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    Steve Watts posted a new article, Duke Nukem Forever review.

    Duke Nukem Forever has released at long last, and it's more of a whimper than a bang. The game shows its age and fails to live up to its own legacy.
    Jun 14, 2011 6:00am PDT
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    Steve Watts posted a new article, Duke Nukem Forever review.

    Duke Nukem Forever has released at long last, and it's more of a whimper than a bang. The game shows its age and fails to live up to its own legacy. : ShacknewsThis person is cool!

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    • I respectfully disagree that the driving or the combat was, or became, boring. Game, like all, has its f... : =]Milo[=
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      The only saving grace of this game is it's out of the way and if Gearbox wants to make a proper return to... : mancideThis person is cool!
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        I don't think that will happen unless this sells extremely well by some stroke of luck. : ShadowdaneThis person is cool!
        • Ya they paid millions for a IP and are going to let it rot. Always bet on this guy right here, finger on... : jaxpunkThis person is cool!
      • Agreed. I'm staying far away from DNF, but will be interested to see what they come up with next for the... : atom519This person is cool!
      • An open-world Duke Nukem game would be really cool. : Tech T
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      Yowtch. And from the bastion of Duke fandom too... : donjuancarlos
      • The Front Page of the Shack was never the bastion of Duke fanbois. You must journey deeper into the colo... : dedgecko
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      Not trying to be rude, but I would have preferred for Xav to do the review for various reasons. He seems ... : bouxdag
      • They should have Xav review the PC version (where it's really suppoesed to be played). I have a PC I bui... : ThomWThis person is cool!
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        I don't understand, why does that matter at all? : atom519This person is cool!
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          Because Xav might've agreed with him. hooray for validation : DeathloveThis person is cool!
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            Actually no, but nice assumption. Xav always has the PC gamer view on things. So does the vast majori... : bouxdag
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              So does the vast majority of the shack community This was true at one point, but not so much any more. : atom519This person is cool!
              • Well, I don't post here much because of all the elitist PC b.s. They're certainly the most vocal on this ... : bouxdag
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      This review is just fucking depressing and idiotic. Everyone who was trying to see DNF as the greatest FP... : LukiopimpThis person is cool!
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        And what sort of review score do you think a "decent final wrap up of a mess" deserves? Also, he did play... : ZekThis person is cool!
        • I'd give it 8.74 / 10 steel balls. : LukiopimpThis person is cool!
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      The DNF review for Shacknews should have been done by Dognose and should have just been two words. : Durajim
      • Durajim speaks what the masses are thinking. : sarcaz
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      I'll probably wait for the $4.99 Steam Holiday Sale price and play it in one sitting. : g0nkThis person is cool!
      • This is what I'm waiting for, I doubt at this rate we will have to wait for a holiday sale to get this ga... : ShXIII
      • I'm just glad I came to my senses and canceled my $100 Xbox 360 Collector's Edition and got it for $37 on... : ThomWThis person is cool!
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        Yep, it'll be part of my 2012 Summer of mediocrity. I'll also be playing Homefront then. : MeestaNob
        • Haha, funny because it's true. Although I wasted my 60 on Homefront : ShXIII
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      "This aging series, like its hero, has failed to keep up with the times." I don't believe Duke was tryi... : sarcaz
      • only it didn't even do that properly, what with recharging health and two weapons at a time. The problem... : deathofratsThis person is cool!
      • It isn't really a throwback to what FPS's once were... it straight up IS an example of what FPS once were... : GwyndionThis person is cool!
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      Not a very well done review. Over a decade later, we're merely given our old toys back. While there's so : HalenThis person is cool!
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        Oh, and it's kind of odd to me that they reviewed the 360 version--this is Shacknews ffs. : HalenThis person is cool!
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          Yea, poorly written overall. Kind of odd they would review, solely, on console for this title. : rmjackson
          • Why? It's clear as day that DNF was built for consoles and suffered somewhat for it. A review of the cons... : jtthe2nd
      • Yeh, I don't understand why modern war shooters are being mentioned at all in reviews across the board. D... : sarcaz
    • And yet the majority of people bashed 2K Games when they told 3DR to take a hike. Can you imagine being t... : ShXIII
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      Why on earth was this reviewed on the 360? this is a PC game first and foremost and most reviews reflect ... : thewindcriesmary
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        Really? The demo I played smelled like a console game : avatar_58
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          mine didn't smell like anything :( : ass-street
          • It's scratch and sniff : ModulusThis person is cool!
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          The game was definitely designed with consoles in mind, but 3DR developed the PC version more or less in ... : pyideThis person is cool!
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            I don't believe that one bit personally. The FOV, the "DO THIS! HIT 'E"" nonsense, the driving, the weapo... : avatar_58
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              Read the first sentence again. : pyideThis person is cool!
