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    Never never have Andy back again please. I've listened to Garnett Lee's podcasts since he started doing 1UP Yours and I've never listened to a more annoying podcast in my life. I felt like you grabbed "annoying Internet troll" from Gamefaqs and set him loose with a microphone. Please never do that again. Some highlights of why it was so painful for me.

    #1 - He didn't listen during the discussion of Call of Duty. The point was trying to be made that Call of Duty probably can't sustain by catering to the small percentage of people who prestige the MP multiple times and that there has to be some barrier of entry that allows them to have an enjoyable experience. Period. End of story. Even if that solution is a "pro" tier (I think this already exists in "hardcore" mode) there should be some way for gamers with jobs and a spouse and kids to play a game with people on the same level as them without getting slaughtered.

    The answer isn't to tell those gamers to suck it and get better. The answer is to create modes, matchmaking and other ways for someone to enjoy the gameplay on their level. Making the game accessible is nothing but good for the "hardcore" COD player. It means more copies sold and more money available to put into the next yearly version of that game. I don't get why he couldn't see that.

    #2 - Nintendo. I agree that Nintendo isn't for many of us any longer. I think you can still have fun with Mario Galaxy, Pikmin, Fire Emblem, Kirby, etc. still, though. Andy acted as if anyone who enjoyed those games hadn't grown up yet. That's the kind of thing, frankly, that someone who hasn't grown up yet would say. It's possible to enjoy games with cartoony graphics at any age. You just may be in the mood for them less often than you would be for a shooter. Nothing wrong with that. But to completely throw away an entire company and whole genres because it isn't "hardcore" enough for you seems silly.

    Pikmin is a hardcore game. Advance Wars and Fire Emblem are hardcore games. They're difficult.

    Andy, pick up a used Gameboy Advance and a copy of Super Mario Bros. 3. You should still enjoy it. It's an objectively fun game that adults played when it came out. This idea that you've "moved on" smacks of typically "l33t gamer" nonsense.

    Very very depressing podcast. Just when you have some hope for the future... I hope he doesn't represent very many folks his age.
    Jul 16, 2011 6:46pm PDT
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    Never never have Andy back again please. I've listened to Garnett Lee's podcasts since he started doing 1... : TrekCycling

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    • Oh, and... #3 - His comment about how the most important thing to him is his gamercard, his gamerscore... : TrekCycling
    • Yeah, I'd drop the podcast if it was like that every week. Andy is the only guest so far that I've inten... : RidleySaria
    • Uh, I don't know if you've realized this, from CoD's sales numbers have been doing pretty ok catering to ... : MHSilver
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      Yeah, I usually don't like to complain about guests, but he was annoying. The Nintendo discussion could h... : BaileyAU
      • Trachtenberg* : BaileyAU
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      Agreed. I don't like to be the guy that complains about guests but like you said he had internet troll... : Demoskinos
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        I think you missed the point of his argument, but to be fair, he wasn't particularly articulate about it.... : MHSilver
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          and underlying shooter mechanics haven't really changed since DOOM but COD get a pass : Runnermatt
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            Shooter mechanics have definitely changed since DOOM. DOOM and CoD may share a twitch pace, but DOOM m... : MHSilver
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              point proven. To a fan shooters have changed. Its the nuances. To a fan, Mario has changed. It's ... : Runnermatt
              • Shooters have changed. I don't think CoD has changed much at all since it's reboot as Modern Warfare. ... : MHSilver
          • Can we say that games much like books (mankind only tells 7 different stories) are all simply based on 6... : Mysssss
        • It would have been nice if you could have handed Andy a script, Silver. You articulated his points far be... : goingcommando117
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        I've followed Garnett Lee for a long time, and I've only ever hated two guests he's had on. This Andy guy... : Velveteenager
        • Sharkey is fucking awesome. :D : MHSilver
    • I didn't get his whining about COD media coverage. I think any hardcore fan of anything feels "the media"... : Runnermatt
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      i agree wholeheartedly. hpw can you bash nintendo for "making the same game over and over" and in the sa... : WiiAmputee
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        CoD has definitely been recycling the same forumla. It's where the building sentiment against the game is... : MHSilver
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          Which formulas? : RidleySaria
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            When Silver says 'formula' he means IP, not gameplay. Hence his perspective. : HockeyJohnston
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              To a point. But when I can play any Zelda game and predict exactly what items I'm going to find, and i... : MHSilver
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                Sorry, I had a feeling you wouldn't be able to name much beyond Zelda. : RidleySaria
                • It's the most obnoxious abuser for sure. But the fact is that Mario hasn't evolved a great deal since ... : MHSilver
              • I do feel that Zelda has grown a bit stale, but Mario is where Nintendo really gets it right. From one si... : OldManRendo
            • I'm going to give MHSilver a little credit and assume he wasn't actually talking about IPs. Nintendo has ... : RidleySaria
    • I agree with his statement of if your not enjoying CoD cause you die all the time it's your fault. If you... : Mysssss
    • Yea he was the most annoying guy to listen to. Who the hell was he anyway? All I heard was a COD fanboy t... : jonyblayze
    • "Andy acted as if anyone who enjoyed those games hadn't grown up yet. That's the kind of thing, frankly, ... : CampKusoge
    • I felt that Andy made some interesting opinions known. Unfortunately I don't think he argued them well. ... : ImprobableJ