Quake3 & Cheaters

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The problem with that autofire bot is that its so hard to detect. I remember in q2 if someone was using a bot it was simple to tell. All you had to do was spectate through there eye's and you could see how jerky there crosshair would get. This one in q3 only fires when you move your crosshair over someone. So its not really aiming for you, but its firing for you at the perfect time. So if your spectating someone using it, it appears as if they are really good. I know there are people that good, but now I cant be sure who the real deals are anymore. I'm talking bout people with aliases on public servers not the "Pros" I don't think any of them cheat. That's why I hope this update helps this lame situation.

Does steve have a RA server up yet? Its no longer the ip of the OSP CA one.

Oh man I'm on the top 20 for the week!! Praise the lord!

Business Rule #1: Lie, Cheat, and Steal, legally if possible. If obviously illegal, make it look legal. If you can't disguise it well enough, lobby to make it easier!

Game Rule #1: Cheaters suck! Natural selection doesn't apply to gaming! Play nice!

:)

See there are the stupid ppl who think if u kill them u must be cheating like one time I was playing de_dust in CS and hid behind some crates between a wall near the T's spawn point and was picking everyone off. After about the 3rd person everyone is like KICK NORULEZ HE IS CHEATING I was like pshh get a life guyz just cuz I r0x0r and u sux0r doesn't meean I cheat.

-Norulez

All the cheating in Q3 was why I quit playing it for a while. Everybody and their brother became instant rail gods. It's no fun to play against cheaters.

The autofire and pure server hack definitely work on regular servers... I tested it.

Luckily it doesn't work in RA! :)

So I can play Q3 again but damn I'm rusty... I keep trying to click on the players like in Diablo2!

hehe

I've only had one instance in Q3 where I thought someone was cheating.

I was playing Q3 CTF & doing well. I new player joined the server, & we fought a few times (I was on D). I won most (all but 1) of the few battles we had, and was pretty pleased. The map changed & we started again. Suddenly this guy could not miss. If he saw me, I died. Usually from a rail. A coupla times he hit me with a rail twice while we were both in mid air... In the next 3 levels, I managed to kill him 1 time. He never missed. I did not call him a cheater, I had not heard of the autofire proxy at that time, but I was certainly suspicious that something was up... I congratulated him "GG" after each match & he just giggled back "hehe, you're trying!". I still don't know that he was cheating, & that is the worst part of the whole encounter... :/

-Quag

The biggest problem with cheating is it gets people to whine. For every person who starts cheating regularly, they probably cause 10 good players to get accused of cheating.

I have not seen that cheating is half as rampant as people say it is. I have only seen maybe 2 people who I were sure was cheating, and one of them was obvious because he did that trick that makes you move ultra fast back when the demo was out.

In Q3 though, the rail is even easier to use than it was in Q2. With 10ms or less ping it is not unusual for good players to have railgun accuracys of 75% or more, but you get on a server on the Internet and get even half of that kind of accuracy you can guarantee someone is going to call you a bot.

People who think there are a lot of cheaters need to go to a pro tourney sometime to really understand just how GOOD people can be. Then they might not be so quick to accuse everyone.

steve has never cheated.






in his life.

Why so many whiners? Who cares if someone is cheating? If it makes them feel special, so be it. Personally (after many many hours of Quake and q2) I have only been convinced of crossing paths with one cheater. He seemed to shoot the railgun out his ass at everyone...weird. I don't know that cheating is such a big problem, but people accusing people of running bots has certainly become annoying. I see too many people cry "bot!!!" just because they get beat. I have a 300 ping for christ's sake and have had idiotic lpb's accuse me of cheating because I put the smack down. I'm not bragging, my skills are perhaps only slightly above average at best, but everyone seems to forget that it's only a game...if someone bugs you just go find another server or go have a beer and relax for a while...it's just not that important of an issue.

err thought = though

So you guys want me to post CD-Keys hack for Q3A huh?


*Start Evil Laughs* Hehehehehe *End Evil Laughs*

I have it.

This:
http://www.gocompupro.com/cqf/files/elephant.jpg
is what i did to the last cheater i saw online.
Cheaters are good to




POOP ON

Can you believe after this post, I got an email from the actual maker of one of the bots syx66.. Here is what he thinks.. I can't believe he actually believes this stuff..


autoaim/fire bots are no threat to real servers that run good mods like
q3comp and osp, but its true that pure crack should be fixed and disabled. things you -should- ask id about in first place is r_shownormals which is most easiest to use (bind space toggle r_shownormals) and probably worst cheat of all over net. also with sound/model routines/checks i think that people should be able to use their own things like black sky, see through console, no chat sound (argh so annoying), and little tweaks such as that. they were always there in fps games and they should always be part of the game. cvars isnt enough. dont tell me to ask admins to put the paks on their servers, i wont email like my fav 30 servers with little paks.

it does -not- take 3 months to code a protection, but i can assure you fixes for each cheat out there can be done within a day through the game source. so try to encourage id in dedicating a bit more time for fixes instead of saying "good work" because they will release some fix after 6 months of knowing about it.



(Jeez.. can you believe these little phuckers..)

At least in Diablo2, you cannot cheat: the servers are always down!!

35: No need to lie... tell me what cheat you are using!

I wonder what happens if u cheat at a lan party or quake con. odes carmack devine hoolenstead and the whole id crew come out and give u a beat-down???

-Norulez

people have to cheat cause they are just too much of a pussy to go and practice and learn the techniques themselves. or cause they just suck!!

People complain about cheating in QW but I've yet to see it in use. I've thought people were cheating before but the more I watched them the less I suspected it of them.

I saw some guy seemingly shoot a grenade out of his ass but it never happened again.

Ah well. QW for me

Cheaters never win and winners nev... *gets tomatoes thrown at him*

I wasnt aware that Quake3 was suffering from proxy bots and such (I dont play as much quake as I used too). Surely it hasnt reached the epidemic proportions of the latter Quake2 days? Does Quake3 have a bot problem? Already?

Cheaters suck p00

oh, #10, you anonymous bastard... that would have made my day too.

plop uhhh "post more than 10 characters" zzz

Cheating is OK as long as you don't play it multiplayer. I don't have a problem with people who, say, use the Diablo 2 character editor as long as they don't play with it onliine.