              • Also, remember the size of the team that was actually working on the game before it was sold to Gearbox, ... : pyideThis person is cool!
              • And because the project was only limping along prior to that, it makes sense that they went with a single... : pyideThis person is cool!
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              You talk as if PC never had weapon limits. Hell, take Wolfenstein 3D. 4 weapons. It's really two. ... : ZuljinRaynor
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                You do realize this is Duke Nukem we are talking about right? Regardless of what other game did what Duke... : ShXIII
                • Yeah, WTF happened to Duke, can apperantly bench press 600 lbs but can only carry 2 weapons and run for 8... : FpsnutThis person is cool!
              • It's okay for DNF to do something folks, because we can pick and choose a past game to compare it to! ... : avatar_58
              • You're comparing one of the first FPSes with one of the most recent. Really ZZ Top? : EbuThis person is cool!
              • Wolf3D had four weapons period. DNF has fifteen. : SchnappleThis person is cool!
        • nah, he's right when playing on the xbox I can feel that it's primarily been designed with the PC in mind... : BigTThis person is cool!
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          No it didn't, avatar. And even then, since you shit on the game so much, why did you buy it on Steam? : ZuljinRaynor
          • Because it's DNF and as I stated many time to your deaf ears - I'm playing it regardless. Nice to see... : avatar_58
      • because unfortunately that's where most of the user base is for the front page of this website. : g0nkThis person is cool!
      • "The review for Duke Nukem Forever is based on the Xbox 360 version of the game, provided by 2K Games" : kaankasim
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        Though PC is my obvious preference for multiplatform reviews, we were only provided advanced access to th... : XAVdeMATOS
        • Xav, please do the PC review. We'll happily wait. : harveymcmaster
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          Horse shit. The Shack always is late to the party with their reviews. Why not just do it proper. : dedgecko
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            We're late to the party when it makes sense. Like Brink where the core of the game is online or The Witch... : XAVdeMATOS
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              Fair enough. Just seems that it would make sense to review the PC version considering the fan base here : dedgecko
              • Tinfoil hat alert. Our job isn't to make the game rent or sell better. : XAVdeMATOS
        • Distributing the console version of a game to review is, to me, asking for trouble. So to some extent, th... : SchnappleThis person is cool!
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          I'll be waiting for your PC review. Yours, and not anybody else's. : badcaps
          • I'll save you the time: same game, better textures and loading times. : HockeyJohnston
        • You have a UK staffer, you could have used her as some sort of games mule to play the PC version early :p : BeadyThis person is cool!
        • Xav you don't have to give explanations to the trolls, its the same effing game on all platforms. : X-GOUKIThis person is cool!
      • Its the industry standard for multiplatform releases, unless the site specifically reviews PC games separ... : BlackCat9This person is cool!
      • Publishers don't provide early PC review copies of multiplatform games. They just don't. The risk of pira... : ruddsThis person is cool!
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      Reviews across the board (the ones I've read, that is, at destructoid, eurogamer, and shacknews) have pan... : fuellThis person is cool!
      • perhaps not, but I sure had fun for several hours between loading screeens that is last night. can't wai : BigTThis person is cool!
      • Basically this. Nostalgia seems to be the only thing holding this game up, and that wears off quickly. :( : MercFox1
    • Your review is even more sub-par than the game I agree on some parts and I don't find DNF good but the wa... : dfz0r
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      Here's my review of this review Blow It out your ass : NukemForever
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        Basically this. I've only been this embarrassed for the shack once before: when that whole 'The Demoman'... : badcaps
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          what demoman thing : bolneze
          • http://www.shacknews.com/article/58026/the-demoman-wanted-weapons-of That... thing. : badcaps
        • People who are critical and candid about games are mean and wrong. : Bensam123
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      I think today's CAD says it all http://v.cdn.cad-comic.com/comics/cad-20110613-2a6e0.png : insnprsn
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        obligatory http://chattypics.com/files/84rm1nji_h0xi28gj6k.png : nem00
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          I don't get it. Help me. : millakazuya
          • Cad is an abortion, hated on the shack, google ctrl alt del abortion : kaddar0
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        Oh god I actually smiled : MamiyaOtaru
        • Burn the witch! : rickThis person is cool!
        • You should feel bad : DewFuel
        • Occasionally even CAD gets it right. : carbontree
      • wait wait wait... ACTUAL FACIAL EXPRESSION IN A CAD STRIP??? : GloriousCowThis person is cool!
      • In response to the CAD link... I did feel bad about linking it but it did seem fitting. In my defense, I... : insnprsn
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      OUTRAGE! : dantasticThis person is cool!
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        THEY JUST DON'T GET IT : gmdThis person is cool!
        • Its duke, duh! : D45hizThis person is cool!
    • Not surprised. I preordered on Amazon, played the demo, and was pretty disappointed. It reeks of "2006 ... : FreonThis person is cool!
