Soldier of Fortune Banned

I gotta disagree, Alberta is the only place to live in Canada. I mean, it has some really wicked scenery areas, it has Edmonton which is the sweetest city ANYWHERE, 2 NHL team (one of which is pretty good, then there is Calgary) and to top it off, NO PST (provincial sales tax for you americans). Hey just outta curiosity, how many American states have State tax?

Alright, I'm just gonna copy/paste this. Kinda sick of Canadians' ultranationalism-at-the-US's-expense attitude. Nothing wrong to be proud of your country, but (trying to) step on another to make yours seem better just screams something not entirely associated with superiority.

Forwarded to me, email addys changed (em@il.com) to thwart the disgruntled.


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TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES


This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing.


America: The Good Neighbor.

Widespread but only partial news coverage was given
recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from
Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television
commentator. What follows is the full text of his
trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional
Record:

"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the
Americans as the most generous and possibly the
least appreciated people on all the earth.
Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and
Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the
Americans who poured in billions of dollars and
forgave other billions in debts. None of these
countries is today paying even the interest on its
remaining debts to the United States.

When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956,
it was the Americans who propped it up, and their
reward was to be insulted and swindled on the
streets of Paris. I (this reporter) was there. I saw it.

When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the
United States that hurries in to help. This spring,
59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes.
Nobody helped.

The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped
billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now
newspapers in those countries are writing about the
decadent, warmongering Americans.

I'd like to see just one of those countries that
is gloating over the erosion of the United States
dollar build its own airplane. Does any other
country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo
Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10?
If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the
International lines except Russia fly American
Planes?


Why does no other land on earth even consider
putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about
Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about
German technocracy, and you get automobiles.

You talk about American technocracy, and you find
men on the moon -- not once, but several times --
and safely home again.

You talk about scandals, and the Americans put
theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at .
Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and
hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them,
unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting
American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.


When the railways of France, Germany and India
were breaking down through age, it was the Americans
who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and
the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them
an old caboose. Both are still broke.

I can name you 5,000 times when the Americans raced
to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name
me even one time when someone else raced to the
Americans in trouble? I don't think there was
outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake.
Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one
Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get
kicked around. They will come out of this thing with
their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled
to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating
over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not
one of those,"

Stand proud, America!


This one of the best editorials that I have ever
read regarding the United States. It is nice that
one man realizes it. I only wish that the rest of
the world would realize it. We are always blamed for
everything, and never even get a thank you for the
things we do.

I would hope hope that each of you would send this to
as many people as you can and emphasize that they
should send it to as many of their friends until
this letter is sent to every person on the web. I am just
a single American that has read this, I SURE HOPE THAT
A LOT MORE READ IT SOON. Stand proud, America!

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Soldier of Fortune ain't nothing compared to the gore and violence The Great Seer has witnessed in your future. A prime example is a game called "The Gib Chamber" from egoSoftware, based in Houston S1, Mare Tranquillitatis, Luna.

A little background first. What makes this game possible is the massive processing power made available in a giant leap breakthrough which was not expected for at least another 10 years -- In April of 2027, after many dissapointing technical setbacks, Via (the dominant chipmaker of the day) finally releases their Cyrix Gelxeed (pronounced: gelk'z'eed) "CPU." A 'xeed' is the new buzzword given to nanotech seedlings. The xeed itself is about 100,000 times smaller than a grain of dust, and consists of: the molecular core, which serves as the "factory floor framework," a molecular tape, which contains the "CPU" blueprint & instruction set, and an interconnected surrounding shell of bootstrap nanoassemblers. The consumer simply purchases one of these xeeds (surrounded by a soluble jellybean-like coating to make handling possible), and "sticks it" onto the surface of his favorite personal item, such as a ring, a tooth, his scalp, or more commonly for purists, his RSVisor. Then an activating gel is applied, and the nanobots get to work assembling the "computer" according to the layout of its environment and user needs. A few minutes later and you've got a microfilm layer of self-repairing, self-expandable/shrinkable, computing power in your hair or wherever, which is powered either by the human body itself, thermodynamics, or, erm, well, that's enough background; you get the point.

Anyway, the Gib Chamber is the first game written to take advantage of ALL the new power available. It simulates a 50 foot cubic room in which the physical contents can be modeled in detail down to the atomic level. What's in the room you ask? ANYTHING you want. Anything that you or anyone else has molecularly scanned or modeled can exist in your chamber just as it does in reality; including yourself.

But the game is called Gib Chamber for a reason: Out of The Box, Gib Chamber features only the chamber, a chair, a huge selection of weapons of destruction, and a few simple minded cadavers to "work on." These cadavers aren't really dead bodies though, they're just called that because of a limitation of molecular scanners. Namely that it's impossible to scan or simulate the electrochemical synaptic activity of the human brain, so they're augmented with AI.

