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  It was probably piracy... : MuteMode
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    nah, it was the upside down logo on some promo stuff that confused people. : retardhumper
    • I was afraid the Redner Group was going to rape my cat if I didn't like the game so I didn't buy it. He s... : uglysad
  • I lol'd. : jtthe2nd
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  It had nothing to do with the quality of the game. There was a concentrated effort by the gaming communit... : Crabs Jarrard
  • marketing team might have helped : umegastar
  • lol : pancake humper
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    I'm sure this sounds tinfoilhat-ish, but reviewers with an axe to grind handing out 3/10 scores to look c... : EricZBA
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      What axe were they grinding? Did DNF existing slight them personally somehow? : Haxim
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        Don't try and argue with the DNF defense squad. Obviously anyone who didn't like it is full of shit. : justwr!ght
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          I can see how some people could get the impression reviewers were handling out 3/10s to look cool, it was... : Haxim
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            Maybe axe to grind wasn't the right phrase to use. Maybe some reviewers felt that it deserved failure sin... : EricZBA
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              I think some of the reviews were just "hanging with the traffic". Take for example how PC Gamer gave t... : Schnapple
              • I think it's easy to dismiss PC Gamer's reviews because they are known for highly inflated scores. : datoo
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        In an industry where a 5/10 usually means the game will randomly segfault on you multiple times a minute,... : walker270
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          There was nothing good about DNF. : justwr!ght
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            Was it playable, from a technical standpoint, on any platform? That's usually enough to get a 7/10 or be... : walker270
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              Why does it deserve a 7 just for being playable? It's a bad game. : justwr!ght
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                ... because that's how the 10-point review scale is implemented? Unplayable games get less-than 6. Pl... : walker270
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                  If that's the rating scale everyone uses than I am glad I don't buy games based on it . : danws6
                  • Yeah, that's why I don't. At best I'll go by word-of-mouth, or see how the game falls wrt a score of 6... : walker270
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                I think he's saying that the low scores are not consistent with how these publications have acted prior t... : Schnapple
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                  But that's just bullshit. Games get low scores all the fucking time. Look at Jeff Gerstmann for example. ... : justwr!ght
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                    that's one rogue guy who reviews games. : Lucy Labia
                    • Rogue? : rodneystubbs
              • It doesn't, but that's how the review system works. : Lucy Labia
            • perhaps it got 6 for being playable minus 3 for being severely offensive to them on every level : MamiyaOtaru
            • Being playable is 7/10? Jesus.... thank god you don't review games. : zombie man
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        Jeff Gerstmann, June 2006 rant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=698llLo1T94 Take that, and every other ... : the archvile
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          I've said this before, but I really don't think that Jeff has any axe to grind with DNF. He sounds genui... : slax0r
          • plus jeff is grumpy about everything they should name him Grumpy Jeff : spiderfill
          • Jeff *loved* Borderlands, hated DNF. : HockeyJohnston
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            It was Jeff: http://www.giantbomb.com/duke-nukem-forever/61-20721/reviews/ Posting that video was w... : pancake humper
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              My mistake. I still don't think he was foaming at the mouth waiting for the game to be released just so ... : slax0r
              • I completely agree. : pancake humper
        • Some people don't like a game you like. Some people hate it. It's not a fucking conspiracy. What you're a : dex.collins
        • You're the Gerstmann of DRM. : Crabs Jarrard
        • If you approach it as "a museum piece," or sorts, then it has failed as a game. : Rice-Rocketeer
    • just like movie reviews? gotta jump on that hate train and be super polarizing. : Downforce
    • the average consumer doesnt view anything outside of ign, gamespot and 1up reviews anyways : rtrson
  • right wing conspiracy http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/images/07-minister.jpg : spiderfill
  • hahahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHA : maulla
  • 0_o : Godhatesfatpeople
  • Lol, DNF doing well would ruin pc and console games. That's a new one. : AlvinKlein
  • ok then : skelom
  • ^^^truther : Hoax
  • If Bin Laden was still alive the game would have done better. But DNF came out too late. : Sailor of Fortune
  • Nice, Crabs. : Dschinghis Khan
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    I love it when you can't tell if someone is trolling or not. : romulan
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      lol, how could anyone not tell? : pyide
      • I was really trying my hardest. : Crabs Jarrard
  • This guy is amazing. : Sgt_Boomstick
  • Hahaha awesome, Crabs. : Nitrium
  • You are an epic troll : MercFox1
  • Forever, forever-ever, forever-ever? : Lawgiver
  • Oh, for fuck sakes. No. : Rice-Rocketeer
  • I have to know how would it succeeding ruin pc/console gaming? : OutlawSundown
  • Very well executed!! : The Grolar Bear