    • You mean DNF isn't that great? I am shocked at this development. : jingletard
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      Lots of things come to mind when I read all the reviews lately. The reviewers are kind of shackpiling, j... : boarder2This person is cool!
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        I don't think there's room for many clones of Duke but Duke Forever itself definitely does have a place i... : abrasionThis person is cool!
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          Sure, maybe there's a nostalgic place for people who liked it way back when. People who are new to the f... : boarder2This person is cool!
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            It wasn't made for those people. : abrasionThis person is cool!
            • Then the game is going to fail because the market of nostalgic people is not large enough to support a ga... : Evil Benius
            • This game is similar in a way to the new Rambo movie - it's a throwback to an old era done well. Maybe ... : abrasionThis person is cool!
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              I am still not sure who the game was made for. : D45hizThis person is cool!
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                If you have to ask, you aren't one of them. : Dschinghis Khan
                • Thank god, because the game is trash. : D45hizThis person is cool!
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              Except that's the exact problem. Here we are, over a decade later, and Gearbox is marketing it to the wo... : boarder2This person is cool!
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                I think you're seeing things which aren't even there. Even without nostalgia, it's fun and DOES surprisi... : abrasionThis person is cool!
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                  I guess I'm not being clear. My beef is not with the fact that DNF exists. I think it's great that it's... : boarder2This person is cool!
                  • Given that the marketing efforts have been repeatedly criticized and at one of the videos centered around : SchnappleThis person is cool!
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                    That's pretty much marketing's job. Even if you have a shit game (not saying DNF is), you don't go out... : bouxdag
                    • Yep. Marketing is all about selling, period. What are they going to do, spend money on ads and knock thei... : rarshowThis person is cool!
              • Really? Because it felt to me that they were marketing it as a Duke game, which is just simply to be obn... : HalenThis person is cool!
        • You're being awfully lenient Abrasion. This extreme leniency is not good for the kid! : enyakk
      • I can't say anything to your points about the quality of this Duke game, because I haven't played it and : thetangentThis person is cool!
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      why should i even bother reading reviews when games like black ops take number one on all charts. deeply ... : svetoy
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        Being unoriginal doesn't make it not a great game. Quality is quality. : ZekThis person is cool!
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          dukes originality far outweights the borefest that is the same call of duty campaign every year. : svetoy
          • Whatever parts of it are original don't outweigh how crappy a game it is. : ZekThis person is cool!
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        I agree wholeheartedly with this man. At least for me I find reviewers very rarely match up with my tast... : nukewinterThis person is cool!
        • I don't know about the rest but I expected more of a Duke-style than a Halo-style game. : rivalbo
      • Black Ops only has an 87 metacritic. Portal 2 got a 95. Black Ops was even beaten by LA Noire, which wa... : JMro
      • It sounds like DNFs failings go way beyond originality. The reviews saying it doesn't even hold up to the... : nodeThis person is cool!
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      The giant bomb quicklook is pretty horrifying too. http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-duke-nukem-fore... : ghost in my shellThis person is cool!
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        i wonder if releasing a dated game like this will hurt the franchise and come back to screw gearbox from ... : dantasticThis person is cool!
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          Well the only thing that determines whether a game gets a sequel or not is if it sells well. Right no... : SchnappleThis person is cool!
          • the steam sales numbers are probably not going to have a big say in the eagerness of making a sequel thou... : dantasticThis person is cool!
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        Those load times are pretty shocking : losimagicThis person is cool!
        • looks like the xbox 360 load time is fucking horrendous : NukemForever
        • Pretend it's 1998 again! : Nixx2004
      • I got motion sickness just watching that video. : jtthe2nd
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      Coming out of my self-imposed exile to comment... Disclaimer: I was a huge Duke3D fan. I still have my... : RevRavenThis person is cool!
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        I don't have a problem with it being 'dated' or it's low-brow humor but I still can't see myself paying m... : jtthe2nd
        • The two weapon limit really wasn't as annoying as I expected it to be. With weapon placement/drops in ga... : MacemanInTW
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      During the course of the game, DNF also cracks wise at shooter royalty like Halo, Gears of War, and Porta : Mad Brahmin DiseaseThis person is cool!
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        people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones : dantasticThis person is cool!
        • I have bulletproof glass! : mobab
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      I'm upset they reviewed the 360 version which is known to be a big pile. I'm having a blast playing the P... : manlymanThis person is cool!
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        i dont understand these comments since most (if not all) the criticism comes from gameplay, tone and it f... : dantasticThis person is cool!
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          The only real diffference I've seen shown is lower quality graphics and much longer load times on the 360... : MacemanInTW
          • which aren't really the platform's fault. much better looking games are out there with lower load times.... : dantasticThis person is cool!
