Weekend Confirmed 185 - Grand Theft Auto Online, Card Hunter

By Ozzie Mejia, Oct 04, 2013 11:00am PDT

Grand Theft Auto Online has launched, but sadly, hosts Garnett Lee and Jeff Cannata (and Shacknews' Ozzie Mejia) are stuck at the beginning on a "Waiting for players" message. But one person was lucky enough to get in and that's "Indie" Jeff Mattas, who's here to give us his early impressions of GTA 5's new online mode. But not before a brief discussion about Steam Machines and Valve's new controller. After talking some GTA, the crew talks about Card Hunter and what makes it so great, before lamenting its trip down the free-to-play rabbit hole. The show wraps up with some talk of what everyone's looking forward to playing this holiday season, before flying off into the weekend with some new Finishing Moves and the post-show Tailgate.

Weekend Confirmed Ep. 185: 10/04/2013

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    Round 1 - 00:00:35 - 00:31:50

    Round 2 - 00:32:27 - 00:59:15

    Round 3 - 01:00:35 - 01:26:18

    Round 4/Finishing Moves - 01:26:57 - 01:55:27

    Tailgate - 1:58:51 - 2:12:01

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  • As somebody who played through all of the Card Hunter content and strongly dislikes the rise of the free-to-play model ("F2P"), I have to say I think you guys were being way to hard on Card Hunter. I'm like Jeff in that if I play a F2P game, I go out of my way not to spend any money. I refuse to participate in anything that even approaches a "pay to win," mechanic because I feel that it cheapens the game expereince.

    That said, I don't think that Card Hunter has any of that. I bought the basic edition because it unlocked content. I'm happy to pay for content unlocks because it tends to have very little effect on gameplay. And after that one purchase, I never had to give them any more money or even encountered a situation where I even thought about it. It's true that the "club membership" that gives you access to the bonus loot expires after a month, but since I got to the end in a few weeks, that's pretty immaterial.

    The closest Card Hunter comes to an offensive practice is where you can buy chests with pizza (aka real money). And while I would agree that it smells a little bit, it's offset by the fact that you really never need to do it. There's nothing special about those chests. Even if you decided that you needed more loot, which I never did, you could just replay a module and get 3 or 4 chests that way without paying a single dime,

    Feel free to continue to rail against F2P games. I'll join the chorus. But I'm just not sure why you guys singled out Card Hunter as an egregious offender. It's just not. Here are the things you can buy with real money - extra dungeons (content locks, which I'm fine with), new character models (cosmetic, also acceptable), and loot - through chests or club membership (which I've noted above can be obtained easily just by playing the game).