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  Something tells me Chris wouldnt report on something like this unless he had it under good authority. : warcrow
  • He's trollling!! : Visceral Monkey
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    What authority? Everyone who has left, including Wieder recently, said it was because they were seeking o... : avatar_58
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      Between you and me, one of us has most likely talked to a bunch of reputable sources very very recently. : Chris Remo
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        Reliable how? Cite them then, otherwise don't post FUD. As George has said countless times: If he doesn't... : avatar_58
        • Are you not familiar with how news works? Sometimes sources request to remain anonymous, and we have to ... : Chris Remo
        • A reporter never reveals his sources if they don't want to be revealed. : freshyk
        • his refusal to name his sources doesn't invalidate his reporting. if the shack is confident enough to rep... : Supine
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          Do not question The Remo. : omnova
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            This kind of mentality is kind of depressing. I've always been of the opinion that everything should be q... : famine101
            • I was being facetious, but if you questioned everything you would trust nothing. : omnova
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              Yeah but the fact is that teh remo has already established credablity with us, and isn't likely to go off... : re-verse
              • Oh I agree. I'm just saying that regardless of the reporter, not citing sources reduces your story's cred : famine101
        • ...I remember someone defending Daikatana like this when everyone started to leave that project as well. ... : warcrow
    • Other interests, like say, actually shipping a game? : beansniffles
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      why would so many suddenly seek other interests if the project was going swimmingly? : Maarten Goldstein
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        Why not? Do you like working at the same company for 10 years on the same project? I don't blame wieder f... : avatar_58
        • because people who worked at the company in question would have a little better information than your fri... : -Panther-
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        I don't think my example will be the actual reason, but could it not be: Project is nearing completion... : MatthewPhillips
        • That could be too. Really until George answers we're shooting in the dark here. : avatar_58
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        Most great games don't go swimmingly. And in fact most companies lose a various amount of their talent af... : italiano3d
        • devalue* damn typos. : italiano3d
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          Coming up on 10 years. For one game. That isn't right : j33uk
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            Uhhh Prey was 10 years. Its done. : avatar_58
            • Not 10 consecutive years at the same developer with the same team. Hell, even the early Prey team walked ... : freshyk
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              No, Human Head started that game several years ago. Prey literally completely stopped, then started over... : Chris Remo
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                As did DNF. Its only been in the works after the 2001 version was cancelled. For more info go look at duk... : avatar_58
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                  So DNF wasn't being worked on before the 2001 version was produced and cancelled? Uh... : Serpico74
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                    There was that little Quake 2-engined version... : guido anchovy
                    • And the Unreal engine version that didn't just materialize out of thin air... : Serpico74
                • Thanks, I'd never heard that before. : Chris Remo
              • prey stopped twice. : italiano3d
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            prey, team fortress 2? : italiano3d
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              I doubt those were in continuous development. : Longinus00
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                And neither was DNF technically. It was restarted twice, but the full dev cycle is just as long as TF2 an... : avatar_58
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                  So they don't count as man hours lost? : j33uk
                  • No they do not. Ever heard of cabal development? : italiano3d
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                team fortress 2 has been from what i understand in constant iteration development. Of course of it came v... : italiano3d
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                  So what the hell has 3DR being doing if not working full on DNF? : j33uk
                  • Playing World of Warcraft like everyone else. : roushimsx
                  • 3dr does alot more then just work on duke. They also oversee alot of other projects consultation wise i b... : italiano3d
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                    Max Payne, Max Payne 2, helping companies like Ritual, Remedy, Prey, etc etc etc. Just because its not de... : avatar_58
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                      how much did they actualy do on those games though? Do you have exact figures/general idea of anything th... : spdon
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                        No do you? Thats the point. Everyone here just assumes everything. : italiano3d
                        • Yes that is my point, where as we know they have been working on DNF as a primary project for 10 years...... : spdon
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                  What you smokin? TF2 has nothing to do with TF2 we saw all those years ago, from the vids it looks like T... : spdon
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                    TF2 of then has as much to do with todays TF2 as 98's DNF has to do with todays DNF. : avatar_58
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                      No one has seen todays DNF in action... And there is such a thing as man hours, DNF has been constantly i... : spdon
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                        Put on hold? TF2 was never 'put on hold'. TF2 had a media blackout after certain gametypes were liberated... : italiano3d
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                          oh please...... : spdon
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                            Don't like the truth? : italiano3d
                            • HE CAN'T HANDLE IT!!!! : warcrow
