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    By: maulla This person is cool! x Show Full Post
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    This system is FINE.

    You have private servers that you can create on the fly. An intricate party/matchmaking system, on a more secure service preventing cheating.

    PC gamers need to stop complaining.
    Oct 20, 2009 10:28am PDT
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    This system is FINE. You have private servers that you can create on the fly. An intricate party/match... : maullaThis person is cool!

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      Way to not understand anything thats being lost here. It's clear you don't know what you're talking ab... : mexpakThis person is cool!
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        It's the front page, dude. No one needs to know what they're talking about. : zuff
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          Not that I agree with Maulla (I'm torn on this one) BUT I have to laugh at all the assumptions concerning... : wytefangThis person is cool!
          • Are there non front page articles? I've been following shacknews for 9+ years...and i've never looked bey... : kinnochThis person is cool!
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            Can we agree that a majority of trollish-attempted comments and dumbfounded remarks are made on front pag... : zuff
            • Yes! I just like to be a dink cause its fun when I am at work and bored on my ass. I'm not normally a ... : vHazardous
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              Not really. I've seen an equal amount in the chatties, too. This is just one of those Shack-empowered u... : wytefangThis person is cool!
              • Basically this. The shack comments system has turned into a circlejerk with with morning/evening discussi... : ghost in my shellThis person is cool!
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        oh nooooo, not shitty made community maps and servers that are N0 SN1P3RS 0r UAV : maullaThis person is cool!
        • Yes, you did really not understand what you were talking about. : trillex
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          Nobody forced you to play 'shitty made community' maps in COD4 or WaW either, there are TONS of servers t... : vHazardous
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            Oh, and FYI - $10 says IW will allow custom matches to be launched from their IW.NET service, allowing pe : maullaThis person is cool!
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              I'm sure you got a boner when host migration was unveiled. Guess what? PC gamers have never had to deal ... : mexpakThis person is cool!
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                the positives are listed in this very article, they're absolutely legitimate, and based on actual user fe... : derelict515This person is cool!
                • What about the usability of interrupted gameplay thanks to absolutely needless host migration? They ch... : mexpakThis person is cool!
                • i'd like to see these studies, were they just complaints made on the forum or angry emails from casual ga... : ballystix
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                I am still waiting for a legitimate complaint that is not addressed by a feature of matchmaking or is com... : maullaThis person is cool!
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                  Uninterrupted play! There, legitimacy. It's unnecessary, don't try and deflect that because you're wi... : mexpakThis person is cool!
                  • Yeah, sometimes a game gets dropped on Xbox Live because the host quits. Then, 20 seconds later, well wh... : haysoos
                • performance for big games (16x16) and host advantage : mallocThis person is cool!
                • Cheat protection is no better than it was with previous titles. You can't argue this point either, yer da... : vHazardous
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      fine? good luck playing 16v16 or more on a listen server and matchmaking on PC? ..what a joke : the.dyze
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        cod is not a 16v16 game. : maullaThis person is cool!
        • It certainly is on some servers. It definitely won't be anymore, though, not after this. : duffman03
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          16v16 does happen alot. But anywhere between 8v8 to 10v10 seems to be pretty normal on popular servers. : vHazardous
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            And on this service, it'll probably top out at 8v8, and even then, it'll be lag-tastic. : carbontree
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              Halo 3 seems to manage 16 person games without lag just fine. A few million people agree. : derelict515This person is cool!
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                I've experienced my fair share of lag on both Halo 3 and COD4 on the 360 in larger games. : carbontree
                • Then YOUR internet connection sucks, much like you such at life. I've had very little lag in big team ba... : haysoos
            • Why? You are a fucking idiot, xbox live games can go higher than 8v8, so you have no basis for your stat... : haysoos
          • Thats because ever after COD-UO the maps and modes have become smaller scale. : coyoterysThis person is cool!
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          CoD4 certainly was. : Vincent GraysonThis person is cool!