The game is a HUGE success! When people get tired of burning, hammering, torturing, dismembering, kniving, shooting, blowing up, and otherwise gibbing their cadavers into pulp, they turn to mods! The most popular one is called, "Your Own Orgy Room" thanks to the horny masses who surreptitiously scanned every hot chicks' body and made it available on FreeNet.

(Note: The SMRHARU (Soccer Moms, Religious Hypocrites, and Anal Retentives Union) version of The Gib Chamber features Green Blood.)

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Hope you enjoyed this whacked, and unprovoked vision of the future from The Great Seer. :) -- (last post!)

think that's a story?

ilf
(living in germany)

You know whats cool? A post dealing with CANADA ONLY has over 300 comments.

(me notices that 258 of these are people saying canada sux. shitty.)

Fucking BC hypocrite mother shitter politicians...

Never mind SOF, why hasn't anyone mentioned that the Mountain Dew in Canada has no caffeine?!

Several shugashack posters are from Canada.

yeah i get pissed the fuck off when people smoke near me and i have to deal with it. Like at some bus stop and they are smokeing in my face, i just scream at these people, fuckem, its so funny, they just get this look on their face, like im raining on their parade or something. ha ha. DONT smoke in my face cuz i WILL make a scene! er!

A friend of mine smoke sometimes, but its cool, he tries to make sure its not blowing in my face. as long as u keep the smoke to yourself its cool

haha, killing urself with second hand smoking? UR DRINKING ALCHYHALL...thats killing u just as fast as breathing that shit in....everyone is a damned FOOL,, KILL ME NOW!

Have you ever read a story about the Australian government banning some internet thing or some middle eastern country prosecuting internet users and ask yourself "are these people backwards or what?".

Well I live in Vancouver, BC. People here hate the government, They are widely considered corrupt, incompetent, and will be thrown out on their asses next election.

So consider this when reading this story about this 'moral stand' being taken here. Its another case of high-school-educated politicians taking stands on things that aren't big every day issues for most of the people they represent.

fuck that dude, I'm with jidar on this one.

poison your own body to your hearts content, just as long as neither me nor my little kids have to breathe that shit in.

that statement was just plain dumb. (solution....simply not be around smokers)
won't even go into that.

Johnny is dead.

Like a cat he sneaks through the dark corridor.
Trained hands hold aloft his tool.
Sleek weapon of destruction.

His clear eyes dart to and fro,
searching for the enemy,
wary of ambush.

Peering around a corner, he catches movement.
His targets do not notice his silent approach.

He plants his feet.
Gun posted in a two-handed stance.
Face blank, no emotion.

He opens fire.

2 shots
2 dead

He smiles, and drops his weapon.

-------High Score!!------------
-------Enter your name:

"Honey, turn the game off and come in for dinner."
"Yes Mother."

The TV flickers into blackness.
"Johnny" fades last.

The problem is parents aren't responsible. Consider all the negative factors - divorce; teen pregnancy; single parenthood; drug/alcohol abuse; physical/emotional abuse; etc. Kids being raised in broken homes by people who are kids themselves is commonplace. And what happens? Their kids grow up to be fucked up, having kids even younger than their parents. It's a cycle...and one could say that the stable, "normal" person is being bred out of our society. How many smart, stable people have you talked to that don't want to bring kids into today's world? And how many single, crack addicted welfare moms are out their with 12 kids?

BiffyC. (talking out my ass)

A parent chats with his kid, little Johnny, about death and violence: :)

Parent: Johnny, do you know why killing people is bad?
Johnny: Because you go to jail, which is bad, and if you believe in religion and stuff, you go to hell, which is bad too.
Parent: Why else?
Johnny: Because if you've got all your marbles it makes you feel bad.
Parent: Why else?
Johnny: Because the dead guy might have angry friends.
Parent: Good Johnny. Now, why is *hurting* people bad?
Johnny: Because if you only damage their armor they can still come back and frag you.
Parent: "Armor? Frag?" What are you talking about johnny?
Johnny: It's from games I play that let me pretend to kill people. Like Soldier of Fortune.
Parent: Johnny! Do those games make you feel bad? Do they make you want to kill Daddy?
Johnny: No mommy... It's a game.
Parent: Maybe it makes you want to do things?
Johnny: Yeah... it makes me tired if I play too much.
Parnet: Anything else?
Johnny: Yeah... it makes want to join the Navy Seals when I grow up so I can protect my country.
Parnet: Johnny?
Johnny: I'm not stupid Mom.
Parnet: NO MORE GAMES FOR YOU!
Johnny: Don't oppress me mother.
Parent: YOU HEARD ME!
Johnny: So did you.

vantage you are a manly swordswieldingman.

but if you ran after me with any of your swords I would not hesitate to whip out any form of advanced firepower to put you down. heh.

Gotta love advancements in technology. they do great things in terms of violence and war.

I for one am glad to see someone finally take a stand and tell the world enough is enough! We need more love and happiness in our daily lives, not sadistic murder scenes and graphic violence. I know Jesus would prefer a kinder gentler game.

