Weekend Confirmed 146 - 2013 begins, Dishonored, next-gen predictions

By Jeff Mattas, Jan 04, 2013 11:00am PST

Weekend Confirmed is back for the firs episode of 2013! Garnett Lee, Jeff Cannata, and "Indie" Jeff Mattas are joined by Nikole Zivalich this week to talk about games like Dishonored and the brilliant new indie title, Hundreds. Much of this episode's discussion centers around predictions for the future of gaming, including possible next-steps for gaming hardware and peripherals, as well as what sort of changes might help reinvigorate the MMO genre in the coming years. Finishing Moves wraps up the show, followed by a WildCard edition of the post-show NFL TailGate.

Weekend Confirmed Ep. 146: 1/4/2013

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    Round 1 - 00:00:30 - 00:29:10

    Whatcha' Been Playin Part 1 - 00:29:45 - 00:55:34

    Whatcha Been Playin Part 2 00:56:15 - 01:26:06

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  • Hey, I've been listening for a long time but never posted a comment before though after listening to the discussion on used games I figured i'd like to chime in. Please be gentle.

    I agree with some of what you have said regarding games having a price point between $60 and $15 it should certainly happen.

    The problem I had was with the problem everyone seems to have with forbidding used game sales in one way or another. (I definitely agree with, I think it was Jeff here, that said they are doing it the wrong way they should be giving us something as well not just taking it away. Case and point steam)

    If you are buy the game for $60 and enjoy it that should be fine. I don't understand the mentality where you think it should be there responsibility to keep the game off the used game shelves. You have bought there game, you have enjoyed there game. If someone else wants to have the same experience they should have to go through he same process. It would be as if movie tickets after you see it on the big screen you could sell it to a friend.

    These are some of the things that are keeping game prices high. By removing the ability to resell games they aren't trying to charge customers more they are trying to increase their customers.

    As I said in the beginning it does come down to maximizing profits and this in the end is what they are trying to do of course.

    Either way I love the show, it's certainly been entertaining me for countless years now (god looking back now how long has it been Garnett?). Keep rocking on. Love you.

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    • It is not the same as selling someone your movie ticket - there is a lot of overhead for movies in the theater; utilities, employees, equipment cost, etc. that must be put out each and every time a movie is projected.

      It IS the same as loaning or selling someone a DVD or Blu Ray. Yes, there were upfront costs of making the movie/game and maybe the producers are seeing less profit because of it (I disagree, but more on that later) but it doesn't actually cost them money to have someone resell or loan out a DVD or game. You might argue that multi-player servers cost them something but then you run into the whole online pass initiative.

      Many, many sequels get bought day one because someone bought a used copy of the original and fell in love. I cant count the number of games I have bought over the years because I rented, borrowed or bought used a previous iteration. This generation Ive even bought a ton of HD remakes of games that I originally bought used.

      As a matter of fact, I'm someone who probably buys about 3-4 brand new games a month between retail and download and I started out by primarily buying used games. When I was in high school I would buy Sega Master System games off of one of the kids at school. I'm old) That lead to me being a die hard SEGA fan and I bought into every SEGA system - even the 32x - until they went software only and started sucking balls. When I got out of school and had to start paying my own bills, I switched back to buying mostly used games. That kept me in the habit until I was able to start buying new games again. Now, like I said, I buy 3-4 new games a month.

      The used market builds invested customers, who might not grow into as big of gamers without it. If MS and Sony are going to eliminate it, they are cutting themselves off at the knees.

      I'm not even going to get into how many people rely on the money from used game sales to buy new games in the first place. Hell, even with my current income allowing more buying power, if I buy a new game I hate, I certainly still want and use the ability to trade it in and take the edge of of buying my next game.

      You brought up Steam. The thing about steam is that they do massive sales and radically slash prices on AAA games all the time. If the console manufacturers can do these kind of sales, then I don't care as much about a used market. Steam sales have better prices than used games stores. If either Sony or MS could start dong this kind of price slashing, I wouldn't have as big an issue. I would still lament not being able to loan a game to a friend, or rent one from gamefly or redbox but my outrage would be mitigated a bit. The problem is that retailers selling physical copies of games would not be on board with this and if Sony or MS started slashing digital games prices on their networks, they would catch a lot of heat from their retail partners.

      The one place I see Sony being smart about a lot of these issues is with PS+. Doing things like giving away Borderlands the month before Borderlands2 came out, or the first few episodes of The Walking Dead gives them a way to get games into gamers hands for cheap and prime the pump for sequels. Unfortunately, EU PS+ is way outpacing US PS+ at the moment and it is pissing people off.

      Anyway, that is just my extremely long and involved 2 cents. Sorry to blather on.