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  3DR = much much more than DNF. Why should the media punish them more than any other company that has had... : Kristian Joensen
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    Well, TF2 was actually released, and didn't take up 11 years of development time. Basically 3DR have prov... : thesubtlesnake
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      "Well, TF2 was actually released, and didn't take up 11 years of development time." Well it took 10 ye... : Kristian Joensen
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        but they did release success story games in those 10 years? : Frush81
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          Are you talking about Valve or 3DR? In both cases the answer is yes, very much so. : Kristian Joensen
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            They obviously didn't release enough success story games, or they'd still be in business. : NotACommunist
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              They ARE still in business. : Kristian Joensen
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                Oh right, those shitty XBLA games and crap freeware. How could I forget. : NotACommunist
                • Like I excepted arbitrary dismissal of certain projects. They don't "count" for whatever bs reason. Who ... : Kristian Joensen
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        TF2 started as a mod, then was adapted to become its own game. In the interim, it took time to develop a... : HisDivineOrder
        • "See, while 3dRealms was developing no shipping titles, Valve was shipping titles and developing revoluti... : Kristian Joensen
        • "Valve adapted the Quake engine, had a hugely successful game, developed their own engine from scratch" ... : anal justice
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    The troubled development of TF2? Who is telling the bold faced lie now? Valve had a small team led by ... : Wisp!
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      "Valve had a small team led by Robin Walker working on a "realistic" TF2, and they didn't like their resu... : Kristian Joensen
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        Except 3DR wasted millions upon millions on a large, AAA project. TF2 was not this. Your comparison t... : Wisp!
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          I am not doubting Valve's accomplishments at all. I don't want people to have the same attitude towards V... : Kristian Joensen
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            TF2 was not on the same scale as Duke Nukem Forever. It's just a fact. Valve didn't destroy themselves tr... : Wisp!
            • "TF2 was not on the same scale as Duke Nukem Forever." Sure it was, it was a game with similar amount ... : Kristian Joensen
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  Fact is that 90 per cent of people who grew up in the era of Duke 3D and Quake still hold hope for this g... : Lord Skellington
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    It's more like a really vocal 9% that give a shit. : The Wilhelm Scream
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      No it is vocal minority that claims that it is a vocal minority that gives a shit. : Kristian Joensen
      • Please! Only a vocal minority believes a vocal minority claims only a vocal minority gives a shit. : Arceihn
    • I don't think so. Do you really think it would get so much press if that was true? Granted it's not good ... : Lord Skellington
  • its gonna 0wn : retardhumper
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  i remember hearing about tf2 like in 2001 give or take. It was supposed to me a somewhat realistic multil... : nicknick86
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    TF2 was originally announced back in 1997. : Kristian Joensen
    • Man I totally forgot about team fortress on the quake engine. Damn that was years ago. : nicknick86