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    the burnout guys seem to be pretty defensive about their game after all the demo criticisms.
    http://criteriongames.com/burnout/paradise/demo/merrychristmas/

    Dec 20, 2007 11:59pm PST
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    the burnout guys seem to be pretty defensive about their game after all the demo criticisms. http://cri... : pyideThis person is cool!

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    • Emphasis with caps doesn't bother me when i'm reading stuff on here, but on a professional website it rea... : qwpeoriuThis person is cool!
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      I found it fun. Its a game where the sole purpose is to crash into other cars...people are actually expec... : VegasX
      • Yeah people just seem to expect it to suck for some reason. I loved it, and I am definitely getting it. : nomaadThis person is cool!
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        depth is a varied notion. Most apparently simple games which are very fun have a depth to their simpli... : sevenThis person is cool!
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          again, the point of the game is to crash as much as possible. lol : VegasX
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            No it's not. Have you ever even played Burnout? That's not remotely the goal. It's a racing game. A... : Chris Remo
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              Well thats how I play it. Its a racing game where you get bonuses for crashing through billboards, gettin... : VegasX
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                None of the things you said are responding to anything I said. It's a racing game. I didn't say it's a ... : Chris Remo
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                  It's not a racing game in the same context that Forza or PGR may be. For instance, I dont play Forza ... : VegasX
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                    Are you even reading my posts? I'll say it yet again: I am not claiming it is a racing game in the same ... : Chris Remo
                    • admittedly not having played the first Burnout, you are correct. I am only repeating myself because it se... : VegasX
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                burnout is very much an arcade racer, keyword here is race. the majority of the game is still racing agai... : pyideThis person is cool!
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                  sure and I get that aspect. But from my understand in Paradise the "racing" aspect is not longer necessar... : VegasX
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                    all the other stuff in paradise that's not racing came about from their decision to make it an open world : pyideThis person is cool!
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                      Well sure I mean you absolutely will have to race to gain upgrades or new cars and paint jobs or unlock o... : VegasX
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                        "But like you mentioned going as fast as you can, trying not to crash while trying to take out your buddi : Chris Remo
                        • No it isnt, not at all. The point of an FPS (usually) is to stay alive by all means necessary. There are ... : VegasX
                  • I think that is what everyone hates. The fact that the racing has taken a back seat to the (frankly borin... : marmiteThis person is cool!
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                  Not to mention, crash mode wasn't even in the original Burnout. Burnout started as a racing game series,... : Chris Remo
                  • To be honest, I never played the first burnout. I only played Burnout:Revenge and I loved it because I wa... : VegasX
            • eh...kinda. Forza 2 is a racing game. This is (was?) an arcad-y driving game with several different mod... : YoYoThis person is cool!
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        How on earth are you interpreting the criticisms as calling for "depth"? What does that even mean? If... : Chris Remo
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          after playing the demo, i'd say i like the way online play is done so much more than sitting in a lobby, ... : pyideThis person is cool!
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            I've seen a demo of it and as far as I know you specify a start and endpoint, and then it generates a rou... : Chris Remo
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              On its wiki article: Multiple settings have been confirmed to be fully customisabl6][7]such as: ... : pwnage1232
              • 16 checkpoints? that is awesome. you could make some really epic races. i was fearing for a while it woul... : pyideThis person is cool!
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                can wikipedia be trusted here? i seriously can't stop pumping cum, but the [7] source leads to an ign ... : pyideThis person is cool!
                • well i listened to it- their podcast says you can save 10 of your own custom routes}t]b, complete with th... : pyideThis person is cool!
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          Why is my junk getting jumped on about a game that, for the most part, is about crashing, and getting poi... : VegasX
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            Who is calling for elaborate single-player story lines, NPCs with backstories, and worlds filled with mag... : Chris Remo
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              When I talk about those who are calling for more "depth" or unicorns with drug dependencies and shady his... : VegasX
              • err everyone who has talked to be, personally, not *everyone* as in Earth : VegasX
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                Like I said in the other post, fine, you can play Burnout however you want. This is true for every game.... : Chris Remo
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                  I was being facetious in my original statement, as we both know sarcasm or tongue in cheek doesn't always... : VegasX
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                    I understand you were exaggerating but again the things that you were exaggerating were completely out of... : Chris Remo
                    • Well yeah it's not beneficial to be taken out or total your car (though it's still fun imo). No I dont de... : VegasX
      • No, but most of us would expect a sequel to be better than previous iterations, rather than fucking up so... : Vincent GraysonThis person is cool!
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      Lol "The lack of retry really isn't an issue." It's the reason I'm not buying it. I can't see anything... : marmiteThis person is cool!
