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  Well it's true. I played WoW solid through Burning Crusade. When Burning Crusade came out, I lasted wel : pigvomit
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    as much as I loved Frozen Throne, they just seem to be making it easier and easier : Dravenport
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      Frozen Throne. : Metatron85
      • Wrath, Frozen Throne, whatever : Dravenport
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      They upped the difficulty again with Cata. At least it was at launch I don't know what heroic dungeons a... : Crimsonbeak
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        i've only done a couple of heroics, but getting to 85 was stupid easy, getting the 'proper gear' to get i... : Dravenport
        • so you're upset that there wasn't enough grind to get to 85 but to much to get into heroics? : kiddygrinder
      • The Cata heroics were interesting for the first 2-4 weeks, now its just a simple run through like with Wo... : Lukiopimp
    • Frozen Throne : Kaiser
    • Frozen Phone? : GloriousCow
    • Reign of Chaos? : Xanthos
    • Frozen Calzone : NukemForever
    • Broken hoooooooooome : devi| dog
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      Throne of Oblivion : deathofrats
      • Throne of Bolivian : chuck577
    • I stopped after Lord Of Destruction. : DewFuel
  • Yeah Cata didn't really have a lot to do after you hit the heroic gear cap. : Crimsonbeak
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    WOTLK was the low point imo. Lots of trash, everything was AOE pulls, no CC, no thinking. it was boring... : smax
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      I agree it was the low point. My biggest problem with WOTLK was that it gave people an expectation th... : SunnyTelight
      • I dont know about easy, but it should be kinda fast. more than 2 hours for a damn dungeon is dumb. : rtrson
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      WOTLK was fun as a healer. : mace
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        for real. i would've said WOTLK was the HIGH point. at that time, they still understood that mana manag... : electroly
        • And people could drink from my paladin water cannon of healing. : Sarcastro
  • I was a FIEND through Vanilla/TBC. Wrath and cat i played for maybe 2 months total... : Thisispol
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  I just got bored of the same rehashed outfits, bosses and areas.... Burning Crusade was amazing and I thi... : Dark Drakonis
  • I think far fewer people care about that stuff than you imagine. Games just get boring after a while. Eac... : Zek
• I demand that a mount vendor be put in the game so I don't have to form groups to get the cool old mounts... : crypt420
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  So in other words, thanks Activision! : deathofrats
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    Yeah, players leaving has nothing to do with the game being almost 7 years old -_- : Ambient80
    • I do love how the forums are proclaiming WoW is dead because of the ridiculously massive number of people... : walker270
    • Yeah I think that is really it for a lot of people leaving or only trying it for a short period. It's nea... : Chod
  • Unlike every other company Blizzard doesn't care about stemming subscriber churn... : derelict515
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  Of course it's not all sad news, profits are up. Yay pet store. : anbilow
  • meh. go to a rescue : boring gegtik
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  I think 600k is just the start, once TOR comes out they will lose more. Don't worry fanboys your WOW isn'... : saturn96
  • Those 600k were the lynchpin. What will those remaining 11.4 million people do?! Oh the humanity! : walker270
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    Except for all the people resubscribing when 4.2 hits, and for the next expansion that probably hits arou... : SilverSnake
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      No one ever resubscribes. Ever. Except me. I'm on my third or forth go. : walker270
      • I historically have resubscribed for less and less time each expansion. I enjoy them, at least until I ru... : TheNiXXeD
  • Y E S Y O U C A N H A V E M Y S T U F F' D : NukemForever
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    " once comes out they will lose more." never happened. : Ellissd
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      heart nushack never change : Ellissd
      • om nom nom : Ebu
  • "Don't worry fanboys your WOW isn't dead, just fewer players." Fairly antagonistic? : pigvomit
• I get bored once I finish leveling. So I wind up canceling after I max out. : Thresher
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  Churn out more game faster... yeah that's the ticket. Faction and class balance? Nah, those are sociolo... : barcibus
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    I've often wondered how people propose they fix a faction imbalance. They've limited people from creating... : Ambient80
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      Doesn't a simple server transfer already have the problem with server first achievements? What if I am se... : Johnnsen
      • Yes, but at that point it's the players choice to transfer, so more of the "blame", so to speak, falls on... : Ambient80
    • They'd have to balance out things that are different per faction. This is a massive amount of work and t... : barcibus
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    Class balance is constantly being tweaked. Faction population balance is much harder to do, and really... : walker270
    • Class balance is constantly being tweaked in the same imbalanced way it has always been: Tier 1: Rogue... : barcibus
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  It's not that players are churning through new content faster; Cataclysm simply didn't have that much new... : ATimson
  • ding ding ding! : Disarray
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    I believe you may be right. I had a bad feeling about Cataclysm once they announced it would be 80-85, in... : Ambient80
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      Number of levels really has nothing to do with the amount of content. They could have changed the experie... : Evil Benius
      • Yeah, 80-85 was really fast. IIRC, my DK went from 80 to 85 in the span of just a week or so of playing a... : Vincent Grayson
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    A huge portion (I'd guess 90%+) haven't even see all of the current content. : TreMetal
    • They've probably seen Magmaw, Halfus, Four Winds, and Defense System! ... and lost many hundreds of go... : walker270
    • 90% play WoW because of levelling alts and chatting with friends etc, they don't care about raids. : Lukiopimp