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        http://www.shacknews.com/chatty?id=26099444#itemanchor_26099444 : Haxim
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          Not to be that guy, but nothing was stopping the shack from buying the European version on Steam when it ... : ghost in my shellThis person is cool!
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            It's possible they already had a review copy from the publisher at that time. Also if that's the version : Haxim
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              We can't really discuss what the shack overlords are thinking, but I would have hoped that a review site ... : ghost in my shellThis person is cool!
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                Well I don't think they usually do that and yeah, it's a safe bet that when you're handed a copy of the g... : SchnappleThis person is cool!
                • The gaming magazines before the Internet would do this, they would review each console's version especial... : ghost in my shellThis person is cool!
              • SELLOUTS CATERING TO PUBLISHERS : HalenThis person is cool!
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        ON MY 55 INCH PLASMA WOAH BIG SPENDER : gmdThis person is cool!
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          he forgot his "rig" specs to complete the package : dantasticThis person is cool!
          • Well, cut him some slack, he was probably raging too hard from hunching his back while sitting on his mil... : Dschinghis Khan
    • It's not a very good game. I played the first 3 hours of it last night and had 2 crash-to-desktops and f... : grendelThis person is cool!
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      Anyone check in with Dognose yet? I'm afraid he might've hanged himself by now. : VoodooThursday
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        i believe he was enjoying himself immensely with the demo so i dont see why he wouldnt like the final pro... : dantasticThis person is cool!
        • I really like sprinkling a bit of salt on my food once in a while, but I wouldn't want to chug directly f... : VoodooThursday
      • He's too busy having fun playing DNF to hang himself : Ovate
      • I believe he said he wouldnt be able to play til the 18th! : Galadriel07This person is cool!
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      you get a free duke figurine with purchase @ Toys R Us. : uebersoldat
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        Great! My 8 year old would like that when i buy this game for him. Good thinking Toys'RUs! : dookiebot
        • lol yeah wife and I were laughing about that last night. : uebersoldat
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      >reviewing duke nukem forever on a console ohboyherewego.jpg : badcaps
      • http://www.shacknews.com/chatty?id=26099444#itemanchor_26099444 : Haxim
      • you can't do either of those things on shacknews : DrFlammableThis person is cool!
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      Huh, so you reviewed a bad console port of a PC-focused game and it had problems? Shocking. : ColoradoCNC
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        Gearbox gives the most flawed version of a terrible game to critics to review. I wonder who the dumbass ... : kingdeporkThis person is cool!
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          The developer does not distribute the review copies. : XAVdeMATOS
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            Did it come from Dahanese then? : dedgecko
            • It's always the publisher that handles review copies. Someone at 2K in this case, not necessarily (in fa... : Lone SwordsmanThis person is cool!
      • no worries the PC version is not a different game, still full of mediocrity : brewsterdogThis person is cool!
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        Do you think games should be reviewed separately, per platform? I'm genuinely curious what people think a... : Dunwich
        • I think so, that's the point of the review to let me know where best to spend money. It seems like there ... : ghost in my shellThis person is cool!
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          In some cases, yes. When a game is developed for a specific platform and then ported to others, I feel th... : ColoradoCNC
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            Well then blame Gearbox for their stupidity then, not Shack : kill9This person is cool!
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              I agree that it falls to Gearbox to make sure their product is as uniform as possible across platforms. Y... : Dunwich
              • I mean blame Gearbox for making the 360 version available for review, rather than PC : kill9This person is cool!
        • Game Informer used to that back when i had a subscription for them. Don't know if they still do it or not... : Dschinghis Khan
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          What kind of manpower do you think outlets have to dedicate to one game? : XAVdeMATOS
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            I can definitely understand doing a review for all 3 SKUs on games, but it seems like fewer and fewer sit... : ColoradoCNC
            • not doing a review for all 3 SKUS, that is : ColoradoCNC
          • Oh I understand you can't take forever to review every version of every game. I wish there was some way e... : Dunwich
          • Well, I think there should be considerations made for each version when one of the versions might not hav... : pigvomitThis person is cool!
        • Super NES Mortal Kombat v Genesis Mortal Kombat. There can be differneces amongst them. This may be an ex... : SolveChrist
        • No. Reviews are subjective enough anyway that it's pretty easy to infer that your experience may differ o... : Chipwarrior
        • Yes. : Mad Brahmin DiseaseThis person is cool!
        • not unless there are massive differences. In this case, there isn't. : deadfish
        • Yes and IMHO multiple reviewers should be involved. I LOVED Electronic Gaming Monthly's review system. Th... : rarshowThis person is cool!
      • http://www.shacknews.com/chatty?id=26099444#itemanchor_26099444 : Haxim
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        Am I missing something here? The complaints about DNF aren't control based. : avatar_58
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          Well-observed, good sir! The controls worked fine on a 360 pad, and points like texture pop-in and load t... : SporkyReeve
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            You have some nerve showing your face in here Mr Watts. Some nerve indeed. : Haxim
            • Maybe Duke's balls rubbed off on me. ... wait that came out wrong. : SporkyReeve
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        looking good !! http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/duke-nukem-forever : gmdThis person is cool!
