Newer Unreal Technology
by Steve Gibson, Sep 09, 2000 7:36am PDTSome folllow-up on the Unreal Technology update story from yesterday via BluesNews for you guys. Several people seem to be under the impresssion that this an entirely new technology, however that isnt exactly the case. Here is a bit from Mark Rein on the subject:
The correct name of our engine is simply the Unreal Engine. We probably made a mistake naming the first game Unreal when we should have called it Unreal <something> like we did with UT and plan to do with our next title. We always refer to it as the Unreal Engine and not as any game-specific engine. Of course you're correct in assuming that this technology, and more, will be used in Unreal2 but we do not call it the Unreal2 engine. These shots do not show a new engine they simply show new features recently added to the Unreal Engine. We simply think of the Unreal Engine as an ongoing technology that gets improved all the time. It's like the Corvette. The current version of the Corvette is way more technologically advanced than the original Corvette released in the 50's yet they still simply call it Corvette. That's the way we think of the Unreal Engine. [...]
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One conclusion you have to draw is that a new skillset is upon us. The sort of mad skillz days of Thresh are drawing to an end -- now, your ping, the window you chose to camp in, and a steady aim from half a map away are as apt to get you kills as will your knowledge of the level (which will be a huge wide open affair with only scattered cover) or your sense of combining weapons. I think that's too bad. Yeah, I want to run around in the great virtual outdoors, too, as seen in the new tech movie, but I realize the sacrifice is the very sort of Q1-based gameplay that I think makes DM beautiful and compelling. But to each their own.
Onto some good points:
-- the movie makes a great visual case for including physical fighting in future FPS games. Those karate kicks look killer!
-- terrain: brilliant. I can't wait for deformable terrain, although what I want to see is a few years off. Imagine a level in which you storm a forest stronghold of the opposing team, and gradually the weapons start a forest fire, and by the end you're fighting in these blazing woods....
Ah well -- back to Classic Quake Arena for Q3. :)
I wouldn't do the pchealth.inf uninstall thing, doing that ends up breaking other things like msinfo and Help (that is, if you really mind that, heh). Also, trying to reinstall from a backed up pchealth.inf doesn't always work.
All you need to do is go to the Troubleshooting tab and diable System Restore, and then use msconfig to uncheck statemgr and pchealth (and disable all pchealth things in Task Scheduler). Boot to DOS, deltree the _restore folders, and you're done. Disabling statemgr also disables the System File Protection, but that shouldn't be that big of a deal if you know what you're installing or if you just don't care. ;)
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to me the 2 games just come across as 2 musical styles.
you can't like em both just as much, and some people even hate the other
where did the respect for other peoples opion go ? is this called civilisation ? So take the little dignity you got left and shut up when you see a posting that bashes your favourite game ! try the geeky way of the anandtech people that didnt want to fight with the DPC-people over some Distributed.net stats and just type: '.' when somebody does.
i've never played ut. I hope those of you that play it enjoy it. I play q3, and I enjoy it.
thanks.
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Unreal engine. you could call the Quake2 engine the Quake engine if you wanted too.. same bsp map extension and usage of pak files and dll's.
This is a new engine, if it has new code and it has re-written stuff.. it should be a new engine. So get off the fucking Unreal trip. Besides, we don't want a re-worked Unreal engine, we have one already.
I sorta think it might be cool if they actually started from scratch for a totaly new, not based on glide engine.
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do you run in FSAA mode or some such, the quality of your "cheeters" screenshots is quite nice...
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ut = content
q3 = engine
solved
oh and .spanky - YOU ROCK my man, I love the core FUN gameplay of AQ also, it totally owns CS hands down
http://www.geocities.com/nijanija/q3/
cheeter1-
cheeter3.
my q3 nick is 'a goldfish cracker' btw.
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No, seriously.
I guess they're doing that over at monolith though....
I like Id's naming system much better... of course... Carmack does write every engine from scratch....
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Try this one:
http://www.redrival.com/rizzo/1280X1024.jpg
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i think id makes good engines
NO FUCKING GAMES ANYMORE but good engines..
UT isnt bad - what's wrong with it?
and as for windows me?
well i'm not a microsoft lover, but jesus i really do think the majority of their os's are "ok" they do the job
windows me is the 1'st one i've seen from them that LITERALLY seems "slapped" together quick to make a buck (more so than their other os's) god it's a fucking mess and a bad performer...
keeep that motherfucking shit AWAY from my pc people...
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http://www.3drealms.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/003576.html
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Sincerely,
prower
Shugashack Sports
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right click "my computer" goto properties, hit the performance tab > then FILE SYSTEM
there is a slider bar to allow how much space to use for this option
set to minimum.
hit the TROUBLESHOOTING TAB> check the bottom DISABLE SYSTEM RESTORE
then START>RUN>msconfig
hit the STARTUP tab
disable the PCHEALTH and STATEMGR
also
START > RUN> rundll.exe setupx.dll,InstallHinfSection Uninstall 132 C:\WINDOWS\INF\PCHealth.inf
paste that line in there and you'll be able to delete the restore folder and it will never return.
if you wish to reinstall it, find PCHEALTH.inf>right click>install
very simple
as for fromating and installing
if you load an os and have it running fine (the basics) image your drive, burn to a cd or save on a second drive.
it takes 5 - 10 min to replace the image if YOU screw up your system.
=P
enjoy
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Ive also checked out the retail verson of ME (god i love knowing ppl at EB) and its the same exact thing as the various oem versions from last month.
I like my winme its bootable and the key is already installed ;-)
*waits for Whistler too, cause the alpha build he used was badass, but slower then fuck*
thanks for reminding me, for fucks sake what a bastard option - can we please have this shit disabled as fucking default, mine grew to 900mb or some gay shit in a week
me = quickly coded slops
i have NO idea why MS rushed this, seems to suffer with "feature creep" (is that the description) filling it full of shit, but the core engine still has some fuckups.
i have _NO_ hesitation in recommending my friends stick with 98SE.
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The icons are the same, that is the only similarity.
My only experience with ME was putting it on an old p3 333 box and letting it run NOTHING for a few days. only thing i was doing on it was sending out a continuous ping to my router. After about 4 days of that though, some reason I checked on it and was getting time outs.. Looked at the switch, it's marked as 100.. Pinged the router from my machine, it replied.. Then i sat down and tried to fix it. 3 hours later, with nothing fixed, I load win2k back on it and networking works again. I think my downfall was leaving ME on over 24 hours. I think that triggers a damn bomb or something, and it's just bound to blow up days later.
I have a savage 4 (32 meg) in my system right now. It runs all games quite nicely (long as I don't go over 800x600) except for unreal engine games. What I'm considering is buying a cheap voodoo 3 (2 or 3000) and using it instead until the rampage or nv20 come around. So my question is, would it be worth it to switch at this time? I don't care about the fastest card, I just want to run glide based games with a decent speed.
Two: I hate MS but have to say Windows 2000 has surprised the shit out of me, no problems and runs like a champ.
but gfx is just insane - could make maps incompatible for a start
keep in mind i have no idea how to make a game but this seems a well educated guess to me.
i tire of seeing them comments "will XYZ add this feature"
like "where's the curved surfaces in fakk2" who gives a shit, the game was still good without them - infact if id didnt mention them, you all probably wouldnt have noticed them
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But some how after a week it just corrected itself and now its back the same fps as w2k.
I like the fast loading. The free long distance calling a pretty cool feature too. But the new media player just pisses me off.