NVidia Strong Arm Response
by Steve Gibson, Jul 21, 2000 3:42am PDTKyle over at HardOCP really managed to stir the poop yesterday with his article on NVidia PR tactics. In fact there are reactions (and similar stories) all over. You can read stuff at Hypothermia, BrokenPixel, InsaneHardware, and NVNews. . Mike James sent along this official response NVidia is handing out to people who email them:
Thank you for taking the time to contact NVIDIA and giving us the opportunity to respond to your concerns. As you can imagine, we have received many emails regarding RIVA3D (www.riva3d.com) and other negative posts that have been posted over the last couple of days. Unfortunatley, there were a couple of miscommunications and mishaps which have led to these negative posts. Please allow me to assure you that NVIDIA does not have a policy of strong arming any member of the media. It is not unusual for large companies to be attacked on the Web, and it is our policy not to publicly respond in most instances, but on behalf of NVIDIA, I would like to say that we do appreciate your patronage and we do not attempt to dictate what is or is not covered online. Thanks for your time and your understanding, and please feel free to email me if you have any additional questions or concerns. Cheers, DerekAlso since so many people requested it, here was my little spat with NVidia a year or so ago over their misleading unknowing consumers. Do I think NVidia is guilty? Hmmm Probably a bit. Certainly wouldnt be anything new in the industry.
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Nvidia, proceeded to hire 9 key people from Aureal after they indicated they did not want to get into Audio and after Aureal disclosed all personel and organizations under NDAs. Pretty cut throat and ruthless. It is very hard for a young company like Aureal to survive in a contentious environment like the valley: lawsuits, employee steeling, tight margins ..etc.
(posted by an ex-Aureal employee)
Obviously one does not get to the top by playing nice, but after all these allegations I have trouble viewing Nvidia as the cool good guys who overthrew the worthless King 3dfx ;)
-mati
nVidia neither said nor implied that those curves were only possible on a Geforce, in fact the said quite the opposite:
...we have a set of screenshots showing off the high curve detail that can be achieved in Quake 3
Achieved in Quake 3 being the operative words, no mention of an nVidia product at all there. Further down they say:
This is an example of the differences high polygon count can have in games, and the high poly setting being included in Quake 3 for cards that use Transform & Lighting.
Note they say "cards that use T&L", not "Geforce 256."
Also you may remember Carmack posting the cvars for these settings himself in one of his .plans, stating that the T&L really has no trouble with this level of detail at good fps.
I think your sarcastic response (though very amusing =)) was more bullshit than nVidia's - they weren't claiming their GF 256 was the only card that could do this, but your reply WAS claiming that they were trying to bullshit people, which is wrong.
Sorry to sound like a whining nVidia fanboy, but I couldn't really see anything wrong with what nVidia said, and I just wanted to get it off my chest.
BH
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Of COURSE we are going to think of playability ("the real issue here")when we look at those high-quality shots....r-i-i-i-i-i-i-ght
Ya know, congrats to nvidia for being so successful - that's business. Too bad they have to be assholes about it.
i got another question though, why dont they do it like on friday or saterday, people have to go to work after sunday, and then they cant play : (
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3DFX ROX0RS!!!
*picks up dead horse and runs with it*
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does anyone know where I can hold of that metal gear solid DVD thats been released in japan??
thanks
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http://www.clanpot.com/ra3screens/BB3.jpg
heh, the flags are back-asswords as far as i can tell in this pick, hope they fixed that before release if they are going to take 8 months
Make that a Riva 128 ZX (not 120)
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http://www.sharkyextreme.com/
to find out what to pick.
Anyone know if they are forced to say NVidia is great stuff, or not??
BTW, I bought a Asus Ge Force 256. Just wondering, but that's not the same as NVidia. Should I still get their drivers instead?
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I see it as a potentially major flaw.
i dont know whether it will be fixed with drivers but i like having the 16bit option, if i feel like more fps.
came round my house and beat me in for no real reason. Then the other day I saw the nvidia Gestapo raid my neighbours house and take him away in a black van.
You cant walk the streets no more
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The older Vaios you could upgrade... :-)
BTW anyone got the latest version of MS Whistler, I would like to get some files from you if possible, just the ones in c:/windows/web
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But could they wait for Babylon 5..... Oooooh noo..... Pissy Sierra fuckers..... (This was a J3UK Rant)
http://www.avault.com/news/displaynews.asp?story=3182000-91229
Another HL Expansion pack!
Apparantly, this is old news. (As in, March news)
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V5-5500 PCI
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