Signed up to say this: I happen to think Civ V is a big disappointment. I don't appreciate the sentiment of, "Go back to Civ IV you luddite," or, "Fuck you!" I think we can all live in harmony despite our differences. If you like Civ V, I'm ok with that.

But since a "Fuck those people" has already been thrown out there: no, fuck you! It was obvious since your preview discussions of Civ V that you guys are actually severely ignorant of both the time at which certain innovations were introduced, and more importantly, what effect they had on the franchise.

Here is your required reading:

Tom Chick's review outlines series flaws that were ignored by every other big site:
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3181540

Sullla proves that he understands the game better than the people who made it. His article is not an emotional tirade on the game, it is an explanation of the design choices in Civ V and the consequences of those choices. You can just skip down half way to "Five Problem's with Civ V's Design":
http://www.garath.net/Sullla/Civ5/whatwentwrong.html

If you want to have a real discussion you're going to have to catch up to us in terms of understanding the game itself. Telling us to just go back to Civ IV is like conservatives telling liberals to move to Canada. It is such an offensive comment to make in light of the work the Civ community has put into analyzing the game and fixing it on their own (Civ IV was saved when the community made a better AI than than Firaxes could make. Firaxes implemented that mod into an official patch a month later.) "Fuck those people"? Those are the people who will fix Civ.