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            there might be 2 or 3 maps large enough to house a game of that size in cod4. people who play on those se... : maullaThis person is cool!
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              What's your point? If that's how people enjoyed the game (myself included), can you not understand how th... : Vincent GraysonThis person is cool!
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                fair enough, but for me it still doesnt change how amazing the game is going to be, even on IWnet : maullaThis person is cool!
                • It completely changes it, because it prevents us from having that experience at all. : carbontree
                • yah for YOU... which is why nobody cares what you say. : ssj4megamanThis person is cool!
              • It's called lacking empathy....or being an Asperger's Asshole ;) : carbontree
            • Your point? Why do you hate choice? : mexpakThis person is cool!
            • "those people don't deserve that option, quit complaining PC players" : atom519This person is cool!
        • I regularly play on a 32v32 server. : DynotakuThis person is cool!
        • Well obviously you didn't play on PC. At least try to study the situation before saying something, so yo... : silverback1138
    • says the console gamer. lulz. : registry_error
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      "on a more secure service preventing cheating. " LOL you really think so? About the only thing bein... : vHazardous
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        yeah console gamers just play every game with tons of lag and that's why millions play online there. Wait... : derelict515This person is cool!
        • Millions play on consoles because it's easy and cheap. To most mainstream gamers (which makes up a signif... : carbontree
        • Hold up there cowboy. There's a reason why console versions regularly are limited to a much smaller numb... : EdgesThis person is cool!
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      something tells me you weren't planning on picking it up for the pc : peatThis person is cool!
      • Just like CoD4, I will be getting it on PC and 360. : maullaThis person is cool!
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      Private servers don't bring to me what dedicated servers did (as far as I know). I understand that a ... : kinnochThis person is cool!
      • Honestly, I like your thinking. I hadn't thought of the communities and the impact of losing them! Ju... : lectR
      • ^^ this pretty much sums up my thoughts right here : lonepie
    • You obviously don't care about the other game modes, that doesn't mean other people don't. : atom519This person is cool!
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      The main problems are host advantage and lag. Also, when IWnet is down, you cannot play. I honestly d... : bgtpcg1
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        How the hell is it gimped because of lack of dedicated servers? : pun][sherThis person is cool!
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          Constant interruption when the host player leaves due to host migration? You're paying more (I was goi... : mexpakThis person is cool!
          • Constant interruption? Ha! Hosts don't leave THAT often and with built in Host migration shouldn't be a p... : pun][sherThis person is cool!
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          Because the horrible lag when IWnet inevitebly matches me with people from faraway places with shitty con... : bgtpcg1
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            Why don't you try out the matchmaking system before you start guessing it's going to fail. : pun][sherThis person is cool!
            • Is it going to be the best matchmaking system the world has ever seen? Probably not. It will probably be ... : Wisp!
          • Performance/lag is why I will never play a serious shooter on the PC without dedicated servers. I'll hors... : Dr_Cube
    • -a more slower method to enter and play the game. -a more random method to enter in a game with bad or g... : Turin TurambarThis person is cool!
    • A commenter on http://www.fourzerotwo.com/?p=745 disagrees: I want a server with my clans name on it, : the archvileThis person is cool!
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      I would never trade some private match created on IWnet's servers for community run and managed dedicated... : Dr_Cube
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        get stuffed lol apparantly youre not too old for video games with lingo like that servers full of r... : nova_xThis person is cool!
        • Stick to your consoles, nova_x. : Dr_Cube
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      You totally fail at understaning how dedicated servers work versus shared hosted aliases. : poopster2
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        you totally fail at understanding that this is not shared hosting but IW are hosting all the servers, jus... : HisKillSkill
        • nvm I'm retarded and they clearly stated it will be hosted on home connection, now I agree that sucks. : HisKillSkill
    • And can you tell me what happens when they stop hosting server? : bloodypalace
    • Are you really that dumb? Or just a viral marketer? : syn0rThis person is cool!
    • Console gamers need to stop thinking that making changes focused on a console-centric market does not mea... : Mr. Goodwrench
    • VAC doesnt garauntee a cheat-free system, i've seen cheaters invade tf2 games every now and then. : ballystix
    • More like"maulla"needs to STOP POSTING ABOUT THINGS HE HAS OBVIOUSLY HAVE ZERO CLUE ABOUT. : levente@speakeasy.net
    • Hold on a sec' while I stick my PC down your throat punk. : ableza