        • LOL stop : chuck577This person is cool!
    • So it's kinda like they should have just remastered it. Or have they already done that by releasing it o... : matrixneo42
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      Oop metascore 58 better wait for the bargain bin : yosan
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        X-Men First Class is sitting at 65 on Metacritic. I weep for people who only check things out based on ... : DimmonaThis person is cool!
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          only way to be sure If Gearbox doesnt want the give a demo except when you pre order the game of bough... : yosan
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            the demo is available for everyone now, isn't it? : mikecybThis person is cool!
            • I was not aware of that my bad : yosan
            • where do I find this demo I fail at google : yosan
        • Movie reviews generally are positive above 50. Game reviews cluster around 75+ because, unlike movie revi... : qsylvr
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      i am one of the biggest shacknews fans out there.. but really i am VERY disappointed by this review. i ex... : fw_rams
      • huh? you're weird. : RogerDandyThis person is cool!
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      Our review stands; however, I'll install the PC version now and maybe I'll do some comparisons to it alon... : XAVdeMATOS
      • Agreed Xav : yosan
      • I expect the differences will be pretty minor. Still the same game just a bit more accessable : watcherxpThis person is cool!
      • Sorry Xav! If you don't like DNF you're obviously a terrible journalist. : justwr!ght
      • hmmm sounds like we got a hater here : boring gegtik
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        Xav, you've made peace with the fact that regarding anything notable on the Shack, 5-15% of the audience ... : geedeckThis person is cool!
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          5-15%? LOL : g0nkThis person is cool!
          • I strongly disagree. : shirif
        • You should really know better, it's 95-99% of the audience! : Durajim
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          I disagree with this post! : Orange Pylon
          • You're objetively wrong and should probably not exist!!! : datoo
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        I want you to play it on the PC but with the 360 controller. Anything less is unethical journalism and yo... : Rauol DukeThis person is cool!
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          sega genesis controller : gmdThis person is cool!
          • This is a serious matter and your so called "jokes" are ill timed. : Rauol DukeThis person is cool!
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            You can play Atari games with a Genesis controller. ALso, i almost typed commercial. I was like what t... : Dschinghis Khan
            • Haha. : ShXIII
            • AVGN taught me that. : The Grolar Bear
            • Commodore 64, too, I think : SchnappleThis person is cool!
            • You can also play genesis games with an atari controller, but then you only get 1 button. : sigproThis person is cool!
      • AWSD or arrow keys? : ateam311This person is cool!
      • until then: rockpapershotgun pc review http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/06/13/wot-i-think-duke-nukem-... : HoaxThis person is cool!
      • good. : fw_rams
      • Chorizos y lentejas! : excessusThis person is cool!
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        If the game didnt suck then there wouldnt be so much outrage. your review is fine, 3DR and george are to ... : maullaThis person is cool!
        • there are very good parts in the game. for example the bossfights are awesome. very challenging (in terms... : fw_rams
      • Thank you for humoring us curmudgeons. :) : ColoradoCNC
      • The effort is worth everything regardless of the outcome, Xav. It's much appreciated. : badcaps
      • way to cave to pressure. now they're just gonna walk all over you : dantasticThis person is cool!
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        Besides graphics and obviously controls is this realy going to matter? It's not a different game with dif... : Fred GarvinThis person is cool!
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          You say that as if graphics and controls aren't important in a game where a common criticism in console r... : SchnappleThis person is cool!
          • Must be the Xbox version then, I barely have time to read the actually quite amusing loading screen tips ... : jacobvandy
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            You really think those points would take a 6/10 game and make it 8/10? : Fred GarvinThis person is cool!
            • I was thinking more a 7/10 : SchnappleThis person is cool!
      • If you haven't played yet you might be pleasntly suprised. I really liked the game flaws and all. The... : MacemanInTW
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        You can't give in! You can't give in!!! /Dent : Sailor of Fortune
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          Oh, I won't. A bad game is a bad game. It doesn't matter what platform it's on. : XAVdeMATOS
          • Note: This is a general statement. I have not made it through enough of Duke Nukem Forever to have a defi... : XAVdeMATOS
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      The biggest tragedy is that Gearbox now owns the IP. They are one of the most average developers out the... : 0mar
      • Not really. They are former 3D Realms guys and took in some of the DNF team after shit got blowed up. The... : Crabs Jarrard
      • Going to have to agree here. : atom519This person is cool!
