Weekend Confirmed 148 - Disney Infinity, Path of Exile, CES 2013, video game legislation

By Jeff Mattas, Jan 18, 2013 11:00am PST

On this week's episode of Weekend Confirmed, hosts Garnett Lee and Jeff Cannata are joined by "Indie" Jeff Mattas and Machinima's Andrea Rene. This time out, everyone heads up a segment of the show. Andrea kicks things off with some Disney Infinity discussion, Garnett talks about CES 2013 and the magic of 4K televisions, Mattas starts a chat about the recent legislative action surrounding video game violence, and Cannata shares some positive impressions about the Path of Exile closed beta. Finishing Moves puts a bow on it all, and is followed by another playoff edition of the post-show NFL TailGate.

Weekend Confirmed Ep. 148: 1/18/2013

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    Round 1 - 00:00:34 - 00:28:37

    Whatcha' Been Playin Part 1 - 00:29:58 - 00:59:30

    Whatcha Been Playin Part 2 01:00:11 - 01:30:18

    Listener Feedback/Front Page News - 01:30:56 - 02:04:03

    Tailgate: 02:04:47 – 02:12:00

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  • It's my first post here, but I've been listening to you guys for the past 2 years, and I watch the daily show on YouTube (you really should make that a bigger show). Thought I'd just comment on a couple of things:

    The new format is interesting, and it worked well enough, though when I first listened to how it was supposed to work my first thought was: "Isn't that just a ridiculously long Finishing Move?' It's not that different from what you guys normally do, it's more focused. Most pre-show videos I saw had guests including things they wanted to talk about on the list of show topics. I wonder how the format will work when there is more to talk about (come March it'll probably be chaos).

    I agree with Jeff Mattis, that I want to punch hipster Dante in the face... Yet is it worth a buy?

    About The Big Bang Theory... I think we're giving too much credit to someone's tumbler article, even more since it makes some ridiculously silly points. After listening to the show I went out and read it, and in fairness I should have known what I was getting into when I read that the author was sick and tired of having people defend the show. When the very notion of people liking a show makes someone angry, you can know a pretty close-minded rambling is to follow.

    Some of the points are really baffling, saying that if you think the show's funny you're looking at the show through Penny's eyes... The show creates a contrast between how 'normal people' and geeks behave. And the vast majority of the time, the nerds are shown in a majorly positive light. And if we're laughing 'at' them... Guess what, that's what every sitcom does. Community does it... a lot. The difference is that Abed is one of the characters, so it's not focused entirely on his behaviour. That Jeff Winger gives a speech on the pilot episode, where he praises every character having barely met them in a rather ridiculous manner only so the group can be together and he can get together with Britta (the joke there is the cynicism of his character), is used as evidence to Abed's treatment by the group should tell you quite a lot about the reasoning within the article.

    The article specifically brings up the fact that nerds have always been described as people the protagonists avoided. Here's a show where geeks are at the forefront, being described as really nice, professionally successful people who have their own passions and are not, for the most part, afraid of showing their love for fantasy, sci-fi, etc, and it's wrong because it accurately reflects that outside their comfort zone their demeanor would be considered 'weird'? Yes people, it's weird to be out late to watch a new cut of Indiana Jones. And the ultimate message of the show is somewhat similar to what I feel: Yes it's normally considered 'weird' to be ridiculously excited by wanting to buy a new issue of 'The Boys', or the Blu-Ray collector's edition of Blade Runner, but this is my passion and I'm excited about this. So to hell with all the rest.

    In every sitcom we know the characters, experience moments where they are ridiculed, laugh at the situation, and because of what they went through we feel closer to them. Just because a show is making fun of stuff I like, suddenly it's wrong and 'offensive' (I'm really beggining to hate this word)? Like it or not, if we live in a world where it's more acceptable to behave like a nerd (like Jeff said on a TRS episode: 'We won'), quite a large portion (I hesitate in saying 'the majority') of the reason why comes directly from this show. Hating it because it dares to make fun of something we like, or of people we identify with, really doesn't negate any of that.

    In the end, if we're laughing 'at' them yet at the same time advancing the acceptance of Nerd culture, our culture, to more and more people, then that, to me, is the deffiniton of us laughing 'with' them.

    P.S.: As a disclaimer, I've seen the first, what, three seasons of TBBT, and a few episodes here and there since then. I do think Community is a better show, and my favorite comedy, though when Arrested Development season 4 comes out on Netflix that may change.

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    • I couldn't believe the hypocrisy in downing TBBT and following it up with a discussion about toys in a new video game. It's absolutely a discussion Sheldon, Leonard and the gang would have. It's a discussion my friends and I would/have had.

      To say the show mocks geek culture is completely misguided and probably from someone who hasn't watched more than a couple episodes(likely from the first season). The show absolutely embraces our culture and yes, shines a light on some of the sillier things nerds do or get excited about. However, it's never done in a malicious way. Rarely are the gang mocked by outsiders. They are always in their comfort zone at the apartment, comic book store, or work. Rarely do they ever mingle with non-nerds to give that setup of an outsider bashing nerds. Sure Penny was the outsiders view into their world... in the first season, but the writers have made her grow to embrace the nerds & culture herself. Do they exaggerate some of the stereotypes and archetypes on the show? Absolutely, but it's a sitcom made to make you laugh and it's all done from a loving kind of way.

      I am one of these people. I've been to conventions. I've seen Video Games Live. I've stood in line an hour before a store opening to get the latest Star Wars figures. I stood in line 13+ hours in 30 degree weather to get a Wii. I'll forgo a night out to play some Halo. I'll take a day off work to veg out and do some adventuring with Nathan Drake. I'll go to a LOTR marathon. I've read my fair share of Star Wars: EU novels. I still buy and love LEGO sets. I take my two daughters (8 & 6) to the comic book store. I'm a geek. Period. If you can't look at that list (or a list of your own nerdy attributes) and laugh, you should do some soul searching.

      I learned two things from this episode. First is how uptight and insecure the gang at Weekend Confirmed are about being nerds. Second, that they have no problems arguing a stance when they haven't sufficiently taken in enough of something. Would they pass judgement on a 60+ hour game after 2 hours? No. I'm not sure why they did here.

      I suggest a viewing club for the gang to watch a season or two of the show(maybe include the community). Not together, but individually and come back and discuss it in the post Weekend Confirmed show since football is ending. At least then an honest opinion can be formed instead of basing judgement on a few random episodes that may or may not have had their full attention.