Name That Map

I'm surprised the tounge map isin't in there the KM Portal... That was a bad map!

You know id software could most likely make some more money if they were to add these maps along with the newers ones in the map pack thats coming up!

Plus it would just be cool to look back...

But it won't happen, yet alone they prob. threw all the old maps away

I'm remaking that map beta 22...

I'm starting from scratch and I'm just gonna do some crazy world that has lots of eye candy and special effects, right now I only have the map planed out on paper, but I've got a start and these shots are helping me with ideas and stuff! Thans Steve

I'm also certain that I can't fucking type sometimes...

-Rev.

O/T...

I was looking through the maps and I noticed a couple of shots that had the original q3test Railgun in them.

I liked that cyan pulse that lit the midchamber of the gun. I thought that looked pretty wicked. Granted, I understand why id might have felt the need to change it, seeing as how three other weapons share that effect, but I think the 'final' version looks unfinished. Why in the hell did they leave the midsection of the Railgun all blacked-out like that? It doesn't even match the first-person perspcetive of the weapon! Was this a little last-minute something that slipped through the cracks?

Frankly, I was also disappointed with the 'final' RG effect too. I thought the original looked more like a vapor trail than the laserbeam aftermath you see now.

-Rev. (...longs for the Q2 RG model/effect)

I can't remember the number of the map and I think it is one of the q3wctf maps. Anyway Beta16 looks like an earlier version of the Finnegan's Revenge CTF map. Probably not but it does look like it:)

The textures in the retail Q3 maps are relatively poor. You got some really nice detailed ones mixed in with some absolutely blurry and 2D looking textures with ugly colors. If the engine uses more polys to make things more realistic looking why wasn't much effort put into making quality textures? But the fact that Q3 was not as well polished and thought out as it should have been has been discussed to death. The detail on most of the Counterstrike maps just wow me. Its a perfect example of how quality work can really shine through even in older technology.

I think beta_23 could be a *very* early version of q3dm11.

I'm glad Steve did this -- so we can see how far id has traveled not just from Q1 but even from their own cool beta maps. Skid said it best:

"If that tier in Q3A is meant to be gothic then I am Mickey Mouse. I'd be hard pressed to find any group of maps with such an overcolored, overdecorated, unatmospheric, brightly lit sense of "BLAH" prevailing through them."

In interviews, you can learn why the maps were ruined: it was this much-ballyhooed collaborative process at id. Mappers handed the maps off to artists for "finishing." The finishing meant doodads, stupid texture schemes, mood-ruining lighting, etc. You'll even find passing remarks by the designers lamenting mildly what happened to their work in the process. I wonder if Devine had a hand in that mischief. In any case, design by committee doesn't work -- you get crapola like the "Flintsones" movie, with over one dozen (!) screenwriters working on it, and you get crapola like Q3, which could be called Q1 as interpreted by the Backstreet Boys.

What id had once, it needs again. Strong, independent creative minds allowed to do what they love. A sense of individualism, personal vision. One by one, the most distinctive level designers who were at id have fled or been fired, and the current crew is looking flabby and uninspired.

beat 26 looks like an early version of t3 (Hell's Gate):

* Open/foggy map
* The central structure (furthest from camera) looks like the area above the RL (might be an exact match).

Very loosely matches it, but I think that's what it evolved into.

~Hakaisha

Here's a few guesses...

Beta15 = DM18
beta19 = DM15
beta24 = Tourney4
beta26 = Dunno, but I swear it looks like Tokay's Towers ;)
beta31 = CTF2

Just guesses, but that's what they make me think of.

- Z

Beta11 is definately tourney4 Verticle Vengeance

Beta 25 looks like it may be an early version of DM15. Outter area but that's just a guess, obviously:)

-CC

Man, some of those maps look ancient, alot even resemble Quake 1 maps...

The old DM17 is pretty cool :)

Beta 11 seems to be Tourney 4 from the ground level....

Chern

Beta 1 looks like Q3DM7 to me. Only the far wall and the bounce pad were kept, the skull was replaced with fire. All the crap in the middle was redone. Just that far wall looks SOOO similar.

Beta 12 - q3dm9 ?

Beta 17 might be q3dm15

Beta 11... Q3DM10? A bit of a stretch...

Beta 24 looks like a scrapped map, but it was reborn (totally redone from scratch) as q3tourney4.

hrm, Ive played beta 5 in q3. It came from q1 though. fun, furious map.

might be just me... but I think Beta24 looks like it is part of what became Anarki's map (forget which tourney# map it is). Whaddaya think?

I like the old DM17.

and that's saying a lot because dm17 is my fav map.

no, I am right...but you guys already got it. I musta missed it.

shit, nevermind my last post

maybe its been said already......screen number 3 is dm7

Actually, beta17 is not q3dm4. It was a shot of a map that was never released.

beta12 I think is actually either an early shot of q3tourney1 or an unreleased map.

beta15, believe it or not, is actually an early version of "The Space Chamber" before I went and completely redesigned it into a space map.

beta18, yuck.

-Xian

I rarely remember mapnames. It's useless information.