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        yea it would be much better to leave it in the hands of a developer that releases once every 20 years or ... : deadfish
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          It's not a binary decision here. There are many other options besides Gearbox and 3DR. : 0mar
          • I seriously doubt DNF was a highly sought after IP despite what it seems a majority of the shack thinks. ... : deadfish
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            just an FYI deadfish works at gearbox so he is going to have a personal stake in this argument. : sigproThis person is cool!
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              wait, I am getting him mixed up with another fish named shacker. : sigproThis person is cool!
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                yea i was like wtf? : deadfish
                • I had a massive brain fart for about 30 seconds, then I was like no wait deadfish is the guy with all the... : sigproThis person is cool!
              • yeah that would be me, not deadfish : dopefishThis person is cool!
          • I don't think there were many other options considering the legal turmoil surrounding the IP when 3DR clo... : Haxim
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            Which one would you choose? : Marrbe
            • infinity ward : [fry]This person is cool!
            • people can fly, croteam, starbreeze, visceral games : EvilDolemiteThis person is cool!
            • TEAM NINJA : DownforceThis person is cool!
            • Popcap : The Grolar Bear
            • Starbreeze. : Mr. Goodwrench
            • Zynga : deathofratsThis person is cool!
            • ea sports : indosaurosThis person is cool!
          • Humor me, who would you like to have it? : Mad Brahmin DiseaseThis person is cool!
          • And who stepped up? : Fred GarvinThis person is cool!
      • Sounded like Obsidian there! : mobab
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      Lol, so much fanboy hate in this thread. Just because I grew up on Duke Nukem and enjoyed it, doesn't ... : Opticom
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        Oh and fuck the nostalgic, corny, cheesy, wannabe humour. It was not funny then, and it's especially not ... : Opticom
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          Coming from Jeff, is that what they call the pot calling the kettle black? : jaxpunkThis person is cool!
          • no : justwr!ght
      • Looks like you're a hater! : justwr!ght
      • Fanboys will stare at a pile of crap and see gold, there is no changing that in some people. : ShXIII
      • that's the key phrase: "grew up". you succeeded where Duke did not. : VoodooThursday
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        You're calling it a bad game but you haven't played it because you're balking at $60, correct? Are you... : SchnappleThis person is cool!
        • Every one is entitled to their own opinions and some reviews are worth taking into account. Especially w... : doozer667This person is cool!
      • well worth the 35 dollars for the PC version. : Patch-e
      • this. I don't think it's terrible but it's fucking hilarious the way people are bashing everyone who says... : deadfish
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      Shack posts a review and it is getting slammed by people who don't appear to have played the game yet. Wh... : dookiebot
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        Haha. : XAVdeMATOS
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          This is what happens when you do your fucking job, Xav. You should have known better! : Crabs Jarrard
          • I always forget about that part! : XAVdeMATOS
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      Oh look, another console review. GTFO. : abjectblitz
      • Buncha babies in this thread! : braaains
      • Because they have different gameplay for the console version because that seems to be a lot of what he's ... : Fred GarvinThis person is cool!
      • Oh look, someone that acts like a frontpage baby. : XAVdeMATOS
    • The game is pretty terrible. My fanboy lust for D3D is the only thing keeping me playing it. : herradura99This person is cool!
    • DNF: the return of matt hazzard! : X-GOUKIThis person is cool!
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      I may have to buy this purely as a museum piece. I was going to make my own "collector's edition" with a... : the archvileThis person is cool!
      • Give it a month or two, should be on sale cheap. : Topsiderover
    • Holy crap, there are some nasty responses to this review. I think it's fine for the record. It seems to l... : Dan 101
    • In the beginning of the game, you get to pick up a turd from inside a toilet....interesting use of foresh... : jimvolk
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      Why is there so much "EVERY REVIEW IS WRONG....THIS IS THE GOTY....NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABO... : xpogox
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        yea the shack pretty much needs an intervention : theWhiteThis person is cool!
        • Divine or darwin? : mobab
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        This shit works a lot like weather predictions and what people want to accept. When the weathermen pr... : ashkieThis person is cool!
        • i.e if I want to like this game, I'm more willing to believe a good review than a bad review. : ashkieThis person is cool!
    • This game is a steaming pile of shit. : jimvolk
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      I'm looking forward to this weeks Weekend Confirmed. They usually give a pretty honest and sometimes b... : millakazuya
      • I'm really looking forward to see if Mr. 2n1t has anything positive to say about this or if he's willing ... : mattavius
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      After watching giantbombs quicklook and just listening to Jeff's exasperation of playing through it I'm c... : rawrnosaurous
      • I'm glad I watched the quicklook before buying it. It looks like F.E.A.R. 1 at best in a lot of those sh... : melkoreThis person is cool!
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      Giant Bomb review has been posted: http://www.giantbomb.com/duke-nukem-forever/61-20721/reviews/ : millakazuya
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        wow, jeff sounds like he caught the plague at e3. : hirezThis person is cool!
