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  agreed. and considering i only buy digital download games anymore, almost exclusively from steam, im not ... : radio_babylon
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    sigh and i forgot to add the seemingly required disclaimer to my message, so ill add it here to forestall... : radio_babylon
    • Hear hear! I still haven't played several "must play" games due to their infantile anti-customer Digit... : three-d
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  the 15 activations for GFWL is standard - Batman AA has it. if you are using a non-SSA key, you have to h... : dahanese
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    What does the whole "non-SSA" key thing mean? I've not heard of that before. : Schnapple
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      yeah, this was surprising to me. i think a lot of people don't know what goes in to Games for Windows Liv... : dahanese
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        but i have batman linked to my gamer tag; and ms folks told me over the phone that gfwl isnt drm. i got o... : l0s7man
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          you can link any game to your gamertag, regardless of the key. that's just a back end thing that you migh... : dahanese
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            If it imposes an activation limit, it's DRM, regardless of how you want to spin it. : genom
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              I don't care what you call it, honestly. I want you to know what it does, that's all. GFWL does a lot for... : dahanese
              • Thanks, I'm sure people would. But nobody on the PC cares about the features of GFWL, tbh. It's just ... : Xulu
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                And that's fine. Clarification is good. But, saying "GFWL is not DRM", and then "GFWL imposes a 15 acti... : genom
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                  I guess there's "DRM which limits how many times you can install" and "DRM which installs specia... : Schnapple
                  • Right - anything that (attempts to) artificially prevent me from running the software I've purchased, due... : genom
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                  the reason i said that is because the guy i was replying to stated that microsoft told him GFWL wasn't DR... : dahanese
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                    Understood. MS is, however, lying (isn't the first time, won't be the last). : genom
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                      Microsoft didn't tell him GFWL wasn't DRM so much as a clueless outsourced individual on the phone told h... : Schnapple
                      • That's the problem. You are always talking to the IDIOT on the other end of the line. Never, never in my ... : l0s7man
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    so if i have the steam copy of batman, and run out of auths, and get issued a new key... how do i tie tha... : radio_babylon
    • I don't think you get issued a new key. They just reset the installs on your current key. You don't get s... : crummynz
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    why do you keep going back to Batman AA? who cares about that game? i don't own that game or care about i... : yacoub35
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      Maybe it's the fact that nobody complained about Batman's DRM. We were all cool with that. Why does it ch... : crummynz
      • Because back then people talked about how eidos was trying to buy 90% reviews and covers and there was sp... : angelrubio
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  Who cares? I really don't get this. Is it on pure principle? Or do you actually foresee installing the... : pleasedpig
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    The more I think about it, the dumber this sounds. So there's no difference between 5 and 15? What if i... : pleasedpig
    • i like to at least have an illusion that i own the game :-) when i pay for it; which of course isnt true... : l0s7man
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  Blah blah blah. And it's not hard limited, you make a phone call and it gets reset. And again, what are... : oscrogo
  • sigh... better ms than shitty securom. but if it turns out that i have hard limit on activations that no ... : l0s7man
• i don't get this... Why cut off people who buy it? I mean, the pirated version will probably be out befor... : angelrubio