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How big a deal is refresh rate in a lcd tv?
Like is 60hz vs 120hz worth the extra 100 bucks or so?
Jan 28, 2011 12:39pm PST
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How big a deal is refresh rate in a lcd tv? Like is 60hz vs 120hz worth the extra 100 bucks or so?
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sKetchflow
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Fuck yes. You need a proper 24hz mode for movies, and you get that with a 120
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roushimsx
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this is the right answer. a 120hz set might come with a frame interpolation feature, too. turn it the fuc...
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cpt_gloval
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Frame interpolation is for retards and pedophiles
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roushimsx
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What if someone is both a retard and a pedophile?
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thecatinthehat
They put their wife beater and cut off jean shorts backwards
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roushimsx
I guess it depends on how much you're going to keep and use the TV. If you're going to have it for years ...
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not work safe
I think it is. I quite like my 120 over my 60 one. If newegg still has the orange Acer one, that one is r...
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Fenring42
120hz is the proper minimum, and make sure it's really 120hz.
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one random winner
It probably is just because the 120hz panel is a new model while the 60hz is comprised of all the old lef...
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Prozium
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unless your room is stupid bright, just by a plasma and don't worry about that stuff.
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DonkeyPopsicle
I have both a stupid bright room and plasma, and I have no problems. I just switch it to a brighter mode ...
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rick
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Thread Jack
Wife wants a 32" tv for our bedroom. I'm looking at 720P, because we'll be far enough f...
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dedgecko
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http://reviews.cnet.com/best-32-inch-hdtvs/ ?
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DonkeyPopsicle
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nothing really that cheap in that list, though
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DonkeyPopsicle
amazon reviewers like this one: http://www.amazon.com/LG-32LD350-32-Inch-720p-HDTV/dp/B0039RNGNY/ref=sr_1...
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DonkeyPopsicle
quite possibly the worst list ever made. Who the hell would spend more than $500 bucks on a 32" tv?
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dedgecko
Try this 720p 32" $309: http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-32C100U-32-Inch-Black-Gloss/dp/B0038JED6M/ref=pd...
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Dolemite
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I thought 240hz was the newest hotness? Also make sure it can do 3d.
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thecatinthehat
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Vast majority of the "240hz" labeled tv's are actually just using interpolation. That, and I believe HDM...
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one random winner
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I think it's Sony and Samsung that are "real 240hz". I just picked this one up: http://www.samsung.com/u...
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zebosausamite
Not exactly, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Specifications says that the original spec was just enough...
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one random winner
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I don't think there is a single HDTV on the market now that can accept even a 120hz signal.
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Prozium
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What?
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zebosausamite
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120hz and 240hz hdtvs are either using frame interpolation or frame duplication to get that refresh rate....
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Prozium
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Hmm I thought some sets were actually 120hz and the higher ones were all BS. So the only real 120Hz monit...
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sanchez
If by "real" you mean "monitor that can accept 120hz and display 120hz", then yes, that Asus is one of th...
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Prozium
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Hell, are there even any devices that output a 120hz signal?
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cpt_gloval
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The 3D TVs must take a 120 Hz signal I guess?
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jcupitt
Your PC can output a 120hz signal (assuming your video card supports it). The 3D blu-ray players output a...
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Prozium
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I have no use for either of these.
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sKetchflow
240hz will "guarantee" that you have no motion blur. 3D is up to you. If you want to save money, at lea...
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zebosausamite
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Get a plasma unless you need sub-40" screen. No need for 120Hz then.
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Crabs Jarrard
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You need 120 Hz on your plasma if you want 24p movie playback that doesn't judder or flicker.
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jcupitt
Not necessarily. My Kuro is effectively 72hz when in 24p cinema mode and it's fine. Any of the top end pa...
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Prozium
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So what's the deal with plasmas? Are they just dimmer or their lifespan is shorter? I'm looking at around...
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sKetchflow
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They're not as popular anymore, they used to be power hogs (but have since calmed down quite a bit) and t...
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one random winner
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Best picture quality, best motion, best everything
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Serpico74
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Well, there are some things that LCDs are better at. They are brighter, require less power, thinner, ligh...
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rick
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LEDs are maybe brighter, but my panasonic's display is pretty blinding even at 60% brightness/contrast
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EvilDolemite
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Fuck it. You fools have convinced me to buy a plasma.
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sKetchflow
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they're dirt cheap now!
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EvilDolemite
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Yea? http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-TC-P42S2-42-Inch-1080p-Plasma/dp/B0036VO70Y/ref=sr_1_9?s=tv&ie=UTF8&...
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sKetchflow
The G25 series is better: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003924UBG However, you may want to wait a...
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Bold
The new Panasonic plasmas I saw at CES this year were almost as thin as an LCD (half the thickness of my ...
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Serpico74
Still suffer from image retention though :/ Don't give me guff about cheap sets, my Panasonic does it ...
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ieGod
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the only thing I don't like about my plasma is that I am totally terrified to ever leave it alone. like ...
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mikecyb
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Which one do you have? I don't know if I've ever seen image retention, and that's even after displaying a...
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Serpico74
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it's Samsung something or another... I think it still has fewer than 1000 hours of viewing time (or whate...
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mikecyb
Samsung C550
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mikecyb
I've got a samsung plasma now, and it's a lot worse w.r.t. image retention than my old panasonic. :-/ It...
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tostador
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You have to be more careful with the Samsungs. They don't have the quality anti image retention tech the...
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midgetherder
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reading the docs they do have stuff in place but the optimal settings don't seem to be the factory settin...
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mikecyb
pixel shift I mean... that seems to be more for burn in, not retention though but I assume one leads to t...
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mikecyb
Bah, I leave my Panasonic plasma on the same screen for hours at a time with no problems. The only time I
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Bold
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Don't sweat it and buy a 2011 Panasonic plasma.
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Merconium
The new VT30 and GT30 are ridiculous
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Serpico74
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Plasma tv's do not have refresh rates because it is gas, not pixels. I was on a budget and saved the m...
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tehwalter
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But I'm assuming plasmas still can't accept a 120hz signal from a PC?
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sanchez
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I believe that is correct yeah-- I think using it as a monitor would not be a great idea.
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tehwalter
Plasmas do get image retention (the kind that goes away), so continuous UI elements in the same spot on a...
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rick
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That first sentence is one of the funniest things I've read today. Thanks.
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Conan
dude it's gas, not pixels!
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mikecyb
Very very big deal. Go look at some TVs on the floor at Best Buy and you'll see the difference.
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I'm very impressed that not a single person has said that 120hz makes the tv look like a soap opera, not ...
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SuperKoopa
theres no frame interpolation on a 60hz set !
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HisKillSkill
Wait for 2011 Panasonic Plasma's to come out. Should be out around end of February if you can wait. H...
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ant_hillbilly