        • I thought it was Brad for about five minutes into the video. : deathofratsThis person is cool!
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        (((if you're the sort of person who followed 3D Realms all the way down and you're feeling like you need ... : g.leeThis person is cool!
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          Were you expecting Shakespeare? The first game had no narrative, no dialog. All it had was quips and a ... : ThresherThis person is cool!
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            but it's not a throw back when they shoe horn in modern elements like regenerating health and two gun lim... : deathofratsThis person is cool!
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              If anything, that's a consolization problem. : ThresherThis person is cool!
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                but hold up, DNF was developed with the PC in mind, according to the man himself GeorgeB. so i mean you ... : deathofratsThis person is cool!
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                  Not rationalizing anything. Just like the game has save points rather than just regular PC style saves, ... : ThresherThis person is cool!
                  • All the important things you mean : mobab
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            Have you tried playing Duke 3D anytime recently? It's still as amazing as it ever was and a blast to play... : Mr. Goodwrench
            • Absolutely. Still love the game. : ThresherThis person is cool!
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            Shakespeare is full of dick jokes though :/ : 60days
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              This is true, but they were well written dick jokes. http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-shakespeare... : ThresherThis person is cool!
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                I think that might be the key - Shakespeare could write idiots, jackanapes and dick-joke-lovers from his ... : 60days
                • Heh, that's the best way of putting it I've seen yet. : ThresherThis person is cool!
      • hahaha "I'm trying to figure out when this game would have had to come out to be ... good." : sparklyThis person is cool!
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      Just played a few hours of it. It's Duke. That's both good and bad. Had this come out a long time ag... : ThresherThis person is cool!
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        that's a bullshit way of looking at it though. HL2 was made to surpass HL1 and it did. You shouldn't excu... : deadfish
        • HL1 had a helluva story. HL2 took it a step further and had a better story and prettier graphics. Duk... : ThresherThis person is cool!
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      HE REVIEWED THE 360 VERSION!!!! WHO IS THIS "XAV" AND WHY DOES HE HATE AMERICA?! : nwillard
      • He mentions in the Quicklook that he also played the PC and PS3 versions and agrees that the PC version i... : ashkieThis person is cool!
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      Where's George? Where's Randy? Where are all the fan boys? All I know is that all haters have come out... : jrbstereo
      • george has been answering questions as recently as yesterday to his credit. Randy is cowardly and won't ... : deathofratsThis person is cool!
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        Remember when RomSteady did a blog entry on piracy and the comments piled on him? And he defended himself... : SchnappleThis person is cool!
        • I've gotten used to the haters. : RomSteady
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        what exactly would you want George to say here? : GloriousCowThis person is cool!
        • That's a good question, actually. And I am not really sure how to answer this.... Does George, Scott,... : jrbstereo
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      Say what you want about Duke Nukem Forever, but it really is the first game to come close to successfully... : impasseThis person is cool!
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        it's the same damn game. Please explain how THE GAME magically gets better with shorter load times and a ... : deadfish
        • What? That's like every shackers main complaint about console games. : PettytheftThis person is cool!
      • gta : synapse19
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        2D franchise into 3D world? What do you mean? : millakazuya
        • +1D : shirif
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        What? Super Mario 64? Zelda64? : pgharaviThis person is cool!
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          Metal Gear, Grand Theft Auto, Ninja Gaiden, there's a ton of'em. : boredguyThis person is cool!
          • Metroid Prime is another huge example! : VorlonesqueThis person is cool!
      • http://i.min.us/i9OPG.jpg : Godhatesfatpeople
      • Wut? I don't even.... : watcherxpThis person is cool!
      • Duke....3D? : ashkieThis person is cool!
      • Even dognose wouldn't have your back on this one, bro. : Crabs Jarrard
      • Did you ever play Metroid Prime : mr.sleepyThis person is cool!
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        Well, he's right, but there aren't a lot of other examples. He means 2D shooters I take it. Duke3D was ... : WWBD??
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          What about RTCW? : Crabs Jarrard
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            You mean the game built on the Quake 3 engine. : PettytheftThis person is cool!
            • I meant it was a good 3D game made from a 2.5D game, since WWBD tried to legitimize the OP's stupid post. : Crabs Jarrard
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        you lost me at successfully bringing a 2D franchise into the 3D world pretty sure you've never played ... : KorbanThis person is cool!
        • Or 1996. : David Craddock
      • I'm glad you enjoyed the game, but as others have said, 2D games have been successfully converted to 3D f... : David Craddock
      • what the hell is going on in this post : DeBurgoThis person is cool!
      • lol no : VegasX
      • the quality of doom3's sound design redeems any shortcomings with the rest of that game. : grifterThis person is cool!
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        he's referring to the fact that the doom / duke3d engine were 2-d.5 not true 3d (ie: quake) : ballystix
        • If that's the case then Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2 wants to have a word with him. : Frank_MackeyThis person is cool!