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                              Yes because I am the one claiming DNF hasn't been a royal fuck up so far. : spdon
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                                The only fuck up in my opinionw as announcing the game years ago if ever at all. Perfectionist developers... : italiano3d
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                                  lol...... how much are they paying you? : spdon
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                                    You know you like to make alot of accusations at people who disagree with you. I'm looking at it from a d... : italiano3d
                                    • That you took that on face value says everything. : spdon
                                • Agreed. George has already stated this many times, they regret showing DNF at all.....because it only fue... : avatar_58
                    • The difference is that what TFC, released in 1999, was what TF2 was planned to be back in 1997 (back when : Bold
                  • No shit. Perhaps you need to go read some valve interviews about the process and the reasons WHY it doesn... : italiano3d
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                    But the process of getting to where they are now does count as development time. Experiementing with game... : Serpico74
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                      It was a side project that was essentially cancelled a during the development of HL2, It is now TFC2007, ... : spdon
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                        your incorrect and merely speculating. You know not what your talking about now my freind =) : italiano3d
                        • That you are even comparing the development of TF2 to DNF just sets of fanboy alarms so I'm out of this a... : spdon
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                        From what I've read there were something like three other versions of TF2 made between 99 and now. That's : Serpico74
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                          going back to the drawing board isn't reallly it. Valve and a few other develoeprs notably blizzard make ... : italiano3d
                          • That's pretty much what I've been saying this whole thread. You're not the only guy who's read the art... : Serpico74
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          Could the Duke Nukem IP be any more devalued than it is? What possible value could a 10 year old game hol... : Delusional
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            Yes actually. Game comes out sucks majorly IP majorly devalued. Or game comes out and is classic duke wit... : italiano3d
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              DNF, no matter how good it is, will probably be blasted for not being the second coming of christ. I don'... : avatar_58
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                I agree but I'm just looking at it froma scott miller perspective, heh. He's very big on increasing the ... : italiano3d
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                  To me its sad really. All this time and devotion to one game....only to have it blasted for not being rus... : avatar_58
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                    Again I agree. : italiano3d
                    • are you guys working for 3Drealms? : spdon
                  • If a 10 year development time counts as "not rushed", then what does hl2 episodes come in as? Blink of an... : Longinus00
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                I think it's more blasted already BECAUSE 3DR are so friggin uptight about it. just finish the goddamn... : thebigbeefsandwich
                • How do you expect them to react? Should they hype up the current build and features only to have to say "... : avatar_58
              • They could have done that in 3 years. So yeah, it better be the second coming. : Peace frog
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  put the video of you eating your keyboard on youtube, k? : grendel
  • I will. If DNF is cancelled, I'll eat my keyboard. You have my word ;) : avatar_58
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  lol. Keep your fanboy crap at the 3drealms forums please. : rasputinreborn
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    Yeah, because I can't claim anything wrong with shacknews without being a fanboy. Perhaps you need to loo... : avatar_58
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      You're impugning the integrity of Chris Remo, who has thus far never given us reason to doubt him. He mak... : UtilityMaximizer
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        Thank you very much for stalking me sir, as if that had any bearing on the matter to begin with. For your... : avatar_58
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          I hardly think following a link you posted consists of stalking. : Jonathan
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            Really? I could turn around cite your shacknews posts as "bias" towards whatever shacknews writes. The po... : avatar_58
            • My, aren't you just the little rampaging bundle of fury. Waging war against the questioners of DNF. You s... : Jonathan
        • Dude, I'm a stalker. Utility is more like a hunter. : FushigiDenki
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          lol. So you are not a DNF fanboy but you posted 10,000+ posts in their forums and the post were not even... : chuck577
          • See those other sections? The general games, software, hardware, general, fnord? Its called a forum, look... : avatar_58
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          My point was that when choosing between the two of you, Mr. Remo seems to me the obvious choice for gamin... : UtilityMaximizer
          • Yeah, and if this turns out false, I call dibs on the wishbone. : rasputinreborn
          • And UMax is capable of the most interesting ways of destroying you. Never fuck with a PhD in Envronmenta... : themelon
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          Guys take it easy, we're looking here at a man, that played D3D during his teenage years, and based on hi... : ErneX
          • That actually made me laugh, hehe :D No, I'm 20 and I've been around the net with this nick for quite som... : avatar_58
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        Soon he will have 10,000 posts on Shacknews and your point will be moot sir! : Johnny Law
        • Only if he becomes a reputable gaming journalist! : UtilityMaximizer
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  This thread reminds me of Christians who say "Prove to me that God doesn't exist!" to atheists or agnosti... : Tawler
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    One word: Dinosaurs. : Sifer
    • Dinosaurs..?! :o : Micki93