Weekend Confirmed 105 - Journey, Mists of Pandaria, Mass Effect 3

by Garnett Lee, Mar 23, 2012 11:00am PDT

After a long look at Mass Effect 3 last week, Jeff, Jeff, Andrea, and Garnett turn their attentions to Journey, the upcoming Mists of Pandaria expansion for World of Warcraft, and other games. However, they cannot ignore the interesting turn the controversy over the ending of Mass Effect 3 took with BioWare co-founder Dr. Ray Muzyka directly addressing fans to promise them "clarity" and "closure" through new content the team will create. We also catch up on the announcement of an Epic Mickey sequel along the way to wrapping up with Finishing Moves.

Weekend Confirmed Ep. 105: 03/23/2012

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  • I've just watched the second dev diary for Witcher 2 enhanced edition where they talked about adding a lot of new cinematics to make the story easier to understand for all the new players of the game. They are also apparently adding new ending cinematics in an entirely new location to better flesh out that ending. Now there are going to 12 different ending states based on how you played the game.

    My question is if a developer can change/alter their game for fans even if the fans already liked it without consequence from the media, why can't Bioware do that same thing with out getting labeled as sellouts?

    Is it because CDProjekt are doing proactively on their own, even if some people did complain that the story was difficult to follow?

    I for one don't want Bioware to change the ending I just want more clarity as to WTF happened at the end whether it is all a dream or not.

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    • CDProjekt actively listen to their fanbase as well as take on board criticisms from gaming websites. With The Witcher 1 game they famously released an enhanced edition of the game a few months after release addressing a number of concerns (including revamped dialogue and voiceovers) and made it available for free via download to existing owners.

      Similarly during the development of The Witcher 2 concerns were raised about the lascivious nature of a scene featuring a semi-naked woman being tortured which was shown publicly and commenters (professional and otherwise) questioned the necessity for the camera to linger on the subject and CDprojekt revamped the scene accordingly.

      This whole 'artistic integrity' defence over the apparent sanctity of Biowares 'vision' seems faintly regressive in terms of understanding the push/pull of the interactive medium.

      There's a few articles and videos doing the rounds that are less complaints about the ending and more breakdowns as to why it so spectacularly fails to have met so many peoples expectations purely from a narrative perspective ( is a good one.). Regardless of how many might feel about the antics of the retake mass effect movement and the overboard antics of some outliers (refund boy and law suit imbecile in particular), plain truth of the matter is there's not many people really leaping to the defence of the endings when it comes down to bringing the series to as satisfactory conclusion.

      I have to wonder if when Mac Walters had his eureka moment with 'lot's of speculation from everyone' idea

      He swapped it out for 'lots of consternation from everyone' Casey Hudson and the rest of the writing team would of been so eager to get behind pulling a matrix reloaded. Hindsight is everything, let's be honest no ones really speculating on what the endings mean. They might be speculating on whether everything is a dream/nightmare (not something I can get behind personally tbh), but that's not quite the same thing. There's no mystery ..instead there's a God Child and he had a magic space wand that he'll let you wave in one of three way at the cost of your life (or does he?)

      From a narrative perspective I'd really like to see someone make a positive argument for the current endings. Nothing I've read so far (and I've looked) has convinced me that they are anything other than underwhelming on every level so far. Lot's of defense on grounds of 'artistic integrity' few on grounds of 'a masterpiece of interactive storytelling that sets a new benchmark for the industry to aspire to terms of narrative delivery'.