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    Andrew Yoon posted a new article, Alice: Madness Returns review.

    Madness Returns doesn't stray far from its predecessor, beckoning Alice and the player to return to not only the world of Wonderland, but to the era of 32-bit gaming as well.
    Jul 30, 2011 8:00am PDT
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    Andrew Yoon posted a new article, Alice: Madness Returns review.

    Madness Returns doesn't stray far from its predecessor, beckoning Alice and the player to return to not only the world of Wonderland, but to the era of 32-bit gaming as well. : ShacknewsThis person is cool!

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      the era of 32 bit gaming... so like, crysis? : GloriousCowThis person is cool!
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        Yes. He means Crysis exactly! He very clearly means the specific release of Alice (2000) and how the i... : XAVdeMATOS
        • Crysis 2 also had a 32-bit executable! And Torchlight. Hmm, come to think of it there are quite a few. : enyakk
        • Well, the idea of a "32 bit era" in gaming is a console thing, and the original Alice was a PC game. It'... : Johnny LawThis person is cool!
        • 6 years ago every PC game was 32 bit. Now only 98% of them are! : GloriousCowThis person is cool!
        • Pretty much every game is still released in 32 bit; so it's a dumb thing to name an era after! : OverloadUT
        • Still doesn't make sense. : HalenThis person is cool!
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      Didn't this come out like a month ago? When does your Doom 3 review drop? : ashkieThis person is cool!
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        Clearly you jumped in to bitch without reading the last part of the review: [Ed's note: It's easy to l... : XAVdeMATOS
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          Frontpager? Ok, I don't think that means what you think it means. I did read the whole thing and it w... : ashkieThis person is cool!
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            Oh, I know what that means and you're certainly acting like a frontpager. Also, "let you know if" -- t... : XAVdeMATOS
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              are there any shacknews editors that don't hate us? : GloriousCowThis person is cool!
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                Do any of the other editors actually spend time commenting? : XAVdeMATOS
                • Alice does from time to time, but she does bitter scorn with more style : GloriousCowThis person is cool!
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                  it really doesn't buy you any credibility or good will to be mean. you can refute points without low blow... : dahanese
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                    why, he's being as real as anyone else here? someone made a shitty ass comment about a late review - it ... : kainen1
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                      there's a huge difference between my posts here and his: he's an employee of this company. i can draw a c... : dahanese
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                        you aren't in a position to critique how he interacts with the shack in the forum. he isn't a community ... : kainen1
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                          it's not about his title - it's that he's a public facing person who represents the company. as such, he ... : dahanese
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                            I've seen his posts and they are pretty much all the time dahanese. I'm confused, why are you taking the... : kainen1
                            • if you read my replies in this thread you'll understand - particularly my last few down below! all is... : dahanese
                        • I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter. People are far to quick to judge others actions. : Pneum0This person is cool!
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                    My credibility is in the work I produce. I'm here now commenting on someone's quick reaction and crappy c... : XAVdeMATOS
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                      when i loaded up this thread to check out the DNF thread i saw your comment and i thought it was off-putt... : dahanese
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                        be honest though I bet you wish you could insult people at work too : GloriousCowThis person is cool!
                        • some people frustrate the hell out of me, yes. running community and customer service yields some nasty s... : dahanese
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                        It was obviously a joke. He's been posting in the typical Chatty-Asshole mindset for a while now and it's... : Crabs Jarrard
                        • This was my intention but I think it was blown out of proportion. We do a lot of stuff for the communi... : XAVdeMATOS
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                    Could not have said it better myself. Shack is so much different since Steve left and no not in a snug... : mcpstoner
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                      i dunno, the game did come out a month and a half ago -- way longer than anybody will have cared about th... : electrolyThis person is cool!
                      • oops. supposed to be a reply to Crabs because i can't chatty : electrolyThis person is cool!
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                  Remo dealt with stupid comments with finesse and hilarity that has yet to be matched. : skankcore
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                    and in the end even he couldn't put up with us :( : GloriousCowThis person is cool!
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                      :( Remo was a large reason why I became a fulltime shacker and lurked no more. He was a member of the com... : zakazi
                      • (I also fear that Remo's day might be the absolute high point of the Shack - especially the post quake sh... : zakazi
                  • Yes ,but he's known to love Far Cry 2. He's a loony. : shirif
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                  personally i think the editors being snarky is great, i just thought calling ashkie a frontpager seemed l... : electrolyThis person is cool!