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    The amount of people taking Crabs seriously really makes me D: : MamiyaOtaru
    • Well, I can't speak for the others, but in my defense...there's been a ton of this type of talk going aro... : Rice-Rocketeer
  • This guy is my new favorite shacker : timaste
  • wtf is going on here. lmfao : zombie man
  • You are so funny. : Fred Garvin
  • LEAVE DNF ALOEN! : Ride-My-Rocket
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  This is what happens when you take the better part of a generational gap to develop a game. I just lost ... : Inarion
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    therell probably be 12 years between diablo 2 and diablo 3 : spiderfill
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      but diablo 3 will be a good game : rodneystubbs
      • QED : spiderfill
      • That remains to be seen. We can assume it will be, hope it will be, want it to be, but until we're al... : Ebu
      • OWNED : zombie man
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    This is the DNF I wanted to play: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-BPJajW-Sc If they had finished that... : pyide
    • What 3DRealms has said and done over long years just turned out to be a disappointment. It's probably for... : lonestar3
    • Even the waving U.S. Flag looked better than the one in the Gearbox-finished game. Fucking sad. : jtthe2nd
    • It would have been hilarious if they did and people would say the retro look is bold and exciting. : Sailor of Fortune
    • This is the most bad ass thing I've seen all week D: : Malku
  • This is how long DNF took to come out. When I was in 8th grade, I played Duke3D. When DNF came out, I... : 0mar
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  If you'd have told me 5 years ago that I wasn't going to buy DNF I would have laughed at you. But here I ... : marmite
  • Same. When it resurfaced a few years ago I was excited. Then the shutdown and gearbox thing pretty much ... : danws6
  • just wait a year and it will be on sale for $10 or less : retardhumper
  • Same. Before I played the demo I wasn't overly enthused or hopeful for the game. After playing the demo m... : jtthe2nd
• shocking : justwr!ght
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  Well, bummer. Better luck next time Duke! : baron calamity
  • Sometimes bet on Duke : VivaMachete
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  Whatever, I got to play the game finally and I now have closure. To be 100% honest, unless the game manag... : freakynipples69
  • Yeah, I'm enjoying it, I'm having fun playing the game and exactly as you said, I get to see the game and... : Gwyndion
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  Any news on modding tools for the PC version or some 360 loving to fix those loading times? : ghost in my shell
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    They said no mod tools. : justwr!ght
    • Citation? I know they haven't said there will be mod tools, but I haven't seen where they've stated t... : Schnapple
• The only people who knew about the game were people who know its catastrophic history, and its a $5 game ... : Zero Hoki
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  SHOCKING!!!! : skelom
  • The shocking part is that they were expecting 3 million in sales. : AlvinKlein
• They expect 1.5 million copies to sell? I would be celebrating! : grandmasterlee
• If they charged a reasonable amount I woulda bought it, but full price? Will wait for a good Steam sale. : Zerbyte
• So... Michael Pachter (or his parent company) being a douche? "...analyst firm Wedbush Morgan lowered : the archvile
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  The core problem with DNF is audience. There are two audiences for DNF: 1. Older gamers who were aware... : dfay
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    I think #3 would be older gamers who loved DN3D back in the day and snatched up the game both for nostalg... : Schnapple
    • I fall into group 3 and actually enjoyed the game. It is flawed and not a masterpiece but I just don't ge... : DeschainVox
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  I wonder how many copies it did sell. Also, in lieu of the PC-centric nature of the game, plus the GMG pr... : Schnapple
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    They estimated 3+ million and expect 1.5 million in sales. Which is still really good for that game, I'd ... : pyide
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      Yeah but is that 1.5M by the end of the year? Or 1.5M ever? And how many have they sold as of right now? ... : Schnapple
      • The internet is saying the sales are only half that so far (~700k, with the 360 leading followed by PS3 a... : pyide
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  they'll sell a bunch when steam and the other online stores start doing sales : crypt420
  • Ya, when it takes $15 I will consider it. : Sgt_Boomstick
  • I was hoping to see it around $30 during these steam sales. We'll see. : danws6
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  took crysis months to break sales of 1M. big deal. : badcaps
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    There are a few reasons why the two are different. Crysis was on just one platform, and most people at th... : sigpro
    • Plus it released right next to CoD4 and UT3. Both Epic and Crytek threw a hissy fit that it took them so... : the archvile
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      No way! It was 100% piracy. Ask Crytek. It had nothing to do with the game being platform restricted, b... : badcaps
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        PC gamers, everyone! : walker270
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          http://i.imgur.com/9Cgp5.jpg : badcaps
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            DERP ... You cited "brutally avant garde hardware requirements" and "fuck all for optimization." C... : walker270
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              Oh, and Crysis was more than playable (not to mention better looking than anything else out there) if you : walker270
              • This is truth and anybody who complained about that shit is a fucking moron. Medium ran great on midrange... : RetroRedEyeJr
