Intel Happenings
by Maarten Goldstein, Jul 23, 2000 11:00am PDTSome new Intel news, over at Comtex News. They are reporting Intel is moving their Pentium3 production process to 0.13 micron, so it can scale along with the Athlon to the 1+Ghz speeds. The 1.1Ghz P3 that Intel is launching soon is still based on a 0.18 micron process, but unlike AMD's Athlon the Pentium3 can't go as far as 1.4Ghz or further without a die shrink. Intel is also finally adding support for a 200mhz frontside bus. The missing picture here of course is the Pentium4, which is due to be Intel's next flagship. However, they don't have a mainstream desktop version of that processor when it launches.
He [analyst Bert McComas] said Intel desperately needs a new high-frequency mainstream MPU to compete against AMD's Athlon Thunderbird and upcoming Ultra.Also, GA-Hardware has an interview with Robert Golubeff, talking to the Intel Internet Strategy Director about the competition from AMD and Transmeta, the i815E chipset, the Pentium4 and a couple of other Intel-related products.
"Intel couldn't afford to wait on developing a mainstream desktop Willamette chip," McComas said. "They've returned to the old tried-and-true Pentium III core as a quick fix."
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Hmmm Intel do sound like they are on the ropes a little here. Competition is great.
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I'm not sure where you pulled all of that out of. The two chips are exactly the same except the celeron has less cache. They use the same core.
The Celeron533a oc's to 800mhz without effort, that means no voltage tweaks or extra cooling, many people run it at 913mhz without doing anything special and lots of people can get that just by goosing the voltage a bit.
After checking some benchmarks on the net I was surprised to see that the 700e oc'd to 913mhz pretty easily, and that this yeilds a performance gain in Q3 of about 25-30% over a Cel 533a at 800mhz.
Even at a 30% gain, it is still TWICE as much to purchase this processor. Now when you are speaking strictly about ratios, as in the price/performance ratio, it should be imediately obvious that doubling the price is going to throw that ratio way the fuck out of sync if the performance increases by less than twice. Hence, the 533a is the winner for price/performance in this comparison.
Of course the 30% increase might be worth it if it is 'just' $100 to you, but to me it's not. I make $9/hr so I have to budget just to get the $100 for the celeron, let alone the 700e.
Anyway, the whole argument is moot because I don't have a board that would allow me to step through FSB increments to OC the 700e. I can run at 66mhz or 100mhz, thats it.
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Mobos using slot a are the asus k7v and the abit ka7... The new thunderbirds and durons will be socket A. However a few of the newer thunderbirs will work on the slot a mobos but i don't know how. One of the newer mobos supporting the socket a is the asus a7v.
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The FC Celeron 533 overclocks to 800mhz without any effort just by putting it into a slotket and dropping it into my current BX board (which is at 100mhz FSB). The fact that this celeron is running on a p3 core is another bonus, so for about $110 altogether Ill go from my current 450mhz P2 class machine (which is a celeron 300a overclocked I should add) to an 800mhz p3 class. Good value there.
Just wait for the big OC chip, thats what I say.
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too bad the ram and pci wouldn't work with that... and even if they made a .13 700
but i think the point is that .13's will overclock even more... hopefully intel doesnt lock em all up tight...
I thought I'd be the first to say something intelligent.
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