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Todd H. On Q3 v125

by Steve Gibson, Sep 25, 2000 5:33pm PDT

Related Topics – id software, Quake 3 Arena

Todd Hollenshead that CEO kinda guy (and a little bastard in CTF) from id Software has a lengthy .plan update talking even more about the v125beta point release that id released. Its pretty lengthy and he addresses the majority of questions people have had, although there isnt much along the lines of new info:

We want to reiterate that 1.25 is a beta release. We're looking for feedback from those people who don't mind providing it. We will be addressing many of the issues that have been reported over the last few days, and are planning another beta point release in the very near future [...] We are working on a fix that would return the "feel" of rocket jumping and strafe jumping to the original release, while still "fixing" the bug in the .qvm builds. [...]

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I am so fed up with all your pettiful whining about Q3A. If you all know so well how how make a good a good multiplayer game, please do so or shut the f*ck up! It's soo easy to critize something. Q3A is the best multiplayer FPS there is, damnit.

Sep 26, 2000 5:50am PDT

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ROFL, now this patch is a "beta"?

LOL!

Sep 26, 2000 10:19am PDT

ROFL, now this patch is a "beta"? LOL! : daggah

#128

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Can anyone tell me how to get the Quake 3 announcer to say 'Holy shit'? hmmm....anyone?

Sep 26, 2000 12:27am PDT

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you know what sucks worst of all in 1.25?
-demos of previous versions don't work - that's the biggest shit ever. i have tons of demos. that hurts bad.
-strafe jumping dead - any newbie can press a key to walk forward, why can't i move faster if i have the skillz?
-lightning gun with only 50 ammo - thought there hardly was enough ammo. should spew some more plasma...
-overall not compatible with 1.17, i guess. so better don't install that crap.

Sep 26, 2000 12:55am PDT

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  - i play mostly on lans... my connection sucks too bad. however, the broken demo support is my biggest pr... : pirx

#133

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steve, do you still use 1.17 or that 1.25 crap?

Sep 26, 2000 1:20am PDT

steve, do you still use 1.17 or that 1.25 crap? : pirx

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As someone who knows absolutely nothing about the game design process I can tell you with almost utmost certainty that this game is lacking in Technical Management. Wrap-up. Finis. This means leadership on a design process from beginning, but much more on the back end final product. Carmack is a programmer god and his crew are daring-duo-demi-deities, but someone really needs to take the rein and put their work in a package and lead them in a direction. I do not doubt their remarkable capabilities however I do question whoever said "It's time for this thing to ship. Handing off the package to activision is not a solution because while they might have a competant QA department they almost certainly are most concerned with quick delivery of said package.

These point releases are pure embarrassment and it is seemingly showing in their sales, as it's apparent that UT, even with it's many point releases, has pretty much kept it's community happy, minus the purty lack of s3 TC support.

I understand their ability to recognize the misnomer that it's impossible to please everybody but when quality and reputation suffer at the expense of a patch or new $pack$ add-on, dis-illusionment with fanbase is evident.

Indeego, Fanboy of Quality.

Sep 25, 2000 9:20pm PDT

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head switch thing doesnt seem to be working?

Sep 25, 2000 8:40pm PDT

head switch thing doesnt seem to be working? : slayn420

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- Try this one, it's located in California. irc.prison.net Or this one's in New York irc.lightnin... : SlimJim

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i wonder what i'll do all day now that im out of school

Sep 25, 2000 8:03pm PDT

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      i dunno, just being around other ppl doesnt do it for me. pisses me off more than anything that i dont t... : depression
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on second thought, q2dm8 was also a great map.

Sep 25, 2000 7:36pm PDT

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Night guys I have to get ready for Kollege at 6AM :( Masterbate well tonight and please don't poke your eyes out! :)

Sep 25, 2000 7:58pm PDT

Night guys I have to get ready for Kollege at 6AM :( Masterbate well tonight and please don't poke your ... : MarksmanX

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Ya know, it turns out that Q3 is not a bad game. Tried it the other day and had a lot more fun than I recall having with the demos. Great graphics, nice gameplay, good action.

Don't get me wrong -- I'm still a UT fanboy. But I will miss taking sides in the Q3 vs. UT wars.

