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  Not quite the best analogy. It's more like a farmhouse with a gate (you need a password to install anythi... : ryuuseki
  • Assuming that they're going for root. Lots of malware nowadays doesn't even bother going for root, with ... : umcpwintermute
  • You realize analogies aren't used as 1:1 comparisons of a system right? : pyros
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  As somebody who mostly uses Macs these days I'm rather afraid that they are some kind of monoculture that... : tcs
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    There really isn't much you can do on a Mac - security market hasn't expanded to the point where there ar... : umcpwintermute
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      IIRC Apple rolled out a mini anti-virus a little while ago through software updates that was for a specif... : ryuuseki
      • There are some rootkits in heavy use for cracked servers, but a lot of the Linux/BSD malware is aimed at ... : umcpwintermute
      • I heard that too, that there was some minimal AV-type thing in Snow Leopard. I think it would be a very s... : tcs
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    there needs to be spyware first before you can have a spyware remover : electroly
    • bingo : two50six
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      Well, once that happens I'll be back here all like MAC MENZ HELP ME I DONT KNOW HOW TO REMOVE SPYWAREZ FR... : tcs
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        the worst that would happen is you'd have to nuke your user account and create a new one. the rigorous s... : electroly
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          So malware can only spy out & destroy all my data, but the OS is safe! Thank god! Wheew, what a relief! ;... : tcs
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            if they can overwrite your OS, they can overwrite your Time Machine backups :) unless you unplug that ha... : electroly
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              Yes, I'd agree that most risk is to stuff like banking information and installing spam mass mailers and a... : tcs
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                OSX has a Unix-like user system. There isn't really any concept of an "admin" user; there's only limited... : electroly
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                  UAC isn't an artificial barrier, it's very much like sudo. It's that by turning off UAC, you essential s... : umcpwintermute
                  • UAC isn't a security barrier in default mode, you can easily side-step it : jcupitt
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                  Ok, thanks! I'm quite familiar with Linux/UNIX, just wasn't sure if OS X was doing anything different her... : tcs
                  • Having an "Administrator" account means that you're allowed to do administrator things with prompting, no... : umcpwintermute
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                    note that "sudo su" does work, if you find yourself needing to do a lot of admin tasks at one time : electroly
                    • or "sudo -s" :) : jcupitt
              • Yea, an account compromise on one account won't spread to the others (assuming FileVault or non-world-wri... : umcpwintermute
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    there are anti-virus and anti-malware apps for Mac out there, yet, I've been running my Mac for about 3 y... : g0nk
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      Yea, but those aren't the "real" malware things you need to watch out for. The real ones are malicious F... : umcpwintermute
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        There are a handful of exploits of OS X out there: http://www.metasploit.com/modules/exploit/osx/ : umcpwintermute
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          Newest one is 2007 looks like. : ryuuseki
          • Yea, Metasploit is kind of slacking in putting out exploits and shellcode for OS X. Plus I'm sure the go... : umcpwintermute
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    it's not that bad. OS X is half BSD+GNU, there are tons of non-Apple people that work on their software : ]pm[chem
    • Sure, I'm a software developer and enjoy both BSD and the GNU tools daily on my system ;-) With monocultu... : tcs
  • http://security.comcast.net/ gives free norton Is for Mac to it's customers hey, free norton 360 to wi... : sludge vohaul
• It's also living in a farmhouse in the country because the town you live in only has like 30 people. : JohnnyRey
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  So Mac OSX is basically going to be that figure in the news story where they start out the piece by sayin... : Schnapple
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    Pretty much. As Macs pick up market share (and I'm a Mac user at home myself), I certainly expect them t... : umcpwintermute
    • that's fortunate because now I can resume those activities without risking the censure of my peers : boring gegtik
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  same argument / viewpoint for the past 10 years, I don't see OSX suddenly becoming more popular so I don'... : fatman
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    You don't see OSX suddenly becoming more popular? : boring gegtik
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      I don't. Not percentage-wise anyway. Sure there may be more users than there were a year ago, but I'd s... : SgtPepper78
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        Doesn't look very accurate in comparison to this: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp : ryuuseki
        • But I posted my graph from some random proprietary source first so mine's right! : SgtPepper78
        • that's just percentages of people who visit a single particular site. A site whose visitors aren't repre... : MamiyaOtaru
      • so 5.15% in 2010, 3.5% in 2007, according to that site (pulldown top left to change the date) : jcupitt
    • For developers, yes. The app store alone forces many wanna get rich developers to purchase at least a Ma... : freakynipples69
    • OS X is too close to sounding like Malcolm X. It's an OS for black people. Also, Apples are red and tha... : TwiLyght
• I don't use OS X because its perceived as more safe, and security never really bothered me while I grew u... : not work safe
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  Analogies should be banned on the internet. : walker270
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    The internet should be banned in analogies. : SgtPepper78
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      One could say the internet is an analogy. : Godhatesfatpeople
      • The analogy is the internet. : freakynipples69
  • I know, it's like, there's these tubes and someone is trying to fuck them with their genitalia. : scottythejock
  • Saying that is like me trying to be funny. Futile. : Klebold
• I'm not sure why this is news to anyone. Apple patches security holes in free updates just like microsof... : SqueegyTBS
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  Whilst on the subject, i lol'd today when a mate told me he had to "book an appointment" at the mac store... : Klebold
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    if its broken and he wants a free one, then it is like any other cell phone store in existence and you ne... : papaskot
    • Because you need an appointment to get a fucking cable? The kind of crap you are pulling i find equally a... : Klebold