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    I was playing Torchlight last night and started thinking about other single player games that wouldve been even better with multiplayer. What games do you think would have been better with local/online co-op? On my short list, I'd say Mass Effect, Fallout 3, and Half Life 2 would be awesome if they had a MP mode. What else am I missing?
    Dec 09, 2009 6:43am PST
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    I was playing Torchlight last night and started thinking about other single player games that wouldve bee... : jingletard

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      far cry 2 : jujubeads
      • A million times this. : hoov1185
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        Far Cry 2 seems like it was built for Co Op what with the cars you can drive with mounted machine guns th... : marmiteThis person is cool!
        • I always thought this was retarded and couldn't believe that there was no co-op. : IHATEDUST
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      You're missing the part where none of those would be better with multiplayer! I like my games, in particu... : daedraug
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        Well, yeah. I can understand that but it wouldve been interesting to see how it would work. I don't mind ... : jingletard
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          Diablo was a single-player game in my experience ;) : daedraug
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            I was bored by Diablo singleplayer after 10 minutes and never tried it again. for some weird reason I lov... : razorblade79This person is cool!
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              Diablo 1 or 2? 2 I can see, but 1 was just a fantastic experience imo :( : daedraug
              • 1. I think 1 is better than 2 in almost any way. But both have always been a coop game to me. : razorblade79This person is cool!
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              Torchlight takes after D2, Diablo was a totally different game. Much more of an atmospheric dungeon crawl... : ZekThis person is cool!
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                really? IMO it's exactly the other way round : razorblade79This person is cool!
                • The dungeon layout is like D1 but in terms of the combat craziness and more adventurous atmosphere that's... : ZekThis person is cool!
        • Diablo was also only barely an RPG. : nurglichThis person is cool!
        • Balder's Gate MP was amazing. : DerringerThis person is cool!
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      Dead space co-op. : fugu124This person is cool!
      • That wouldve been cool. : jingletard
      • Nooooooooooooo. Why?? Its supposed to be an intense and story driven game, coop games result in cutscene... : KleboldThis person is cool!
      • Play Dead Space: Extraction for the Wii. : GodZilly
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      WRONG. Multiplayer in Fallout 3 defeats the entire feel and purpose of the game. There's a Co-op mod f... : Duffman8369
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        in my favourite parts of Mass Effect, another dude with a different opinion of what to do would have real... : razorblade79This person is cool!
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          Hah yeah, the dialogue parts would be difficult to do in MP. : jingletard
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            Old Republic does exactly that, using the Mass Effect dialog dial. Based on what i heard, everyone choose... : razorblade79This person is cool!
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              Yikes. If they make it so there's a party "leader" whose dialogue choices matter in the end, while the ot... : beanman101283
              • you could do something like a charisma/leadership/diplomacy stat that would give you preference in pickin... : dirge23
              • It sounds like it would dramatically discourage running with a PUG but with friends it would be alright. ... : Duffman8369
    • Oblivion could've done very well as a MP game considering you aren't even the main protagonist. And whil... : one random winner
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      I have really disliked the trend from recent years where developers try to cram multiplay into their game... : tomservoThis person is cool!
      • yeah see guys we have this great multiple options first person rpg strategy game, and it also has multipl : razorblade79This person is cool!
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        Exactly, nobody cares about the single-player anymore. They're all focused on the half-assed multiplayer. : The Grolar Bear
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          Example? : enyakk
          • I'm worried Bioshock 2 might become an example. : UselessHack
          • Modern Warfare 2 : Pixelbeast
        • Except for several major releases this year, like Uncharted 2, Assassin's Creed 2, Demon's Souls, Batman:... : Vincent GraysonThis person is cool!
        • I think some people may have misinterpreted my post. What I meant was that when you have subpar multiplay... : The Grolar Bear
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        Yeah, that used to be pretty bad. Hasn't happened much in the last 5 years though. : enyakk
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          To me it seems like it was fairly rampant between maybe 2001 and 2005 or so. It seems like that shit real... : tomservoThis person is cool!
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            Definitely. One of the more succesful results of that mentality turned out to be Splinter Cell Multiplaye... : enyakk
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              Was that good? I seem to remember Shack being briefly infatuated with it when the 3rd one came out (I thi... : tomservoThis person is cool!