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        there's a whole paragraph about showtime mode near the bottom. it's pretty hilarious. and while their... : pyideThis person is cool!
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          I wonder why retrying would necessitate loading. Can't they just teleport you across the map. maybe it'll... : marmiteThis person is cool!
          • it's all about the engine & how the data is streamed probably. i have zero knowledge in this area thus no... : pyideThis person is cool!
      • I don't see why they couldn't go middle of the road like NFS:MW did. Their hardline dedication to an imm... : pwnage1232
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      This is incredibly childish and adds one more reason I don't want to buy the game anymore. : Begawkiness
      • I liked the GAME and thus will be buying the GAME. I may not like what the DEVELOPER is saying but then a... : gakeraThis person is cool!
    • Even as a big fan of the Burnout series and as someone definitely picking up Paradise on day 1, that whol... : pwnage1232
    • that guy sounds like a fucking ass. how dare people criticise your game! : erotic sock
    • No crash mode? :( I really liked playing party crash with 3 or 4 folks. Watching each other hammer th... : YoYoThis person is cool!
    • as they mention TDU i really hope they do another TDU game. that was really fun (even more so with the ha... : CoRDSThis person is cool!
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      I'm glad they have worked hard to eliminate loading. The long loading times of Revenge prevented me from ... : filthysockThis person is cool!
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        They made it worse though. Where as before you could keep trying the burning laps if you fucked up (and t... : marmiteThis person is cool!
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          OUCH :( Ok it appears they are using the same segment-loading technique from revenge then. Where they str... : filthysockThis person is cool!
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            from that article "The demo was made AFTER work on Paradise was completed, so no, we won't be using inter... : marmiteThis person is cool!
            • If the sales figures suck they will patch. Unlikely tho, the brand is pretty powerful. : filthysockThis person is cool!
            • Awesome asshole apostrophe usage from them too, ahahahaha : pwnage1232
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      The sooner they get this game out of the way, the sooner i will have a sequel to Black. : Drewus
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        holy fuckity fuck yes YES YES YOU HEAR THIS YOU FUCKS?! THIS DREWUS CHARACTER KNOWS WTF : scottythejock
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          Seriously, that game was so awesomely mindlessly fun. I don't even know wtf it was about, all i know is t... : Drewus
          • it was definitely very goldeneye-ish, I have a boner just talking about this. umm.. I'm gay for black : scottythejock
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          Sign me up to this fuckity fuck fuck fest please. I want to shoot REALLY loud guns to create REALLY FUCKI... : nodebug
          • Best gun sounds in a game evar! RATATATATATATATATATATATATA KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMM!!! RATATATAT... : Drewus
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        I could never get into black... wait a minute I've said this to you before http://www.shacknews.com/la... : marmiteThis person is cool!
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          while the unskippable cut-scenes were eye-clawingly annoying, the rest of your "points" were ignored comp... : scottythejock
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            are you denying that it often took 2-3 clips to kill guys? That the ammo was VERY scarce? that the game s... : marmiteThis person is cool!
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              heathen. : scottythejock
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                your in denial. : marmiteThis person is cool!
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                  you're. : scottythejock
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                    ewe too just settle down : filthysockThis person is cool!
                    • this is getting rediculous : Drewus
                  • :) : marmiteThis person is cool!
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              so, so wrong in every way : jcupittThis person is cool!
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                oh yeah, well I don't think I am. : marmiteThis person is cool!
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                  oh yeah?? : jcupittThis person is cool!
                  • yeah. so there. : marmiteThis person is cool!
      • You mean a pretty and loud but otherwise utterly derivative shooter with a worthless story and repetitive... : nodeThis person is cool!
      • yes please. One of the most entertaining shooters I've played the last few years. : SilverSnakeThis person is cool!
    • Oh man. Talk about a poor way to react. Calling it 'feedback', criticising the spelling in the letters th... : nodeThis person is cool!
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      What a horrible way to react to your fans and/or buyers. : Maarten GoldsteinThis person is cool!
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        "The lack of retry really isn't an issue. You may disagree, but we don't feel it is" That really reads... : marmiteThis person is cool!
        • "We don't care what you think." : dirge23
        • i laughed at that too. "you have criticism? it doesn't apply here. move along." great argument. : FrayLoThis person is cool!
    • "(when not too distracted by all the bad spelling in all of the letters we receive". Seriously - what a l... : jbury
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      because this new Burnout is an experience that YOU choose how to play rather than us forcing a game struc : jrockThis person is cool!
      • to me, it sounds awesome for online play though, which is where the longevity has been in the past two b... : pyideThis person is cool!
    • Obviously the lack of retry is an issue or else the feedback wouldn't indicate it is. Since they don't th... : .ka`boom.zZz.