              • What a bizarre apoplectic little creature you are. You're shadowboxing. : badcaps
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              As opposed to the console gamers who skipped the "respectable individual stage" and went straight for the... : wfalcon
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                Because console gamers aren't really "gamers", right? : ColoradoCNC
                • Ah - you assume I don't play a console. I have an xbox 360, but the quality of players in multi leaves a... : wfalcon
            • Damn son you got us all figured out. : The Grolar Bear
            • Crysis still looks better than DNF and runs better. Comparing DNF to Crysis is not a good idea. : spazzium
      • ^^ knows what's up : Alastayr
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        Make a game that can be maxed out on current hardware: OMG NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF MY SUPERION 983000!!!!... : ColoradoCNC
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          You also can't win by making stupid generalizations that can fit any demographic you want to deride. : dex.collins
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            I recognize your name, so you've been around here for awhile, so you can't deny that both of those types : ColoradoCNC
            • No you're right about that. And there's a group of people who'll bitch about anything just for the sake o... : dex.collins
            • Have you considered that there were two separate reactions to Crysis? Maybe some people really liked that... : SpaecKow
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  Did anyone think that this game was actually going to sell well? : Sgt_Boomstick
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    randy pitchford probably : JohnnyDanger
    • I bet even he had reservations. : Sgt_Boomstick
    • Nah, I think he even said they were bracing for a beating (can't find the source, though). : The Grolar Bear
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  As a long ago Duke 3d fan, the best part of that game was the awesome multiplayer. In all of the reviews ... : djdisco
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    I'm afraid you're wrong. Single player is not crap at all. : at0micgarden
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      he thinks it is, you think it isn't. You are shooting yourself in the foot here if you are trying to sel... : MamiyaOtaru
      • Lol. You didn't see the part where he said he hasn't played it. : at0micgarden
  • Someone else had to buy the game to play with you... I kid I kid : mobab
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  long development, crappy marketing... yeah didn't see this coming : Korban
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    oh, and let's not forget the raving reviews : Korban
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      How about uninspired game design and gameplay? : jtthe2nd
      • i never played it, so i wouldn't know. all i know is that for the 3 reasons i listed, i did not purchase ... : Korban
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  Well, I guess making DNF console friendly really paid dividends huh? 2 weapon limt my ass. Way to underes... : jtthe2nd
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    Console gaming has nothing to do with it. There are plenty of major, successful games on the 360 that ha... : Poor Yurik
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      Broussard disagrees. Just a few random posts on the subject, but there are more: http://www.shacknews.co... : GreatGooglyMoogly
      • wow..he really was blinded by bad design choices. Bad designers can ruin games, case in point, Lair. Al... : deathofrats
  • What a bunch of sour grapes you are. I'm willing to bet the consolitis had nothing to do with this things... : Sgt_Boomstick
  • Or, just maybe, gameplay standards evolved in the years since Duke Nukem 3D's release. That seems much mo... : ColoradoCNC
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  What a waste of money this DNF was... What the hell was 2k thinking, Oh I know GearBox will put it's ove... : TotalRecall
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    So you played it? : Halen
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      Saw this earlier today; knew you wouldn't get an answer. : dognose
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        Somehow I did too :D : Halen
        • I played it and I agree! :) : justwr!ght
    • this is the worst argument i've seen anywhere today. Thanks for filling that quota. : deathofrats
• For a game that has been called vaporware for several years now, selling 1.5 million units still seems qu... : Lukiopimp
• It kind of blows my mind how much money they spent on the advertising campaign. I obviously don't have h... : soggybagel
• I blame gibbie and his bathroom tweets. : cerealSAM2
• For what it's worth, I really enjoyed the single player campaign for Duke Nukem Forever. The story didn't... : Goblin au
• Make a crap game and sell it for full price and you get what you deserve. I'm dissapointed that 1.5millio... : apocreg
• Whaaat. No way... I don't believe it. : zombie man
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  At-least I got a mouse pad. : NukemForever
  • That I paid for. : NukemForever
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  I knew this game was gonna suck as soon as they actually started showing footage. There is no excuse for ... : f4lln
  • ... : Goblin au
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    don't blame the artists/programmers/designers attached to the project, they are innocent and had nothing ... : deathofrats
    • You mean the ones that were playing wow at work? : Frush81
    • You mean the ones that were playing wow at work? : Frush81
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  Did everybody miss the part where this is all just analyst speculation? : jason bergman
  • "Initial estimates predicted sales of 3 million; the company now expects half that." I assume 'the com... : Bull
  • it looks like it. analysts. what a bunch of overrated idiots. : fw_rams