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    Hi guys,

    I appreciated that you guys picked up my topic, but I was kinda bummed that my main point was never really addressed. I guess that is what I get for writing a five paragraph essay rather than a quick hit response, so let me try again in shorter form:

    The big difference I see between games criticism and other media's criticism is that game's criticism is focused almost exclusively on how "fun" or instantly gratifying the experience is whereas other mediums try to cultivate tastes above and beyond this.

    Let me be clear that I have no problem with enjoyment for its own sake, but I just don't see that as something worthy of truly high praise. Instant gratification is something that tends to find its audience automatically whether we are talking about getting hammered and going to to eat greasy hamburgers or an inane music video about how awesome "Friday" is. Instant gratifciation is not something critics generally need to champion, it finds its audience on its own. Critics in other mediums--at least the pre-blog-o-sphere traditional ones--seem to be generally aware of this.

    And the ultimate problem is that when you start throwing out the 9/10 and Five star reviews behind the big blockbusters because they are "fun" and they instantly feel good to play, that is putting the stuff that truly is something special that goes above and beyond this at a distadvantage.

    Goddamn it. I still ended up with five paragraphs. I hate the confines of the Twitter era.
    Mar 25, 2011 3:55pm PDT
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    Hi guys, I appreciated that you guys picked up my topic, but I was kinda bummed that my main point was... : EternalGamer2

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      I just don't understand why the two are mutually exclusive. Why can't a reviewer give a great score to... : MHSilver
      • "Why can't a reviewer give a great score to a game for being fun, and an even better score to game that n... : EternalGamer2
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      Ah, now that I'm not sure I completely agree with. As MHSilver points out, the two needn't be mutually ex... : Garnett Lee
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        Regardless of whether or not you think it should be mutually exclusive, I think that sort of appeal to in... : EternalGamer2
        • "...should be viewed as mutually exclusive" is what I meant. : EternalGamer2
      • Thank you Garnett, for communicating in 1 simple paragraph what I've been trying to say across 5 posts :-... : CruelLEGACEY
    • For sake of clarification, what exactly are we to consider the video game equivalent to greasy hamburgers... : CampKusoge
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      Twitter isn't confining anyone, it's about context. A 12hr movie can be the greatest piece of cinema eve... : jjastor
      • Deserves to fail? : Monkey0111
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      I still think you are getting caught up in semantics (or maybe I am). There is actually very little game... : Runnermatt
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        I think I already gave what would be my response in CruelLEGACY's thread, so in order to avoid spamming m... : EternalGamer2
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          Considering you've been combative (and dismissive) in trying to argue your point about "Fun" I'll just ta... : Runnermatt
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            I apologize. My bad. -NT : EternalGamer2
            • no worries. I would ask if you consider ANY games journalist/ reviewer today as quality criticism? Is... : Runnermatt
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      I think what these people are trying to say in response is that games that try to and very successfully o... : RedSwirl
      • Now the question beyond that is, do critics have a responsibility to encourage more games to offer more t... : RedSwirl
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      The bigger question in my eyes is, what are these games that only offer instant gratification? What ga... : CampKusoge
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        That's just an extra layer of gratification that I think might be unique to video games. With most media ... : RedSwirl
        • That is an excellent breakdown, sir. My hat is off. As to your question, I feel that if it's appropria... : CampKusoge
        • That is a very interesting way to break it down. In response to your question, I would offer that persona... : CruelLEGACEY
    • For me, what videogames bring to the table is the experience first. Even going back to the days of pong w... : ImprobableJ