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    The hate here is deep.

    But completely understandable.
    Dec 26, 2009 3:37pm PST
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    The hate here is deep. But completely understandable. : ScottMi11er

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      I don't think it's fair at all. 3DRealms doesn't owe anyone here anything. I have loved a lot of the game... : Makenxero
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        "People should be grateful for what they have had, instead of bitching about what they think they should ... : X-GOUKIThis person is cool!
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          It's just a game. : thejay247
          • what game are you talking about? : X-GOUKIThis person is cool!
      • Turns out, people don't respond well to being led on for 12 years (and counting). : Pulveri
      • The people hurt most by the Duke problems were the Duke teams that did all the work. I don't feel sorry ... : spyrextThis person is cool!
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        they don't owe us anything but they've blown their credibility : dantasticThis person is cool!
        • ^^^ : zehh
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      I respectfully disagree. Makenxero said it, you don't owe us a damn thing and have given us a lot for any... : dognoseThis person is cool!
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        Oh stfu. Everyone else has got their rose tinted glasses off by now. And you wanna thank remedy f... : Xulu
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          Oh I do thank Remedy for Max Payne. But I know who started it and sponsored it and guided it. : dognoseThis person is cool!
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            And Sam Lake didn't write it? Remedy didn't make it? In that case you should be thanking T2 and ignor... : Xulu
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              rememedy made a freaking tech demo. 3DR molded it into a cohesive marketable product. Max payne was nothi... : italiano3d
              • Whatever the case, it became awesome, : dognoseThis person is cool!
              • My ass. You're giving buncha producers waaaaay too much credit. And it was still made on a shoestring... : Xulu
      • That's my sentiment. From their internally developed D3D (and Shadow Warriah) to external projects like M... : Marrbe
      • You're totally right that they don't owe anyone anything, and if they do turn in good products everyone h : TawlerThis person is cool!
    • You still have fans by the way. We're just quiet 'cause we're confused. Haters, well, they gotta hate. ... : dognoseThis person is cool!
    • Well perhaps if the game was finished 10 years ago the hate wouldnt be here at all. : zchri9
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      With respect, Scott - No one has the right to generally shit on 3DR or the people that work/worked there,... : Durajim
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        don't get me wrong I love the Duke games and can't wait for DNF but if George hadnt been such a perfectio... : zchri9
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          I know you love the Duke games and I suspect you are right. As I said above, I cannot fault him for that... : dognoseThis person is cool!
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            Although since George has been such a perfectionist I think we can be very sure the game will be awesome. : zchri9
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              Provided there is a game. My head votes for no, while my heart votes for yes. : dognoseThis person is cool!
              • We've got to give 3D Realms and GB and Mi11er credit. They worked 12 years on this game. Now THATS dedic... : zchri9
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      Scott, I think George needed you for a reality check. Its highly admirable that he refused to release any... : kraemerThis person is cool!
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        Milestones are good, but how do you go about balancing personal integrity and meeting deadlines? If yo... : Durajim
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          "If you were in his boots and you were coming up to an important deadline and you simply weren't happy wi... : mobab
          • then = than your = my proofing ftw =( : mobab
          • True, I think we can all agree on these points, but like always, my original point has got lost somewhere... : Durajim
        • "would you REALLY feel happy shipping something that didn't meet your own personal expectations." A lo... : KillrigThis person is cool!
      • ^ this is the reason titles are trash now a days and rarely ever get finished. : italiano3d
    • Ever hear about the boy that cried wolf? Duke 3d was awesome and for that I thank you. People are ti... : erebusThis person is cool!
    • just get your acts together, buckle down, get some proper project management and release some solid new d... : dantasticThis person is cool!
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      Hey Scott. No hate, just a shame how things turned out. I bought Kroz from you guys all those years ago, ... : nodeThis person is cool!
      • srsly, maybe consider ditching Duke and giving me a sequel to Cosmo's Cosmic Adventure, or Wacky Wheels. ... : MamiyaOtaru
    • at this point Scott don't you think its just better to shut up and produce SOMETHING rather than do anoth... : cell9song
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      I still say that DNF should have been released in episodic format. Armchair quarterbacking with 20/20 hi... : Xin Jing Client 1a
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        Look at how well episodic format releases worked for Ritual. : the archvileThis person is cool!
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          The episodic format worked great for Valve, and both SiN: Episode 1 Emergence (released May 2006) and the : Xin Jing Client 1a
          • I still don't think that everyone at Ritual just enthusiastically went over to help develop Luxor 3 in ea... : the archvileThis person is cool!
    • Its not really understandable. They are only games after all. If you are going to release something; grea... : usedillusionThis person is cool!
    • It's more that we are pissed off at the fact you fumbled at the 10 yard line and the other team picked up... : skitzoThis person is cool!
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      completely understandable? completely understandable?! Is that it? *facepalm* : XerXesThis person is cool!
      • you know miller i got banned for telling george here on the shack 3 years ago it wasn't coming out and to... : spaemp3
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      There is no emotion as roiled and vitrolic as NERD RAGE. : Boring Writer
      • Hell hath no fury like a gamer scorned. : the archvileThis person is cool!
    • Please just fix the controls for Duke 3D in the iPhone. See Doom Classic for an example. : SchnappleThis person is cool!
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      naaah, its nothing more than a nerd rage and these nerds will completely forget it once they get their ha... : hanged_man
      • Nah, idsoftware rules! : Curium244
    • Maybe if you guys realized it wasn't hate for no reason but based on things you could have fixed, say 8 y... : thebigbeefsandwich
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      i find it funny that my responses to SM or GB get removed for being honest about this whole bs situation : ShXIII
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        Yeah that was a shame your comment hit the nail on the head for me. My reply went too with your nuked pos... : mactuThis person is cool!
        • The one about the mind games that is. : mactuThis person is cool!
    • CASUAL GAMING : kn1fe
    • 3drealms or who ever they are now really don't wanna make any real money they're too busy running a damn... : Curium244
    • releasing the team DOES correlate to the demise of the project :( you gotta understand lots of the hate ... : DownforceThis person is cool!
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      There is hate, but honestly you guys still have many loyal fans (including me), i think most of us that w... : dancingpolkabear
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        The fact that people actually call themselves "loyal fans" of 3DR is a testament to the human capability ... : pleasedpig
        • What exactly is your problem? : dognoseThis person is cool!