Now if you'll excuse me I have to go find some happy people and teach them about love with my rocket launcher in Quake land...

Sludgehead

"Never pet a burning dog."

the sword debate...

well, my friends and I bullshitted about this a while back and one guy swore by the Scot's Claymore, but most of us said any Samurai would whoop any Scotsman's ass. Simply, all the scotsman has is one shot at hurting the Samurai (if he gets that far), because in the time it takes to lift and swing that big-ass (bad-ass) Claymore, the Samurai would have innumerable swipes of his one, or two swords... not to mention the trained agility of a Samurai to dodge the realtively slow Claymore.

Then, I asked a friend who had done a lot of martial arts swordsmanship study and he said that it would be close, but if you could pair up the best of swordsmen from their respective eras, he thinks the French Rapier expert would edge out the Samurai.

Then again, consider the era... for the Samurai take Miyamoto Musashi who lived in the mid-16th century. He's considered the greatest Japanese swordsman to ever live. About the Scots or the French time periods, Ida know.

......just fuel for the discussion.

BC is for pussies. First they ban smoking from clubs and bars, now they ban SOF...what's next? Alcohol?

Reading that shit was like tourcher, but if i asked them to ban it.....id get laughed at, much like i laugh at this shit....how could u stop people from what they see and hear...its defying god (even though i dont believe in that bullshit either, but this dick face obviously does) and controlling humans.... FUCK LIFE, people suck

British Columbia can suck my ass and then some. First guns, now this. :)

maybe it's been said, but I'm not reading all of the comments.

The expressions of this agony are manifested in cries of pain, screaming
and physical responses to the injuries, including recoiling, flailing, grimacing and grasping at the wound site.

Well no shit. What the hell do you think would happen if you were lit on fire? You can't put it out...you will die. I don't think it would be pleasant. If you ban this stuff for being real, then you should ban movies that show suffering; you should ban the daily news for reporting someone as being shot-and now theyre in intensive care; you should ban minors from going into hospitals; hell, why not just ban violence all together?

Get your heads outta your asses and shut the fuck up.

You lame fuck. A first post is a first post. If it has #1 next to it. It is first. It "counts"...

Thanks!

"Anyone here"

Why doesn't someone make a game called "Saving Private Ryan"? It can have the original story and the new story, heheh. Make it have the option to play multiplayer, heheh.

Heh, protesting, well if we start protesting you can bet our Prime Minister will order the cops to pepper spray everyone is sight and there ya go, another dragged on 3 year hearing into this 'SoF Inquiry'

Heh, protesting, well if we start protesting you can bet our Prime Minister will order the cops to pepper spray everyone is sight and there ya go, another dragged on 3 year hearing into this 'SoF Inquiry'

What's next? A message board about "Violent Games Making Kids Going Violent?" and that is bs about kids being violent cuz of games. That is total bs. Parents should take more responsiblity. I'm tired of hearing comments like this.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand, I would like to know how long it is going to take for SoF to be taken off the shelves. I live in Victoria, and knowing a few store managers, it seems the longer they can delay this, the better. Hell, even a few days and this article means all the kids who were thinking of buying it will rush out just to make sure they can get it. Or you know, the one kid who already had it will make quite a bit of money selling burned copies. So in a sense the good old NDP gov't is helping out the pirtaed software industry. WAY TO GO!!

It's a good thing I don't live up in British Columbia. The teenagers in British Columbia may start some protesting. SoF is a good game in my opinion.

Ack.
I forgot to download the counterstrike mod. And I've only got about 15 min left at work.

Anybody got a full download mirror for the CS66 full Mod?

Thanks

This is retarded.

Someone in BC should start a big, fat petition and send it to that fucktard Andrew Petter saying that responsible parents and game players should not be punished for one mans inability to read the giant warning on the front of the box, inability to read the warning at the beginning of the game, and inability to turn off all that gratuitous violence.

Also, they could include something about violating our rights by being censored by the government (blah, blah, blah)...

It'd probably have to be signed by real people (ie: real paper petition signed in ink). I'd say print one up and head down to EB in Metrotown. Tell me when it's going down and I'll be there!

I'm happy to be a Canadian, and a few of these posts are pretty stupid. Let's see, Canada sucks... and yet the US crime rate is about 3 times higher and the education level is several notches lower? Maybe the latter explains the former (and all the posts slamming Canada)!

BC is one province, banning one game for minors - not banning it outright... I hardly consider that a problem with Canada as a whole.

More importantly I'm sure there's going to be a LOT of angry people out in BC who'll demand that the under-18 ban on SOF be lifted. I wouldn't be surprised if the ban was lifted before the end of the year, especially since there's a lot of hypocrisy with the ban (there are movies which are worse out there that you can easily buy or rent if you're under 18).

:)

It wasn't an attempt to make fun of the dialogue or anything.
I am just really bored/have been playing CS all morning.

*takes a bite out of his microwave taquito*