PlayStation 4 launch 'crucial' before next Xbox, says analyst
EEDAR analyst Jesse Divnich talks to Shacknews about how Sony's early announcement was a cagey move, and suggests that the company should beat Microsoft to market as well.
Sony has had its say on the PlayStation 4, followed promptly by the reactions of fans. It's the market analysts' turn to have a go at the new system. Jesse Divnich of Electronic Entertainment Design and Research (EEDAR) says Sony was smart to beat Microsoft to the punch on the announcement, and needs to keep that trend going for the console launch.
"Sony's PlayStation 4 announcement was nearly perfect and on point," Divnich told Shacknews. "The biggest challenge Sony has right now is the struggling console market. Launching another console at $599 would be a big mistake. Sony has to keep the retail costs of the PlayStation 4 reasonable so consumers are not threatened by the price. It's crucial that Sony's launches the PlayStation 4 before Microsoft launches its next console."
He says that announcing ahead of Microsoft was a cagey move as well. "Sony can now focus and spend more time on discussing its online network, go more in depth with its games, and pricing at later events this year, such as E3." That said, he doesn't think Microsoft is fretting. "Microsoft is likely working on its own announcement plans and not deviating too much from them at this point."
Finally, Divnich noted that this presentation focused on courting developers, in stark contrast to the PlayStation 3. "The overall message of Sony's presentation was how easy it will be for developers this time around," he said. "PlayStation 3 had many development issues from third-parties, at least early on in the console's life. Many multiplatform titles ran poorly on PlayStation 3 compared to Xbox 360. It looks as though Sony is correcting this problem. Talking to developers and gaining critical feedback in development of the PlayStation 4 was essential."
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EEDAR analyst Jesse Divnich talks to Shacknews about how Sony's early announcement was a cagey move, and suggests that the company should beat Microsoft to market as well.-
Here's my take. I think its OK at best. I still wouldn't rush out to pre-order this just yet. And no - it's not because of the controller that everyone is crying about (which I think is fine imo), its the fact they've gone too social/sharing with this. That seems to be the bigger emphasis on this system. With my console games, I just like to play a single-player game, once in a blue moon maybe hop into a MP game. But theres too much ....useless fluff with this system that I'll never even bother looking at.
Killzone 4 demo was OK, didn't WoW me like I though it would have. Majority of the bigger titles that were shown (Destiny, Watch Dogs, etc.) are multi-platform (including PS3) so a simple "yea, its coming to PS4" would have sufficed. I guess down the road we should see some more exclusives but this didn't jump out and impress me unlike the jump from PS2 to PS3 did. I'm waiting for Xbox's press release on their next system before deciding which system (or if I will even) go with.-
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the emphasis on social/sharing is because they got destroyed in the online space by Microsoft in the current gen. PS3 did not have online functionality at all when it shipped. They stressed all of this stuff yesterday because it is a paradigm shift for Playstation.
i liked all of that stuff, and i am sure you can turn it all off if you don't want to use it. -
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Initially it'll look a little better than current gen. In two years when publishers stop making versions of games for the Wii U, PS3 and 360 because they've figured out ways to optimize for the PS4/Durango that can't be replicated on lesser hardware it'll start looking pretty sweet. In 5 years once the Wii U 2 is out (with U2 skin and different U2 music for loading and startup screens, etc.) because they really need something better (but it will just be 9 PowerPC cores running at 1.7Ghz for backwards compatibility, and a GPU based on the next PC gen cards) they'll be pretty awesome and Nintendo will have 2 years of being a little better than caught up for the most part instead of just one while developers complain that they really should've put 16GB of GD^3RAR RAM instead because it's just not enough.
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I've heard that and if the Deep Down demo was really real time, I will proudly rescind my statement.
That said, every console announcement has pre-rendered "game footage".
The PS2 was supposed to have Toy Story graphics and we can't forget the whole Killzone 2 incident and even now Aliens Colonial Marines had an impressive "demo" that didn't look the final at all.
I would say though that I am cautiously optimistic.-
People have terrible memories. Aside from the jump to HD, the first run of 360 and ps3 games were really not that impressive. Go back and look at perfect dark zero, then compare it to something like halo 4.
We also saw the Unreal 4 tech demo playing in real time, there is nothing close to that on current consoles or pcs for that matter right now. And that is just at the start of the cycle.
