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• Hey cool, I like both of those names! I'll have to look into this when my contract runs out in two years! : Hemtroll
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  More - http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/nokia-and-microsoft-enter-strategic-alliance-on-windows-phone-b... : airrob
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    I don't get the bit about Nokia Maps becoming "a core part of Microsoft’s mapping services." Micro... : airrob
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      Bing uses Navteq maps, like Ovi maps. Navteq is owned by Nokia... : Ariakus
      • It says "Nokia Maps", not Navteq, which is interesting? : airrob
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  Smartest thing Nokia could have done, I like it : Serpico74
  • Ok, I really really like this : Serpico74
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  Holy shit. This is a brilliant move for both companies. Very impressive. : Danny5225
  • Reading on, it looks like this is an announcement of an announcement. There aren't many things inked out,... : Danny5225
• impressive, most impressive : jabuck
• nokia has always made great hardware, lets finally see them put out some phones that are actually competi... : smacknca
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  nobody gave a shit when i posted it yesterday >:( http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=25236346 especia... : Hoax
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    It was just confirmed about a half hour ago - up to then, it was just rumors. : airrob
    • the lead-up to it was interesting, there were strong indications that is was about to go down. : Hoax
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  I like how the first big feature Steve Ballmer mentions is... Bing : xlarti
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    Yes? It's a flagship product. : uncleanmonkey
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      He names it a brand that consumers "want". : xlarti
      • what is wrong with bing? it seems like a good search engine. : jabuck
      • i would love for bing to catch up too google and as long as i have a choice which one to use its a brand ... : Hoax
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        Xlarti's First Rule of Marketing: If you have poor brand value, have your CEO admit it in every press rel... : Ovate
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          I just thought it funny that it's the first brand out of his mouth mentioned alongside Office and Xbox Li... : xlarti
          • But yeah ofc I see why he does it - it's just not a plus in the vast majority of consumers minds. : xlarti
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  hope this means nokia adopts wp7 , and microsoft adopts nothing from nokia : Chandler55
  • they did, from the press release above: "Nokia would adopt Windows Phone as its principal smartphone str : jabuck
• Synergiastic! : dodob
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  http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/02/11/welcome-to-the-third-ecosystem/ Not sure what the first and ... : airrob
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    I think the first and second 'Ecosystems' would be Apple and Android. : master_disaster_17
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      Damn you! >_< : Danny5225
      • muarharharhar. : master_disaster_17
    • I guess - interesting that they would intentionally position themselves like that. : airrob
  • iOS and Android, I would assume. : Danny5225
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    Look at the nerds crying about MeeBo and Symbian going away. This means it will be a success. : Serpico74
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      I love the commenters who are convinced that qt + Symbian was light years ahead of WP7. : Danny5225
      • Fucking nerds don't understand that bulletpoint featurelists (or as I like to call it, "marketing for nec... : Serpico74
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      i'm going to check the maemo/meego forums today. dudes gotta be pissed given that they have invested 18 m : Hoax
      • That is fucking hysterical, I'm going to have to steal that : Serpico74
    • don't give a shit about the mobile stuff, but I do like the Qt toolkit on the desktop. Hopefully this do... : MamiyaOtaru
• Hell, it's about time. : master_disaster_17
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  I'm surprised they didn't go Android, I bet Microsoft made them a very good offer to get them on board. G... : MeestaNob
  • Going android would make Nokia just another player along with HTC and Samsung. And they'd be late to the ... : master_disaster_17
  • google was in the talks as well. its a good alliance though, win7 seems nice from what i read and nokia m... : Hoax
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    Not going with Android was so smart. Two reasons: 1) Every other handset company uses Android. Commiti... : Serpico74
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      Do not underestimate Nokia's potential to adapt WP7 into a different version for every single one of thei... : melt_core
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        That would be as bad as if they went with Android. I am hopeful that Microsoft will continue to reign ove... : Serpico74
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          haha you REALLY hate android : razorblade79
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            Are you telling me there is people that actually like that about Android? The fact that every Android pho... : ovrlrd
            • I like android, I like my phone with the htc suite on top. I could flash it and install a custom rom with... : razorblade79
      • They're not allowed to. : uncleanmonkey
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      did Andy kill your family or something ?!! i cant find a reason for all this hatred that you have. As for... : hanged_man
      • I can modify the engine in my car, but I shouldn't have to in order to enjoy it. With most Android phones... : ovrlrd
      • If you're looking for a slick and well-designed consumer device, android is pretty far behind both Window... : uncleanmonkey
  • I've always loved Nokia phones - but I wanted WP7. Just not in the crippled state is has in europe with a... : xlarti
  • You shouldn't be, a few weeks ago a top Nokia executive compared going with Android with "kids who pee in... : melt_core
• A post for developers, talks about WP7 SDK vs. Qt/Symbian - http://blogs.forum.nokia.com/blog/nokia-devel... : airrob
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  Well this is interesting - http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/24/editorial-nokia-isnt-building-an-android-or... : airrob
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    Yeah, then this happens: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/08/nokia-ceo-stephen-elop-rallies-troops-in-brut... : Serpico74
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      While competitors poured flames on our market share, what happened at Nokia? We fell behind, we missed bi : Serpico74
      • Wow. Takes balls to tell it how it is, that's exactly what I'e thought of Nokia for a while, they're late... : node
• hoy shitsticks : PixelPie
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  Fantastic news. The Windows Phone development has got to be the easiest platform to develop on from a UI ... : GoldfishInAJarOfPickles
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    well some people point out that even their old nokia phones could to what win7 can't WP7-specific limi... : Hoax
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      Irrelevant given that the experience of actually using those Nokia phones is crap. Also note that many of... : Serpico74
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        its relevant to people who buy their phones for specific reasons. i have no doubt that microsoft will man... : Hoax
        • "Features" are useless unless actually using them is facilitated by the interface. This was the real sign... : Serpico74
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      Goddamn some of those 'missing' features are so nerdy and irrelevant. : filthysock
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        I dunno, they all seem pretty relevant to me. What makes this a 'smartphone' if it cant do most of that s... : MeestaNob
        • the following I don't think are that important: No system-wide file manager No Bluetooth file transfers... : filthysock
• This make me happy, even though I love Android, and don't forsee changing platforms. This kind of thin... : famine101
• Obviously, they're finally building this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX-gTobCJHs : Vincent Grayson
• This is great actually, I'm quite excited about this. : nomaad
• good news for us wp7devs Nokia on their own island was losing relevancy and they might as well ride all ... : threeup
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  I think this is gonna be a huge fail. The biggest thing about Nokia is their wide range of phones. The... : kabex
  • This doesn't stop them from still making Symbian "dumb" phones. But they've realised in particular that t... : node
  • They are already losing all their market share this is an attempt to save the future of the company. And ... : furiouschuck
• Dumb. Android would have allowed them to innovate and stay competitive. Nokia is going to be undercut by ... : MeenMunky
• So meego is dead? I wonder how this affects QT development. : GloriousCow