                  • Anyone who makes a dipshit comment on a front-page article deserves every put-down they get. : Crabs Jarrard
                • What, amongst these filthy BACKPAGERS? : Alice O'Connor
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              http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9646/everybodycalmthedowne.jpg : DewFuel
              • hahaha : shirif
              • hahahah this is great : NitriumThis person is cool!
          • holy shit! ashkie! where the fuck have you been??? sorry xav, this mofo pre dates you probably. : -=kodiak=-This person is cool!
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          Did he seriously call Ashkie a frontpager? : LiquidThis person is cool!
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            Technically I'm saying he's quick to bitch like one. : XAVdeMATOS
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              The sole purpose of a game review, or a review on anything in general is to help people on the fence with... : ashkieThis person is cool!
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                I know the general thought behind a review is that the writer is acting like a buying guide, but that's n... : XAVdeMATOS
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                  expecting more from us was your first mistake! we're a bunch of lowbrow, drooling hyenas that get off on : GloriousCowThis person is cool!
                  • I knew I should have read the manual! : XAVdeMATOS
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                  "So, the idea of "most" people know that they should or shouldn't buy them makes no sense to me when "mos... : ashkieThis person is cool!
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                    We actually do. http://www.shacknews.com/tag/review : XAVdeMATOS
                    • And where is the link to access this? : ashkieThis person is cool!
          • Seriously ? When did Frontpager become this community's "N-Word" Thats our word, how dare you use it!!... : Disarray
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          It's pretty fucking unprofessional to use "frontpager" as a derogatory term. It's like having "readers of... : OverloadUT
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            this thread is gonna get ugly :( : GloriousCowThis person is cool!
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              Agreed. Mods feel free to nuke my parent post. : ashkieThis person is cool!
              • I think apart from my own kneejerk reaction in calling you a frontpager, this thread is fine. It's a good... : XAVdeMATOS
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            Pride in the content? Absolutely. I think we're doing some very great stuff (bias). Pride in readers? I'm... : XAVdeMATOS
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              it's not about being a "father" - it's about being professional and having a level of respect for those w... : dahanese
              • and that respect is a one way street ? : Disarray
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              You're not using a term that insults hardcore shackers. You're using a term that insults those that DO re : OverloadUT
              • Thank you for posting this. He did this same thing about a week ago (called someone a "front pager") a... : bouxdag
          • We're all frontpagers now technically. : Sailor of Fortune
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          it's fairly embarrassing for an employee of this website to condescend to and insult visitors here, but i... : dahanese
          • Yea, I'm kind of poleaxed by his replies in this thread. : EbuThis person is cool!
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            Yes. I'm utterly humiliated. : XAVdeMATOS
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              just ignore the tag team UT/dahnese "internet morality when it's convenient" tag team. : kainen1
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                we're not really a team. we work together, but i wasn't drawn to this thread because of him. and this isn... : dahanese
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                  As stated above, I defended our position against one person and you seem to be projecting that to all use... : XAVdeMATOS
                  • well, to that end, i apologize for jumping in and adding to this derailed subthread - and thank you for y... : dahanese
                  • Literally the only thing that put me off here was your use of the "frontpager" term, so I appreciate your : OverloadUT
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                    My only lingering memory of you is that you repeatedly whine and berate users in your own article threads... : pleasedpig
                    • *your :D : pleasedpig
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                  whether or not you design it or not, there's a certain level of fatigue seeing you two in lockstep in mos... : kainen1
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                    i don't scan threads to check if Overload is in them and i'm sure he doesn't either. i also think it's si... : dahanese
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                      nor I you, so stop responding. : kainen1
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                        ^great example of getting the last word in : MamiyaOtaru
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                          ty, see i continue. LAST WORD : kainen1
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                            the correct way is a simple "lol" lol : InfoBiterThis person is cool!
                            • lulz is far more juvenile. : dahanese
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                      I imagine you looking over the cubicle walls at each other, winking, then both sprinting toward the suppl... : GloriousCowThis person is cool!
                      • thank god we don't have cubicles (but the downside is i can see him as he sits over in the other corner o... : dahanese
                      • I'm bringing in matching capes on Monday : OverloadUT
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                    Hey man I was an asshole on this website before I started working for dahanese, give me some credit here : OverloadUT
                    • Lol, it's tough when she always jumps in and kicks me in the teeth while I have you in a headlock. : Crabs Jarrard
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                haha I'm glad someone else notices this. (but I still agree with them here) : mwasher
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                  shut it frontpager : kainen1
                  • I am something special. : mwasher
                • Hah, you guys are definitely not the only ones who notice it (although I do like both of them on their ow... : The Grolar Bear
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            I like sassy Xav! It can get super depressing reading all the mostly pointless negativity around here, gl... : Dave-A
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              I don't think wanting Shacknews to actually have relevant content is pointless negativity. : ashkieThis person is cool!
