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    Isn't using steam for a game just another version of DRM? or did a misss something?
    Mar 24, 2009 9:04am PDT
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    Isn't using steam for a game just another version of DRM? or did a misss something? : kinnochThis person is cool!

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      That's how I see it. You've gotta log in to steam everytime you play. Offline mode doesn't work reliabl... : Pneum0This person is cool!
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        this is uhm... false? what game do you have that won't run offline? all 27 of my steam games run with my ... : brainchild420
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          Every time I go to a LAN party, something will fuck up. Even if I run the game to make sure it's patched,... : nodeThis person is cool!
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            you're doing it wrong. all 58 of my games, never had a problem. : DewFuel
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              I've never had a problem with off-line mode either. But just because I don't see a problem doesn't mean ... : CAPPINJACK
              • I've had issues using steam in offline mode multiple times - last one that happened we were going to play... : omen7288
            • In his defense, if it should work then he shouldn't be able to fuck it up so easily : SchnappleThis person is cool!
          • I feel your pain, but there is a reason this happens node. If you could find out how many people had L... : WTHInac
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        People need to learn to use Steam properly. : DewFuel
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          It's not a matter of people using it properly. It's fucking buggy as hell, that's not the users fault. : Pneum0This person is cool!
          • Psst! We are in 2009 btw. Steam has come a long way. : LukiopimpThis person is cool!
      • I hear you there. There's been 2 or 3 occassions when I lost my net connection and I couldn't get any of... : gokwyjibo
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      It is, and I consider it to be a far more invasive DRM. You can't lend a game to a friend, you can't sell... : ModulusThis person is cool!
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        I say false on the lending - I lend out my whole steam account to friends... Then again, not everyone is... : omen7288
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          I imagine that is against the terms of service. Besides which it means you can't play any of your games w... : nudelThis person is cool!
          • It is. And they can potentially disable your account, losing all your games. Apparently they are pretty... : gokwyjibo
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        I don't sell my old games, I just keep them or give them away. I don't see games as something to sell, yo... : FIGHTheSYSTM
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          I don't sell my games either, but there are a few problems here. As I said, you can't lend a game to a f... : ModulusThis person is cool!
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            I dont see how having a game purchased from steam and tied to my account as removing competition. That's ... : FIGHTheSYSTM
            • Well we are in disagreement. There are so many problems with consumer right in regards to Steam beyon : ModulusThis person is cool!
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        you know they can just log in to your steam account, right? think <-- [] : brainchild420
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          Two things, I'm not comfortable giving anyone full access to my accounts. Also If they are using your acc... : ModulusThis person is cool!
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            till they loose or scratch that disc : FIGHTheSYSTM
            • they could lose the O : RikiTiki2
        • First, it's against the terms of service. Second, if they play online and have some kind of cheat instal... : FpsnutThis person is cool!
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      Yes Steam is DRM, but one of the best versions of DRM on the market. I think when they say DRM is obselet... : FIGHTheSYSTM
      • I think when they say DRM is obsolete they're trying to pretend that Steam isn't DRM, and it seems to wor... : nudelThis person is cool!
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      It is another version of DRM, absolutely, and just goes to show how Gabe is un-educated about what DRM is... : WTHInac
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        They're not uneducated, they're smart. If you go around saying Steam is DRM, the people with an irrationa... : AlexW1203
        • I thought about that, thinking they were smart to not call it DRM - but if that is the case why draw any ... : WTHInac
      • I don't really think the digital copies should be any cheaper. Steam is convenient, less wasteful, and... : heartsauceThis person is cool!
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      steam is stupid. it won't let me connect to l4d servers when i'm offline. it's bullshit : TierNaNog
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        Why would you be "offline" and trying to connect "online" and be mad you couldn't? Are you 'lending' t... : dookiebot
        • You can't connect to a LAN server in offline mode through the UI, but you can do it in the console using ... : yourGarbageManThis person is cool!
      • TierNaNog 2 Suckers 0 : brainchild420