  • That is pretty much what happened to me. I mean I loved leveling from 80 to 85. But I got the Loremaster ... : ovrlrd
  • yeah i only leveled one new one and didnt see a lot of the new 1-80 stuff (although what i did see was pr... : bolneze
• I'm in this camp. Seem to have lost interest with WoW, but not really due to lack of content - mainly be : atom519
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  I think WoW was at its best during The Burning Crusade, despite lacking some of the gear/spec balancing a... : Marrbe
  • Other than Hellfire, I agree, the BC zones are pretty amazing. The only LK zones I like are the early one... : Vincent Grayson
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  hijack. did the shack wow guild die? life support still? : xxiv
  • Still running, but yeah, there's maybe 5 or 6 people on at a time. It'll never die completely, because fu... : Vincent Grayson
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  Elitist Opinion How many people have actually exhausted content? All heroic raids and Sinestra on farm? ... : the_burd
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    Burd, after our TBC glory, nothing was the same. : Thisispol
    • This is the truth. Although, we've created something pretty good with Cloudyeyed. A little less raw than ... : the_burd
  • Still have to do t11 raids to get the new Legendary staff. People will still do them for achievements. ... : TreMetal
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    They consumed the "casual" content. At the end of WotLK, everything was casual content. PUGS were cle... : walker270
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      I dunno, at least on Mal'ganis I'm pretty regularly running into people asking for linked achievements fo... : Vincent Grayson
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        Right, but my point was you couldn't get that from the vendor in ~2 days. At the end of WotLK, you could... : walker270
        • Well, the 4.1 stuff makes it pretty trivial (assuming you've got a group enough to do dungeons quickly, o... : Vincent Grayson
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      Everything? WotLK, the expansion where I got to run only two dungeons because I couldn't get a group toge... : SagaciousFoo
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        Try harder or join a better server? I joined not too long before Cataclysm's launch, and was able to p... : walker270
        • err... level 70. I skipped WotLK until ~Aug/Sept of last year. : walker270
      • It's not really fair to compare Cata, which is still on its first tier of raiding, to WotLK in the months... : Vincent Grayson
  • I don't really consider the heroic modes "content," content is seeing and experiencing new shit. 10 m... : ghost in my shell
  • yeah, i really started playing in bc, we actually had a guild that was working their way through the cont... : kiddygrinder
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  I think the biggest downside to me are people. People in this game are absolute assholes. People will be ... : te[R]ror
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    People in this game are absolute assholes. People will be the end of it as well. Fixed it for you. P... : SagaciousFoo
    • Yeah. The CoD players will turn on you just as fast if they feel you aren't "pulling your weight" and get... : Dr_Cube
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    This is why I'm excited about Guild Wars 2. They're addressing this exact type of shit. : Godhatesfatpeople
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      How's that? : JarEme
      • No dedicated tanks or healers I believe. I feel it will lead to trivial content. : the_burd
  • I have no problem running heroics if I don't know a fight. I just let everyone know to go over the boss b... : Pettytheft
  • What sucks the worst is a lack of punishment for random group droppers. I'd like to see tanks who drop im... : Entity
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  Classic servers would be nice, with servers for Vanilla, Burning Crusade, and Lich King. It wouldn't hav... : capt tripps
  • I would totally play a Vanilla WoW server : Xencer
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  So wait, they think putting out more expansions is the better option than accelerating their release of n... : darthv
  • this is activision : Gapyro
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  they made everything so much easier ... and they wonder why ppl go thru content so much faster : Gapyro
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    They didn't, though. This tier of raid content lasted longer than any other, if you exclude any mandator... : walker270
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      I think Gapyro is referring to casuals not raiders. This was my first xpac where I planned to play fully... : Kiyohime
      • They've changed enough of the raiding-stuff to make it easy to casually raid. My guild does 2 hours a ni... : walker270
      • why would you need to grind dailies for months on end? My second 85, a death knight, never did more than... : valael
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    Yeah, the only thing easy about Cataclysm is leveling to 85. Anything past that is pretty rough compared ... : Ambient80
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      The problem Cat has is the huge Chasm between hitting 85, and grinding up to Heroic level gear. It proba... : Discrete
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        Yeah that lasted like three weeks. : D45hiz
        • Yeah, even in the new dungeons I'm finding my hunter is rarely called upon to CC. Maybe for a few tough p... : Vincent Grayson
• This was the expansion where they bit the bullet, revisited the early parts of the game and did an outsta... : Home Nugget
• i think they made stuff easier too though : bolneze
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  To me, it feels like the next expansions should be doing something drastic if they want to keep people pl... : ramshot
  • "instead of making the parts that are already easy to access even easier to access and complete. " Th... : rickyfitz
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    World PvP never works what with faction imbalances. I don't know why people always ask for this. One fa... : ManiacalMoose
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      I ask for it because I've played MMOs with working world PvP, and it's effin awesome. Sure, there are oth... : ramshot
      • tbh i don't see how they can do world pvp and make it not suck. it would be easier to make a new game an... : kiddygrinder
• instead they are going for developer churn : MamiyaOtaru
• If I cancel my account, it will mostly be due to dissatisfaction with PVP. Leveling gear to be able to m... : watergoat