              • It's relevant to me. : Dave-A
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                It's a fucking videogame. It's relevant. I'd hate to think I had to choose whether to buy a game based on... : Crabs Jarrard
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                  I don't mean relevant as in jiving content, I mean relevant as in useful information for its readers, and... : ashkieThis person is cool!
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                    That's a fairly poor analogy. Games typically don't disappear from the shelves as fast as first-run movie... : Crabs Jarrard
                    • I take issue with it simply because I want the Shack to have pertinent interesting timely content and a 6... : ashkieThis person is cool!
              • I really don't like the direction the Shack has been taking. : EbuThis person is cool!
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        I don't believe any review that doesn't come out within 5 minutes of a game release. : danws6
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          ^ This. Clearly. : XAVdeMATOS
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            Yes, because that is clearly what ashkie was getting at. : EbuThis person is cool!
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              http://www.shacknews.com/chatty?id=26403928#itemanchor_26403928 Sure is. : ArcKnight
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                Actually no. But usually within a week of its release is more timely and useful to those on the fence abo... : ashkieThis person is cool!
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                  So you never consider buying games more than 6 days old? : Crabs Jarrard
                  • Not when I've already read 5 other reviews about the game 6 weeks ago that showed it wouldn't interest me... : ashkieThis person is cool!
      • damn dude, I thought you were better than this, hahahaha : Home Nugget
      • I'm more likely to read a review after I play a game than before a purchase. : RuffasBluetain
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      With a small staff and the majority of us focusing on E3, which is when review code for a lot of games we... : XAVdeMATOS
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        xav, when can we expect to see a review of deus ex:hr? : jujubeads
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          We should be getting it in time to have it on embargo day. I specifically requested a PC version, as i... : XAVdeMATOS
          • thanks for the heads up. i just read that oxm gave it 10/10 0_o : jujubeads
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      I still want to play it. I really enjoyed the first one. I guess it's one of those wait for a steam sale ... : danws6
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        I really loved it, and if you liked the first game I would recommend just going out and getting it. : InfoBiterThis person is cool!
        • I have a bunch of other games I bought on the last steam sales that I need to get through first. : danws6
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      Respectfully Disagree. "the era of 32-bit gaming" What? Because it's a plat former? Or because you don'... : InfoBiterThis person is cool!
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        I agree that it's simply a "game". The first one sucked me into the world. This one constantly reminded m... : sneakyalmond
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          Perhaps my memory of the first is fuzzy but I remember it being just as linear. : InfoBiterThis person is cool!
          • It was linear, but not as obviously linear as this one. There were nooks and crannies that were there for... : sneakyalmond
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      What a shitty review. The game is awesome. "hasn't grown up" wtf? Compared to MARIO?! /sigh : g0nkThis person is cool!
      • Grown up in terms of gameplay. Don't over react, it's an opinion. : Pneum0This person is cool!
    • Nice review, I really like this style of review writing. : Pneum0This person is cool!
    • This thread is gayer than that one kodiak talked about fucking a black guy. : AgentPotheadThis person is cool!
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      I grabbed this for my girlfriend to play, but have been having a blast playing it myself. My only gripe i... : thecrayThis person is cool!
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        Just abuse your dodge / teleport ability and that will never be an issue. : InfoBiterThis person is cool!
        • yeah, that's what I've been doing since locking on is basically an invitation to get destroyed by unseen ... : thecrayThis person is cool!
    • This entire thread is a ridiculous mess. : Milleh
    • Somebody get Ja Rule on here I wanna know what he thinks of this!!! you ppl got too much of nothing to... : Xulu
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      This game is based on a cartoon that was a real-time experiment or creation of the MK-ULTRA project. T... : RuskiSnajper
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        At one point I began having doubts about all this, wondering whether I was nuts to think that I was seein... : RuskiSnajper
        • ...this is a quote btw, not me. : RuskiSnajper
        • http://boards.ign.com/teh_vestibule/b5296/185769826/p1/?1 lol Btw i just found this like today, i ... : RuskiSnajper