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                Multiplayer was added with the 2nd game (Pandora Tomorrow) and it was brilliantly designed and one of the... : enyakk
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                  Yeah that was pretty damn cool, like a 2v2 L4D with super-spies instead of zombies. : ZekThis person is cool!
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                    I forget, did the PC version have MP? If so, it would be cool to have a Shackbattle sometime. : IazuThis person is cool!
                    • Oh yeah. I know I played that multi on 2 on PC; I don't know about Chaos Theory though. : MercFox1
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                I'm not really into MP in general, but the Multiplay in Splinter Cell:Chaos Theory (the third one) was p... : IazuThis person is cool!
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                  Man that sounds really neat. I'm bummed I missed out. : tomservoThis person is cool!
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                    It was an extremely deep gameplay experience. With some luck the new Splinter Cell might bring some of th... : enyakk
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                      I'm too busy/important to research this at the moment, but do you happen to know if I were to buy this on... : tomservoThis person is cool!
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                        I just looked into it. Looks like it's still going and they even recently fixed some issues people were h... : IazuThis person is cool!
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                          Awesome! Add me on Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/tomservo I will buy it and we should play, even... : tomservoThis person is cool!
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                            Yep, Chaos Theory. I'm downloading now and I'll test it out tonight when I get home (work connection's so... : IazuThis person is cool!
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                              Word, I'm getting it now too. My Steam_id is "methyd_x" : eonix
                              • If people still play this online on the PC, there will be two more copies sold. : sogelegos
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                        Did they remove StarForce from Chaos Theory? : Sailor of Fortune
                        • For the Steam version, yes : IazuThis person is cool!
                  • Splinter Cell Chaos Theory Coop was AMAZING as well. It actually had a lot of emphasis on the CO in co... : Sailor of Fortune
                • Agree, 100% (although I played it mostly on PC, I owned both versions). Merc's were first-person. Spl... : eonix
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                Two and three had the same multiplayer component. : MercFox1
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                  Didn't they dumb down the MP for the Double Agent? I remember not being as impressed with it. : IazuThis person is cool!
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                    Double Agent is the 4th incarnation, and its MP was not like Pandora Tomorrow or Chaos Theory's. : eonix
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                      Really, I played the 360 version and I could've sworn that it was like the previous 2, just simplified. T... : IazuThis person is cool!
                      • Question mark goes at the end of "Really" : IazuThis person is cool!
                • Almost the same. Three was a little imbalanced compared to two because of some improvements that were mad... : sogelegos
          • For a current example of a game that just doesn't need MP, see Bioshock 2. : IazuThis person is cool!
    • any game would be better with split screen coop : cfalcon
    • all three of those would be terrible with multiplayer. : ass-street
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      Stalker, but with the game, not just deathmatch. : lolpatrol
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        A coop game with the STALKER singleplayer experience... done right... would be incredible. : tomservoThis person is cool!
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          Whenever I think about this, I get the mental image of two dudes in one of the underground tunnels, one c... : ZTac
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            Agreed. Scavenging for items in a creepy dilapidated setting with someone who has your back sounds like o... : tomservoThis person is cool!
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              oh man that would be fucking awesome : deject
              • CIRCLE JERK!!! : eonix
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      My problem with MP games is 9/10 times you're going to spam through the dialogue and turn whatever settin... : kgargs
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        This is why I always play Diablo games solo the first time through. There's always some dude who's alread... : ZekThis person is cool!
        • That's a good idea and one approach I may make in the future. My brain just doesn't work as fast as thes... : kgargs
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        This is a problem with your TEAMMATES, not the games or the concept of co-op. Also notice I called the... : DinKThis person is cool!
        • There's some truth to that. : kgargs
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      Half-Life 2: Deathmatch doesnt count? : BaronVonSnakPak
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        compared to Valve's other efforts this really doesn't count as a game, it's extremely bare-bones. still, ... : dirge23
        • Same, snatching orbs out of the air with the grav gun was so much goddamn fun. : Arctic Fox
    • Multiplayer doesn't necessarily make a game good, though. It doesn't even make it better sometimes. : Dschinghis Khan
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      Mount & Blade. Yeah, the expansion has multiplayer, but I want co-op. : Rag and Bone Man
      • Agreed, that would be pretty awesome : tfsbrian
      • I really need to play this at some point. Bought it on sale on Steam a while ago and never installed. : IazuThis person is cool!
