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    Sorry, I'm having a hard time feeling sympathy, as this excuse has been worn out by the likes of Crytek, Infinity Ward, and others. I realize the severity of the problems, but putting paying customers at a disadvantage by starting a DRM arms race is not the path to success.
    Aug 01, 2008 8:02pm PDT
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    Sorry, I'm having a hard time feeling sympathy, as this excuse has been worn out by the likes of Crytek, ... : the archvileThis person is cool!

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      If you were in his position, what would you have done differently? You do realize that other companies ha... : AroundTheFur1380
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        DRM isn't a magic solution. : aldraek
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          Neither is letting people steal games rampantly. DRM, when used correctly is a great solution. Not a ma... : IndigoAK
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            Great points. If you really think about it, DRM is there because companies feel that there's a need for ... : silverback1138
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              But just as there's an arms race for DRM, there's an equal race to crack it... the people that go through... : Jobos
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                I really don't see a solution to this, as DRM as it exists right now only troubles those who actually buy... : Gusty1This person is cool!
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                  The whole point behind DRM is to stop the pre-release or Day 0 piracy. They're not trying to stop the re : walker270This person is cool!
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                    exactly. it's probably why Mass Effect sold so well. The DRM in that was pretty good and while it created... : Shai-Tan
                    • ME sold well because it got rave reviews and Bioware has a strong PC community. : dedgecko
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                    I guess my whole beef with DRM is the idea that say a year or two from now I want to go back a replay the... : Gusty1This person is cool!
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                      I'm not aware of any company doing this that does not have a stated policy or contractual obligation to r... : navelskrutt
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                        Problem with stated policies are that they can change at any time. Like I said, all of a sudden they dec... : Gusty1This person is cool!
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                          You're arguing for intentional malice on the part of the developers. If you think a developer is just fuc... : navelskrutt
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                            I'm not saying the dev's are evil, they're human. A couple of years from now say the dev is gone and the... : Gusty1This person is cool!
                            • I have a very hard time believeing that a game developer would just close down without disabling DRM on t... : navelskrutt
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                        Yahoo Music just folded and announced they would be shutting down their DRM servers without reimbursing a : Agrona
                        • This is exactly the situation I don't want to get in. I see the game companies going more towards what t... : Gusty1This person is cool!
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                  I've always thought the concept of building executables to only recognize a single key would be a great s... : IndigoAK
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                    That would be an unimaginable pain in the ass for pressed optical media. Changing the die, quality check... : MamiyaOtaru
                    • I really enjoyed playing VBS2 for a few weeks, but then I had to let her go. :-( Never seen a game that a... : Zolneirz
            • Except... I think we've probably already passed the line where it has become a more significant deterrent... : lolife.se
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            And I guess when I borrow my friend's copy of Halo, after he finishes it, I'm stealing games rampantly. T... : aldraek
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              Can you borrow your friend's movie ticket and see the movie for free? There's always going to be an is... : navelskrutt
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                I still don't see why software should be treated any differently than say a book. If I buy a book I can ... : Gusty1This person is cool!
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                  The difference is that it doesn't cost $10M to write a book so the incentive is far lower to impose a mor... : navelskrutt
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                    I'm talking staight laws here. First use stuff. Computer software is specifically excluded. Lets b... : Gusty1This person is cool!
                    • But games aren't a physical product either, they just happened to be transmitted on physical media. If yo... : navelskrutt
              • I guess the next step will be if I went over to my friend's house to even SEE the game and it will be ste... : aldraek
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              Twisted logic there. You can borrow your friend's copy of Halo, but only when he's done with it when the ... : nudelThis person is cool!
              • yeah, you lend someone a game, at least one purchase was made and dev made money on that.. and all that n... : paranos
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                It's also Twisted logic to say that every customer that pirates is a lost sale. Not everyone who pirates ... : aldraek
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                  Indeed, which is why I never said that and, as far as I've seen, *nobody* has said that in this entire pa... : nudelThis person is cool!
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                    I ignored what you said because your original statement was full of baseless speculation, just like mine.... : aldraek
                    • Renting is legal, sends some money to the game devs/pubs, and is limited by a fixed number of physical co... : nudelThis person is cool!
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                      And WTF was baseless speculation, or even speculation, about what I said? The phrase "baseless specula... : nudelThis person is cool!
                      • nudel for president :) : paranos
          • Pass the bong, dude. : FreonThis person is cool!
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      ..Devlopers don't owe us anything. We arent entittled to games. If we don't like what they've done with... : .neo0.st|es
      • We give them money, they treat us like thieves. How dare I think they OWE me a trouble free game exper... : three-dThis person is cool!