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• APB is failure. I'm not even sure we can call Age of Conan a failure. Rocky start for sure, mis-opportuni... : Jonathan
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  you mean.. EVE Online, Aion, Age of Conan, Everquest 1 and 2, Asheron's Call 1... There are plenty of pa... : JuffoWup
  • APBs death has nothing to do with WoW's success. From the reviews I read and the friends I talked to that... : Walterbennet
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    That's true, but for each of those there's another 10 by companies thinking that an MMO will lead to mass... : ckozlowski
    • To be fair, you really can't say that EQ1 plays like WoW. I'm pretty sure that would violate several laws... : Hemtroll
    • Same goes for non-mmo titles. The game industry is an investment casino. : [7]kami
  • Aion most certainly plays like WoW. So does Everquest 2. In fact, eq2 was a very different game when it w... : rtrson
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  (This is a bad example when it comes to APB) This is why most MMOs fail though. It's just like the old d... : lcizzle
  • I kind of agree..I used to play a LOT in vanilla/TBC, but lost interest due to having/wanting a life. Th... : Rape.Farm
  • Define "fail." If you mean "fails to surpass WoW's popularity/profit" then ok. I define fail by profitabi... : StealthHawk
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  I don't understand the fascination with WoW, still play Ultima Online and you can still do more in that g... : Ziz
  • I am still thinking wow is great but Cataclysm should show up : yosan
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  Have you checked out Guild Wars 2? They seem like they've got a pretty solid design plan and things are ... : Rape.Farm
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    Actually it'll probably be 6 weeks of pre-release hype, followed by 6 weeks of post-release bug gripes an... : Dynotaku
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      Don't confuse shackhype with the popularity of games. : Jonathan
      • Especially since the typical Shack user hypes things up way too much and then whines and bitches when the... : LordPhobos
    • Your cynicism is understandable, and for most new MMOs I'd agree, but given that they've already had a su... : Rape.Farm
• DAoC had legs until Mythic ruined the gameplay by adding overpowered gear impossible to acquire for the a... : Tech T
• I've stopped caring about MMO's. They stopped being fun and are pretty much all just blatant grinds to mi... : zehoo