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    Somebody should send these guys a few copies of Bioshock.
    Sep 14, 2007 2:33pm PDT
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    Somebody should send these guys a few copies of Bioshock. : ArBThis person is cool!

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      Which I believe was a modified Unreal Engine 2.0 game and I think was in production for 5 or so years. N... : GeorgeB3DRThis person is cool!
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        they switched to 3.0 : UnleashedThis person is cool!
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          Not really, they use some code from UE3, but not the entirety of it. : Kristian Joensen
          • Not to mention, unlike SK, Irrational already had Unreal engine experience with SWAT 4 (was Tribes:Vengea... : BorzoiThis person is cool!
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        The damage to ArB caused by GeorgeB3DR misconduct was manifest, because Shacknews attendees were able to ... : ArBThis person is cool!
        • dude, you're a jerk -- hahahahaa! : dedgecko
        • LoL. Nice. : PettytheftThis person is cool!
        • Lol, * L E G A L E S E ' D * : silentw
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        I thought they switched to 3.0? DNF still running on a heavily modified UE2.0? : dedgecko
        • Well since you asked about DNF, here are some GB quotes I have collected regarding the engine, George is : Kristian Joensen
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        George is right though, it's a heavily modified UE2.5. A few 2K dev team members have said this. You can... : ArBThis person is cool!
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          Ugh no, it uses Unreal Engine 3. They've said this numerous times on their forums. If it used 2.5 it wo... : rastafar1an
          • Quote from Wikipedia, that gives sources that Ken says Unreal 3.0 BioShock was initially developed usi... : rastafar1an
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            "If it used 2.5 it would have accepted shader model 2.0." That is VERY faulty reasoning since nobody i... : Kristian Joensen
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              MOH:A which also uses UT3 didn't support SM 3.0. : rastafar1an
              • So ? If a game doesn't support SM2 then it uses UE3 ? That is really bad logic. : Kristian Joensen
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          "A few 2K dev team members have said this" I would love some quotes, because I see this oversimplifica... : Kristian Joensen
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            http://360.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=7461&pg=3 AMN: Speaking of the graphics engine, it's runni... : rastafar1an
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              I already know about that quote, hence me saying that Ken was confusing the issue. Considering that in ve... : Kristian Joensen
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                Most developers usually modify the engine that they use. I think it's just as relevant as all other UE3 ... : rastafar1an
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                  Uh, you still don't understand. Most of the engine that BioShock uses is from the heavily modified UE2 en... : gabrobot
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                    I perfectly understand. I have gone into the directory and its immediately obvious that it uses the UE3 ... : rastafar1an
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                      You clearly don't understand, because the point is that the engine is mostly Irrational's not UE2 or UE3.... : gabrobot
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                        No you clearly dont understand because the issue wasn't the engine but the inability of Silicon Knights t... : rastafar1an
                        • "Their own needs"...you mean an engine that actually runs? :P : gabrobot
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                      You have no idea what you are talking about. And that article about helping epics image for UE3 is bogus... : ease oneThis person is cool!
                      • So you don't think Irrational Games won't influence people into using UE3?.... : rastafar1an
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            I think the confusion might be people (myself included) reading quotes from old interviews. They built it... : ArBThis person is cool!
            • It's not your fault, I've seen this misconception all over the place. : rastafar1an