Carmack: Nothing exciting about Windows 8

by John Keefer, Aug 03, 2012 6:45am PDT

Related Topics – John Carmack, Windows 8, QuakeCon 2012

First, Valve boss Gabe Newell went on the record as saying Windows 8 is a bit of a catastrophe. Now, id Software's John Carmack says there is nothing he is looking forward to in the new operating system and that he is quite content with Windows 7.

Speaking at QuakeCon 2012, Carmack told the audience during his keynote that there is nothing exciting about Windows 8. "Windows XP did everything we needed for quite awhile," he said, "Hardly anyone at id used Vista." When Windows 7 came out, Carmack added, it was a bit more attractive because it did some things better and faster, so there is no reason for him to consider switching to Windows 8.

Well, there may be one reason. He joked that with Doom 3 BFG coming out for PC soon, he probably should do some testing with it.

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John Keefer posted a new article, Carmack: Nothing exciting about Windows 8.

Microsoft may be excited about Windows 8, but id's John Carmack says he is there is nothing he is looking forward to in the new operating system.

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Microsoft may be excited about Windows 8, but id's John Carmack says he is there is nothing he is looking forward to in the new operating system. : Shacknews
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  Meh. Carmack's input is kind of a non-contribution. Seems like he's of the opinion that anything followin... : fuell
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  Call me when id does something exciting again. : Fred Garvin
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  You know I am really getting pissed of with these shops saying "eh what ever", even if they have half ass... : valcan_s
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  Well, he *is* the expert on products that aren't exciting. : surround
  - http://youtu.be/Aw11NFz14sA : packav
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  Microsoft should announce a free flashlight with ever copy, that might get his attention. : grandmasterlee
  - fleshlight might get a better response : Albemuth
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  The fact that he is saying that there hasn't been big improvement in Windows for id since XP I think just... : Firefly1985
  - He also came out recently and said developing with DirectX is better than OpenGL, they just have too much... : yehmuthah
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  This means nothing. Carmack is a genius, but he is pretty irrelevant these days. I said it. : Sgt_Boomstick
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  i love the common theme of "oh so-and-so doesnt like it? oh hes not important anyway." : rtrson
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    Right. On the one hand, I've got a brilliant programmer and rocket scientist, and on the other hand I've ... : FlatlineDixay
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      so if Epic says they like Windows 8 where does that piece of evidence fit in? : derelict515
      
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      I would find that to be compelling. If they said it. Did they say it? I don't think they said it. : FlatlineDixay
      
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      In wish list form: http://m.pcgamer.com/2011/03/04/mark-rein-calls-for-curated-app-store-in-windows-8 ... : derelict515
      
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      I don't care if there's an app store, so long as it's completely optional. I don't entirely see why that ... : FlatlineDixay
      
      then you don't understand the biggest problems facing modern developers or average users and why iOS has ... : derelict515
      
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      But they didn't say this. We can't argue hypotheticals : rtrson
      
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      I linked to specific quotes where they did : derelict515
      
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      Did any engineering people at Epic say that, or just Rein? : nagenift
      
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      why does that matter? : derelict515
      
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      Word from someone who actually writes code/knows wtf is better than word of soul selling exec. Well, imo ... : nagenift
      
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      A feature could be extremely useful to the business that coder works for without impacting his programmin... : derelict515
      
      Citation needed re exec that isn't blood sucker. : nagenift
  - Yeah, seems it doesnt matter who you are, if you're a prominent person and try to tell shackers what to t... : alphablu
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  Windows 8 is the new Windows Vista / Windows ME, you heard it here first : creeping-death
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  Unless I'm missing something, I don't see a compelling reason to lay down cash for Windows 8. It won't i... : jingletard
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  I don't understand why he expects Microsoft to bend over backwards to assist game development. They make... : alias
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    I agree Microsoft should only create products for the user groups that make them the most money, FUCK EVE... : FlatlineDixay
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      That's kinda how businesses operate : Dave-A
      
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      Or they satisfy as many customers as they can. : FlatlineDixay
      
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      They have a majority in the desktop OS market. OS X has a barrier of cost that limits its reach despite being a superior OS in many ways, and Linux has a barrier of usability/compatibility which offsets it being free. Windows holding the majority will continue.
      
      From Microsoft's standpoint, why should they care about PC gaming when they can sell gamers into a separate console ecosystem? Most of those same people are already most likely on Windows anyway. It isn't surprising that they've thrown PC gaming under the bus when they can sell to some of their customers twice, it just isn't worth putting the resources into their development studios or OS in comparison.
      
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      They have a majority in the desktop OS market. OS X has a barrier of cost that limits its reach despite b... : Serpico74
      
      that's kinda how businesses operate, it so happens that a feature to satisfy someone costs time and money... : derelict515
    - That's the Apple way, see final cut pro and aperture. : rosewood
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    gaming is a pretty significant industry, even though its segmented over several different platforms if th... : Unleashed
    - Microsoft isn't going to actively hurt the PC gaming industry but they don't have a lot of incentive to r... : alias
- What are you a fucking genius mr Carmack ? We know more about Windows 8 than you ! It comes with METRO an... : Cashh
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  True story, id peaked with Quake 2. When UT '99 came out I saw Epic winning. But they shouldn't feel to... : Ocelot
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    I kinda feel they peaked with QW...as much as I love Q2 and Q3...I think QW in retrospect was probably th... : Vorlonesque
    - I think John Carmack himself peaked with Quake3 or maybe Doom3, in terms of engine development. These day... : Entity
- Correction: Carmack: nothing exciting out of IDSoft for the past 10 years. : rythex

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