    • Single player games can be very boring for me personally regardless of how awesome they are just because ... : unjustendThis person is cool!
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      The idea that every game would be better with co-op is one of the most ludicrous beliefs among gamers. : EvilDolemiteThis person is cool!
      • I would have loved co-op on this back in the day: http://www.lemon64.com/?mainurl=http%3A//www.lemon64 : Salad Sammich
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        seriously. the whole draw of something like Dragon Age or Baldur's Gate II for me is that i am the center... : dirge23
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          Who says you can't be the center of the story if there's coop? There are RPGs out there that limit coop t... : pyideThis person is cool!
          • yeah, you could have human players control your party members in BG2 iirc. but i have no interest in doin... : dirge23
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          Oh c'mon. The games are already party based. How could it NOT be better having a friend control a teamm... : DinKThis person is cool!
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            it's not an AI script, it's me, coordinating the whole party. with human players you've got a different t... : dirge23
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              Yeah you get to have fun discussing strategy and coordinating with them. And you ARE relying on AI scrip... : DinKThis person is cool!
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                in an RPG i just want to come up with my own tactics, i don't want everything to be discussed in committe... : dirge23
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                  It's a genre that also allows for much deeper teamwork, longer playthroughs, and a greater sense of adven... : DinKThis person is cool!
                  • i enjoyed neverwinter nights co-op, despite its problems : dirge23
      • agreed. : Dschinghis Khan
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        this is true, but the belief that no game would be improved with co-op is also fairly silly : verasThis person is cool!
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          of course. many games are better with co-op. many aren't. what i hate more is tacked-on multiplayer. ... : EvilDolemiteThis person is cool!
          • yeah, I agree (especially on those two examples, reminds me of the multiplayer tack-on in Metroid Prime 2... : verasThis person is cool!
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        STALKER Coop is enough to get my pants wet. : MercFox1
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          Can you imagine coming across a bandit camp and setting up some triangulation fire with your coop buddy? ... : tomservoThis person is cool!
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            Oh my goodness, stop. :S : MercFox1
            • I'm basically picturing an experience as engrossing as Left 4 Dead, but much more slow paced, detailed, a... : tomservoThis person is cool!
          • Bandit pigs. >:( Send them to hell I say. : deject
      • I don't think every game would be better, certain games would be, but not all of them. : jingletard
      • not every game would be better but playing something in coop mode is by far one of my favorite ways to pl... : Mr.SEX
      • Thank you! If someone fucked with Uncharted 2 and made it co-op the entire way through, I would have bee... : treefingers1This person is cool!
      • Maybe not any game, but certainly many of them. For somebody like me who plays most co-op stuff with lon... : DinKThis person is cool!
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        Thanks for letting us know you disapprove. Again. : omnovaThis person is cool!
        • hahahah : BullThis person is cool!
    • Singleplayer focus games with multiplayer almost always end up as some ho-hum deathmatch that nobody reme... : ZekThis person is cool!
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      HL2 had multiplayer, and it was fucking terrible. : maullaThis person is cool!
      • HL2:DM is awesome >:( : Durajim
      • You shut your filthy mouth! : eonix
      • It led to this though so it's not all bad: http://store.valvesoftware.com/productpages/apparel/product_HL... : pyideThis person is cool!
      • Don't make the throw a toilet at you : acheronThis person is cool!
    • I kind of like how torchlight is just single player. I think if they worked in multiplayer it would have... : Fish_BulbThis person is cool!
    • i like single player games a lot. it doesn't need to be mp in everything. : ibroknThis person is cool!
    • I would love to do Coop in Fallout 1/23, Farcry 2, STALKER, or The Witcher. : TehShadow
    • Dune 2 : t0adThis person is cool!
    • solitaire : honkfrog
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      there's the coop PS2 half-life : RikiTiki2
      • decay aint so fun =( : MoreVespeneGas
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      what ever happened to sven coop for hl2? I blame that mod for nobody else tackling the problem. : kaddar0
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        I think there was a mod by a different name that did this. : Robotic Puppy Eater
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          http://store.steampowered.com/app/17520/ : pyideThis person is cool!
          • WINNAH! : Robotic Puppy Eater
          • Synergy works great for playing through HL2 in co-op. I've played all the way through HL2, HL2: Ep1 and H... : joesnizzle