      • my brain reached an impasse trying to comprehend this load of nonsense. : thecrayThis person is cool!
      • Whatever. You make a few good points but don't kid yourself; Doom 2 wasn't any less 3D in gameplay than D... : Curike
      • er... what : apocreg
    • http://i.imgur.com/SbyLU.gif : burning eye
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      George? I wonder where George is after all these negative reviews and wonder what his thoughts are with a... : GodFatherThis person is cool!
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        oh stop it. i've seen him on here answering questions recently. Randy on the other hand.. : deathofratsThis person is cool!
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          haha...yeah, it's all Randy Pitchford's fault? : jimvolk
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            the terrible xbox port is, absolutely. : deathofratsThis person is cool!
            • i mean im surprised we haven't gotten a 'well the load times are at the discretion of the designers. The... : deathofratsThis person is cool!
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        I'm sure he agrees with a lot of the criticism. That's why he didn't deem the game ready to release. : WWBD??
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          Well there are two facts here. One, I didn't release it, and two, I didn't work on it past mid 09. That... : GeorgeB3DRThis person is cool!
          • you're a good egg if nothing else. no lashing out, just calm rational responses to everything. : ibroknThis person is cool!
          • I enjoy the game, George. It is very fun and I don't feel like my money was poorly spent. : creeping-judasThis person is cool!
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            George, I don't know you and you don't owe me anything. I can't even begin to imagine how you must of fel... : inf3d3l
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              Why don't you roll him around in the dirt a bit more. There was obviously something wrong with the 2001 ... : pigvomitThis person is cool!
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                Just my opinions on the matter and I was quite nice about it considering what I actually felt like postin... : inf3d3l
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                  What do you know about it to criticise people that were there when it was happening?.... what you read on... : apocreg
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                    I clearly know more than you. : inf3d3l
                    • lol! : fw_rams
          • Would you say you had a great deal of influence on what was released though? I can't imagine the game is... : Lucy LabiaThis person is cool!
          • Sounds like someone is washing their hands clean of this 14 year mess. typical : ShXIII
          • I raised my son till he was fifteen but lost custody. His step-father released him into the world at age... : jrbstereo
          • So what you're basically saying is that after 14 years you're a D to a B- game designer...awesome. You s... : javidscool
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      What the hell happen to Duke Nukem Forever game? I heard that game got many bad reviews. Please give me ... : commanderxp90
      • You're responding to a review of it retard : rubicantThis person is cool!
    • I have yet to play it myself, but having watched some extended PC gameplay it seems fun and funny. I'm n... : Lone SwordsmanThis person is cool!
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      I don't quite get why everyone is saying this game represents what FPS games used to be. If anything, it... : ManiacalMoose
      • ^^^ This. I think people are a bit shocked by the misogyny and want to use the "throwback" label for the ... : steauengeglaseThis person is cool!
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        Yep, FPS's today are so borrowing. Easy, lack of control, lack of variety and choice. Give me a janky ... : apocreg
        • boring... not borrowing! But that too i guess... they are all the same :-) : apocreg
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      If video games were actors DNF wouldn't be Johnny Depp or Leo DiCaprio; no, DNF is more like Mickey Rourk... : badcaps
      • well said. : fw_rams
    • I appreciate you raping my childhood. : EmbrionicThis person is cool!
    • I agree almost completely with this review and it's a hallmark of the latest generation of games for roug... : Bensam123
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      I can't help but feel vindicated and justified about when I went on a total rant about this game when it ... : SolidBoss
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        Why aren't you counting the episodes? Episode Two launched in 2007. : XAVdeMATOS
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          He could focus on the Black Mesa mod, that's my new target. Valve is getting up there though, I wants me ... : ShXIII
          • I kinda wish Valve would buy out the Black Mesa guys and finish it off (and put the Valve level of Qualit... : millakazuya
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          nope, those were just renamed expansion packs imo. Hey Xav while I have your attention, why is it that j... : SolidBoss
          • Knowing Valve they are keeping silent to build anticipation because when they do finally reveal ANYTHING ... : ShXIII
          • I think no matter how many times they ask 'When is HL3 coming out?' Doug or whoever will just say with a ... : millakazuya
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      Let's not forget that most of the real bad reviews came from the console ports of the game, according to ... : 8IronBob
      • Then those sites should give separate scores for PC and Console. I personally am having fun with the PC v... : Mech82
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      This review is biased, and somehow I think the guy didn't even finish the game. : davidc02
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        Greatest comment ever. : XAVdeMATOS
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          here XAVdeMATOS, watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th2z0xT-X5s this explains exactly why i disa... : fw_rams
          • This clown even admits he is a Duke Nukem fan boy. So you guys go from one extreme to the other. How is... : jrbstereo
    • I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of bubble gum ! : rainsmatt