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    Wow, gamers have to be the bitchiest, most self entitled group of people on the net. If something doesn't work exactly how they figure it should they immediately declare a jihad.
    Aug 22, 2007 12:20pm PDT
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    Wow, gamers have to be the bitchiest, most self entitled group of people on the net. If something doesn't... : Fred GarvinThis person is cool!

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      Sure, it's their design decision but that doesn't mean people can't voice their opinion of not liking it.... : vynnThis person is cool!
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        Criticism is one thing. The ridiculous ranting and conspiracy accusations are just asinine. : Fred GarvinThis person is cool!
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          Wait a minute, are we self-entitled bitches or ranting conspiracy theorists? :) : vynnThis person is cool!
          • A little from column A, a little from column B. : Fred GarvinThis person is cool!
    • darn tootin, and thats how w likes it! : tunis5000This person is cool!
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      Ya seriously guys. 2k has come down from heaven to present you with with the best game ever made, and you... : S1ing B1adeThis person is cool!
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        It is widescreen smartass. You know if no one ever saw the 4:3 version this wouldn't even be an issue. Th... : Fred GarvinThis person is cool!
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          No, it's narrowscreen, the poor dismembered ghetto stepchild abomination from hell. : S1ing B1adeThis person is cool!
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            So who did you read "narrowscreen" from? I'm guessing this will become a staple in your posts from now o... : walker270This person is cool!
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              Actually I haven't seen anyone use that term yet, but I think it is quite appropriate and catchy. I'll go... : S1ing B1adeThis person is cool!
              • Haha I like your posts :) : carazy
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          Fred, it's the same fucking problem that Halo 2 had. If you played a game with a 65 FOV or a 55 FOV or... : abrasionThis person is cool!
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            I've never adjust FOV in a game, ever and somehow I have played every major PFS and most of the minor one... : Fred GarvinThis person is cool!
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              So because you never cared, there's no need for FOV adjustment? Okay then. : Matt BurrisThis person is cool!
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                Why waste time on a feature that most gamers won't use is my point. I am pretty sure if you did a survey ... : Fred GarvinThis person is cool!
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                  So we should get rid of AA and AF, too? They benefit the gamer, but not everyone knows or cares about it... : Matt BurrisThis person is cool!
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                    These posts are getting more and more amazing as the night wears on... : walker270This person is cool!
                    • We must have FOV adjustments or we will all die a horrible flaming death. : Fred GarvinThis person is cool!
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                    AA and AF change visual quality, the settings are included in the normal menus and most games these days ... : Fred GarvinThis person is cool!
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                      Uhm, how do you think AA and AF started? Do you think they put the option in games when it first became ... : Matt BurrisThis person is cool!
                      • ^^^^^^^^^^^^ : abrasionThis person is cool!
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                        Okay, then. FOV has been a feature since day one of FPS games. Why is it still not a standard option? May... : Fred GarvinThis person is cool!
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                          That's a really poor argument Fred. THIS is why it's a problem. http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=1... : abrasionThis person is cool!
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                            Give me a break. I am not going to trust some "forum guy" to give me an analysis of visual perception. Sh... : Fred GarvinThis person is cool!
                            • Oh for fucks sake, it's pretty straight forward you don't need a rocket scientist to point this out to yo... : abrasionThis person is cool!
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                          Reread the second paragraph. I answered the question already. : Matt BurrisThis person is cool!
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                            That's your opinion. If a dev feels a game is better at a different FOV that is up to them. Don't like it... : Fred GarvinThis person is cool!
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                              It's not preference, it's being done INCORRECTLY for 16:10 at least, if not 4:3 too. : abrasionThis person is cool!
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                                Oh god. : tigeNThis person is cool!
                                • No, I am right on this, period. : abrasionThis person is cool!
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                          My theory is that it started with Halo where they reduced the FOV to make it a little easier to aim with ... : vynnThis person is cool!
                          • Or maybe the devs decided that it was the FOV that best suited the game. : ColoradoCNC
                    • It's not a normal option because most developers don't fuck it up and use stupid settings? : vynnThis person is cool!
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          X360 gamers = casual gamers. Of course they wouldn't complain if they don't know what they're missing. ... : Matt BurrisThis person is cool!
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            ... and here with go with this line again! : walker270This person is cool!
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              Okay, not all of them are casual, but by far most of them are. That better, or you want to stick with de... : Matt BurrisThis person is cool!
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                How many shackers played it on the 360 first and didn't complain? Damn, I guess they're all casual too. ... : walker270This person is cool!
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                  It's obvious walker that you're tired of the whiners and amount of complaints going into this. I can't... : abrasionThis person is cool!
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                    abrasion, you are either with us or against us. PICK A SIDE. : S1ing B1adeThis person is cool!
                    • lol : abrasionThis person is cool!
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                    Most of my comments are directed at the people claiming it's not real widescreen, and that they're using ... : walker270This person is cool!
                    • Well then really, you're arguing about 2 diff things, the FOV is the real issue. : abrasionThis person is cool!
                • The fact that they chose the console version of the game means that they are fine with the gamepad, but f... : Matt BurrisThis person is cool!
                • console FPS gamers are used to stuff like Halo which also uses a neutered FOV : vynnThis person is cool!
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                That's true but most PC gamers are casual too I think : vynnThis person is cool!
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                  Yea, but most aren't playing top-of-the-line FPS games like BioShock. They're playing PopCap and GameHou... : Matt BurrisThis person is cool!
                  • There's that but I have a suspicion the majority of people picking up BioShock are not PC gaming enthusia... : vynnThis person is cool!
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            Please, give it a rest. Casual gamer, my ass. : Fred GarvinThis person is cool!
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              I see, well you convinced me with that argument. Thanks! : Matt BurrisThis person is cool!
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                Would you classify all the people that own a 360 on the Shack as casual then? : Fred GarvinThis person is cool!
                • Oh, and really, this whole issue will never even reach most of the people that play the game. Just the ha... : Fred GarvinThis person is cool!
          • lol...I wish we could all be as "l33t" as you : ColoradoCNC
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      On the one hand, yes, that's true, but on the other hand, I can't play Halo 2 MP cause the FOV is so redi... : DynotakuThis person is cool!
      • ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : abrasionThis person is cool!
      • Then people should be complaining about the narrow FOV. It's not really anything specific to widescreen. ... : tigeNThis person is cool!
      • Uh, shut up you're wrong! Why add those settings for the personal enjoyment of the few when ME AND MOST ... : IrN00btastic
    • Exactly, suck it up guys. It's not that big of a deal. Enjoy the game.. quit being so picky. : slip42o
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      Right said, Fred. : Rich McNinchThis person is cool!
      • Climbin' up the ladder... : crummynzThis person is cool!