This pisses me off:
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-2864971.html?tag=st.ne.1002.thed.ni

Sep 25, 2000 6:09pm PDT

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im interested in this threewave shit. i smell huge detailed maps and the return of the grapple. of course i may be gone by the time it comes out.

Sep 25, 2000 7:43pm PDT

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b00f, 100

Sep 25, 2000 7:43pm PDT

b00f, 100 : Polish Sausage

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q2 gameplay mighta been slow, but q2dm1 was a great map.

Sep 25, 2000 7:35pm PDT

q2 gameplay mighta been slow, but q2dm1 was a great map. : Polish Sausage

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I like the new feel of 1.25. I wish they would leave it the hell alone!!

Sep 25, 2000 7:17pm PDT

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Heh could someone post that ihv I wanna download it again and mess around...

Sep 25, 2000 7:34pm PDT

Heh could someone post that ihv I wanna download it again and mess around... : ghost in my shell

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For what it's worth, I also love the new feel, and i know people that started off hating it, that have played it some more and now like it. You have to give it a chance.

I know I've posted this link before, and some have you have seen it, but I'm posting it again because I think you should all read this before you go telling id what you want...

http://www.xsreality.com/?action=forums&forum_id=1&forum_post_id=4225

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Sep 25, 2000 7:24pm PDT

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http://www.bluesnews.com/files/idstuff/quake3/win32/q3pointrelease.shtml

pffffft!

Sep 25, 2000 7:18pm PDT

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i might be moving several states away in a few weeks and wont have computer access for a few months atleast. sucks theres no great game to play before i leave.

Sep 25, 2000 7:14pm PDT

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#73, lol.

Sep 25, 2000 7:18pm PDT

#73, lol. : depression

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how big is the frag 4 event? how many people?

why the hell wont they play some god damn new maps

Sep 25, 2000 7:13pm PDT

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I WANT TO EAT TODD HOWWLENSHEAD'S CHIWLDRWEN!!!!!

Sep 25, 2000 6:42pm PDT

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heh

Sep 25, 2000 7:13pm PDT

heh : depression

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i bet carmack is so pissed over this whole thing, i know he doesnt want to fix shit in q3, he wants to move on i bet, doesnt want us to make him fix stuff back to how it was... but still fix the original bug. I bet he doesnt want to ne-way

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Has Quake 3 gone gold yet??????

Sep 25, 2000 7:08pm PDT

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So... Are demos recorded pre-patch EVER going to work again?

Does demo001 even work?

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I must say that I also like the new feel. Just be flexible. If you're a good player adjusting is easy.

Sep 25, 2000 6:43pm PDT

I must say that I also like the new feel. Just be flexible. If you're a good player adjusting is easy. : TemplaR

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Todd H == Business guy who doesnt know games, thats why he's a biz guy.

-Ze BFF d00d

Sep 25, 2000 6:40pm PDT

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Why don't you sit on the edge of the pool and write a caption for mama...

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Sep 25, 2000 6:39pm PDT

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Ok Todd now it's a beta. From what I downloaded it says Q3PointRelease_125.exe. I don't see the FUCKING BETA AFTER IT! :) Nice coverup hehe :)

Sep 25, 2000 6:34pm PDT

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http://www.normalbobsmith.com/jesusdressup.html

Impressive!!

Sep 25, 2000 6:29pm PDT

http://www.normalbobsmith.com/jesusdressup.html Impressive!! : quake 3 announcer

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CompUSA has these 50x speed cdroms that are usually $50, but they are selling them for $40 and there is a $20 rebate by the door as you leave. I picked one up to replace my worn out 24x and I opened the box and on the cdrom, it says it's a 52x. I let the bios detect it just to see and it said it was a 52x and windows detects it as a 52x even though on the box it came in claims it's a 50x.

Kinda nice deal.

Sep 25, 2000 6:06pm PDT

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The fact that I have still not downloaded, much less installed or tried, this new patch is a testament to the enormous and unreasonable amount of homework I have.

Junior year sucks

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They say they're goin back to the old CTF scoring. Does that nullify the new awards? Defense? Assist? Hmm...

~fungus

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