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Report: Source Engine 2 files discovered

by Steve Watts, Aug 06, 2012 8:15am PDT

Related Topics – Valve, Source

Valve's proprietary Source Engine is getting up in years, and the company hasn't seemed eager to replace it. But a few files reportedly buried in the Source Filmmaker imply that perhaps a new iteration of Source is on the way after all.

Valve Time reports that the script files for Filmmaker contain more than 60 references to Source 2. One references to "current engine version" and "next-gen 'Source 2'" in particular. A user also pointed out Source 2 tool icons in the SFM files.

Obviously, this information hasn't been confirmed by Valve, so take it with a grain of salt. Last year the company noted that it prefers to update its existing engine, rather than put the work into a full overhaul. Shacknews has contacted Valve regarding the report and will update as more information becomes available.

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Steve Watts posted a new article, Report: Source Engine 2 files discovered.

Notes in the Source Filmmaker files seem to indicate that Valve is actively developing a Source 2 engine.

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Steve Watts posted a new article, Report: Source Engine 2 files discovered.

Notes in the Source Filmmaker files seem to indicate that Valve is actively developing a Source 2 engine. : Shacknews
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  I'm going to assume that if this means anything at all it's just a package of new development tools rathe... : Mystery0000
  - "New engines" are all about marketing, nobody ever actually reinvents everything from scratch. : Zek
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  ! Half Life 3 on Source 2 keep the dream alive : valcan_s
  - I'll help keep it alive with you! : ajvitaly
  - w00t! I'm with you on this one. I want it bad. : Ormsbee
  - I will shed tears of joy when HL3 is announced. I will cry. : at0micgarden
  - I WILL LITERALLY LOSE MY SHIT : gmd
  - Just protect the source code this time! : kagath
  - Yes plex : shirif
  - i would upgrade my computer for that : smacknca
  - I DEFINITELY ASKED FOR THIS : Downforce
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    Black Mesa Source would be scrapped in favor of Black Mesa Source 2, which will also then incorporate all... : Schnapple
    - release date april 1, 2024 : RikiTiki2
  - Don't forget a new L4D, Tf and Portal! Though yeah give me HL first! : InfernoAblaze
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  I wonder if Source 2 will blow people away to the same degree the original Source engine did. I still re... : pigvomit
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    Blow away as in blow away the players sense of patience? First release of Steam I clearly remember it bei... : TheGeneMachine
    - I'm talking about the engine, not the delivery platform. : pigvomit
    - Swoosh : shirif
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    Actually wasn't the first reveal the Beta of CS:S? I remember first loading that after playing CS:CZ, th... : chiisu81
    - I believe it was the first time you could play the Source engine. But I think HL2 was unveiled in 2003, ... : pigvomit
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  What do YOU want to see in Source 2?. Personally I would like better lighting :) : pun][sher
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    Destructible environments (from buildings to geography). : pigvomit
    - this seriously needs to be in every FPS now : razorblade79
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    Kill bsp. Kill it! : shirif
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      What's wrong with bsp? I don't make levels so I have no idea. : sanchez
      
      Shit at outdoors, leaks, building walls one by one instead of just carving stuff out... that's my recolle... : node
      
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      Basicly everything should go towards modeled props. Bsp is pretty oldschool right now. Unreal engine game... : Snipergen
      
      that shift would be great for first party releases but would take a big dump on valve's third party level : badcaps
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    Bigger levels with shorter loading : sonicdeathwalrus
    - it'd be great if the levels loaded in the background as you approached the next one. doesn't the Unreal e... : Korban
  - Euphoria-style reactive physics animation : Rehevkor
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    What these 4 guys have said already, no BSP, huge worlds, destructible shit, and people physics. Happy ti... : Creepin_Jeezus
    - BSP is okay for big pieces. UE3 does it well. : Fred Garvin
  - I think its time for a revolution in AI. I want a good AI that suprises the player and keeps him on his t... : JohnnyDanger
  - real time microtransactions : gmd
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    physics applied to all projectiles including bullets. full-on frame of reference type stuff, where player... : RikiTiki2
    - Technically a laser beam wouldn't be hitscan either : _jon
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    No audio stuttering : Albemuth
    - ^^ this : Yanks
  - Dynamic global illumination. : SlamDunk
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    after Portal 2, a huge one for me is no more load screens : veras
    - (or at least way less) : veras
  - Half Life 3. : master_disaster_17
  - Streaming levels. Portal 2 was a huge step back.. : deathofrats
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    An editor like the one for Portal 2 but for all the games. Or something like Crysis. : razlebol
    - Check out Shootmania's editor. : TroZ
  - Destructible everything. Seriously. : burning eye
  - Better hat physics : cruncht1me
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    The ability to alt-tab without the engine shitting itself. Also, reflections. : Magitek
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      You already have alt-tabing without the engine shitting itself. -windowed and -noborder in launch opti... : Teleporting Muffins
      
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      That's a pretty shitty solution. : node
      
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      It works the same as fullscreen but you can alt-tab. How is that shitty? : Teleporting Muffins
      
      AFAIK, Crossfire/SLI doesn't work with those options. : TrptJim
  - Next-gen chicken killing physics : stuka
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    Movable objects not sucking in multiplayer games. This would allow for vehicles.
    
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    Movable objects not sucking in multiplayer games. This would allow for vehicles. : sanchez
  - I think the most important visual advancement games really need to make are better animation systems. Rig... : disembodied potato
  - A level editor that isn't stuck in 1999. : PointlesS76
  - Fix the AI. Valve championed the improved AI but I always found it lacking. : Pettytheft
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    Better Alyx ass-jiggle physics. : trOmblyj
    - Baby got back 2.0 : coyoterys
    - Soft-body physics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KppTmsNFneg : Modulus
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    Gibs : shred.
    - THIS!!!!! : Jockiboy
  - No more mini loads plz k thnx. : happynoodle
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    They've done so well with facial animation, modeling, and texturing. I would like to see them have sub-su... : haiku
    - Oh and perfectly round wheels. Come on already with that. : haiku
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    crates. where are the crates. also auction house(s). : Downforce
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      and another garden gnome. a huge huge one this time : qwpeoriu
      
      in fact they should just call the engine "Garden Gnome Simulator 2k" : qwpeoriu
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    Next gen audio that sounds realistic. : inchwide
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      i want audio in general to get some love. whats the current benchmark of good audio, BF3? I dont know if ... : smacknca
      
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      Yeah, the Frostbite audio engine is awesome for outdoors. I'd still like a full DSP engine with geometry ... : Fred Garvin
      
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      Something like this: http://www.carlschissler.com/gsound/ : Fred Garvin
      
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      how does ambisonics fit into this world? vbap and others are just vector panning so i know they are okay ... : smacknca
      
      No one in the gaming world outside academics talk about stuff like this. It's hard enough to get cycles t... : Fred Garvin
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    less [LOADING] pauses for [LOADING] loading things [LOADING] between [LOADING] every room. : Fenring42
    - haha, I'm going to have to agree with this, streamed levels would be awesome : qwpeoriu
  - MMX optimisations. : abrasion
  - unreal engine 4 graphics, with improved source facial animation. might as well dream big : Unleashed
- Source2 could be an enticing license option since it will likely work on Windows, OSX and linux. Combine... : sukabljat