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YES. THIS GUY. Upvote. Like. Whatever. I'm constantly surrounded by Sony FanBoi's to this day claim the PS2 was some sort of marvel, made them breakfast. Hell I used to be one. I preordered a PS2, had that thing on day 1. Sony hyped that thing to the moon and back, this thing is gunna let you run Toy Story in real time blah blah blah. After about a year of crappy games and unfinished promises I sold it grabbed a Gamecube at launch and never looked back.
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The is just a factor of what is being improved.
Killzone 4 was running at 1080p, a signification jump in resolution from the previous generation. The image was also much cleaner with an obvious improved use of AA. Other factors such as shadow quality were way up as well. In general everything was a lot cleaner with minimal rendering artifacts that we've gotten used with the current generation.
These don't pop out as an improvement as much as say triple to polygon budget but as a whole these little things add up to a significant improvement in image fidelity that people will notice more actually playing the games.
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I did not intend to be rude. I was responding to [fry]'s post above. How about I rewrite your post above so you can get a better idea of the grammar involved?
"I highly doubt that millions of consumers will buy the Xbox 720 over the Playstation 4 because the xbox will block used games. Blocking used games would not be good."
Hopefully, I was close.-
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I think you meant smarty-pants, but honestly, smart-panty man is much funnier.
I do not know the extent of your hearing impairment. I am sure you have overcome a great deal, and I am glad you are posting here and communicating with us.
I do hope that you can find the time to read more and improve your writing in the future.
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"In my opinion, consumers won't buy the next generation xbox because the xbox may block used games. People will opt to buy the Playstation 4 that does not block used games, and is always connected to the internet. :) I won't buy the xbox. Instead, I will probably go for the Wii U and the Playstation. :D"
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This has been going on for quite awhile now: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me0la7Kr9w1r8l11jo1_1280.jpg
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Sadly no [fry] I came to realise recently, yes I can easily afford all 3 consoles, I can not afford the time of all 3 consoles.
Selling the 360 stopped me looking at 360 news, I don't need to worry "is this 360 exclusive something I'd like?" because I spent so long looking at PS3 exclusives. I have cut off a limb and I need not worry about it.
Between movies, TV shows, PC gaming and my PS3 - my time is already well well taken care of :(
So when it comes to next gen, I'll rent / borrow / steal a Wii U for 1 week for Bayonetta 2 and otherwise buy one console. It's likely to be the PS4 but Microsoft could do some fucking amazing shit which I have no choice but to go for.
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The Xbox failed to produce exclusives which interested me long term, Fable I loved and it slowly turned to shit and Forza well,.. I do miss Forza :( a lot.
The other Xbox exclusives, 2 particular ones I feel are actually some of the most over rated games in the past decade :/ I think the only other thing on Xbox I'd like is Fez. -
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So of the new features, it's obvious the social functions are what Sony thinks are important.
Are they? I really don't give a shit about most of that. It's cool, but I don't think it's a big deal. Games are the thing. After that comes all the streaming capabilities, then way down the list comes streaming my game to other people. -
guyz, Carmack has spoken: https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/304607913853476864
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Your definition of "3rd place again" must not account for the Wii outselling both the 360 and the PS3 by over 20 million units (not combined).
Overall, the Wii would outsell its competitors worldwide. However, Wii sales fell considerably in 2012. To this day, the PS3 and xbox 360 have been catching up.
1.Wii – 99.38 million as of 31 December 2012
2.PlayStation 3 – 77 million as of 31 December 2012
3.Xbox 360 – 75.9 million as of 31 December 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_wars#Worldwide_sales_figures_6-
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While the weakest, the difference isn't necessarily as far apart as you might think. This is the most recent data that appeared relatively independent.
360 8.8
PS3 8.1
Wii 7.7
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2010/05/15/ps3_game_attach_rate_closes_in_on_xbox_360_s
A bit of quick fuzzy math puts the ballpark numbers at
360 = 667m = 75.9m*8.8
PS3 = 623m = 77m*8.1
Wii = 765m = 99.38m*7.7
And while I'd expect the 360 numbers to be getting better in relation to Wii's, the estimate doesn't exactly support the notion that 360 software sales are blowing he Wii's out of the water.-
factor in online service revenues too
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-07/xbox-live-sales-probably-topped-1-billion-for-the-first-time.html
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They'll make them where they can make money. If Wii U gets it's shit sorted as far as install base goes it will be included and don't think for one second that pubs are going to abandon 150 million+ users in PS3 and 360.
Wii U might not get all games but it should be able to handle downports of a lot.
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