Microsoft & Bungie Official

Jidar, get a grip. I have a "right" to complain about Win98 because I've used it for over a year, and have found that it is in fact a P.O.S.

Because there is essentially no OS competition for the x86 platform, MS doesn't have to figure out and properly implement UI *basics* like drag-and-drop, text selection, cursor key functionality, contextual menus, etc.

Still, I like having a supa fast GeForce DDR and all the games that take advantage of it. It'd be tough to go back to a Mac after playing HomeWorld.

Btw, OS *6* was better than Win3.1.

Damn, some of you people are really taking this to heart.

If this really affects you, get a fucking life. Businesses get bought and sold every day.

This is but the first rumbling of a Silicon World War comming in a few years.

M$ starts with the X-box. Its a gaming platform. Then they offer a choice to owners about a free upgrade for a special edition of either IE or Netscape to make the xbox a web browser. Then, they offer, or allow 'Bleem' to make an emulator program to allow the xbox to run PC games. Then they offer a special plug in adapter to use a printer or other USB(2) periferals.

If the console has a HD, an Intel processor, a motherboard, and PC Sdram {or Sgram}.... guess what? Its a fucking PC. If anyone should be nervous, its the OEM's. Compaq? Gateway? Dell? HELLO!
The X-box is designed to be the "Model T Ford" of computers for the next few years..... rolling out hundreds of thousands of them every month for years.

Yo, OEM's, pay attention to this:
Its like the neighbor who keeps coming over to talk to your wife. If you keep letting him come over, pretty soon he is eating out of your refrigerator, pettin your dog, drinkin your booze, and doin' your wife. And then you say to yourself...... HOW THE FUCK DID THIS HAPPEN?

Damn.. I think the shack's just getting more popular... all the stories have lots of posts now.

Soon, we'll rival Slashdot.

LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEEERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lakers, baby!!!!! YAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

As a Mac user, you have no right to complain about Windows. MacOS is on par with Win3.1 as an OS. Now when MacOS X comes out, this will be a different story.. but till then.

297, Dorker,

Damn right Mac fans are pissed. I don't even have a Mac anymore (gave in to dark side and bought PIII 733 for all the wunnerful games) and it ticks me off.

If not for all the great games, I wouldn't put up with P.O.S. Win98 for another minute.

290, Archon,

You ask, "How could Bungie do this to us? Do they not care about money? Do they not expect a negative fallout from the fans?"

I think, just maybe, Bungie did this precisely because they care about money. Specifically, the great big wads of cash MS just handed them.

Presumably it was enough to convince the Bungie execs that a little negative fan reaction is worth it.

It's depressing to see this on all of their pages.

"Halo is a trademark and Bungie is a registered trademark of Bungie Software Products Corporation.
© 1999 Bungie Software Products Corporation. All rights reserved."

Boogieman

I bet Mac fans are pissed. They don't have many good games to choose from already and now this news.

I think the XBox has a chance of being a damn good product. Microsoft knows much more what I as a PC user might want, then say Sony or Sega. And developement with DX8 on it will be a dream as well. Haven't been particulary interested in Halo, but it should be good either way.

And please don't bother with idiotic comments about the stability of the Xbox. I'd like to see another OS support as much hardware, legacy applications and apis, and maintain a consistentent standardized interface as Windows does.

FUCK M$.......those ball lickers will get their share when they plumett to the deep dungeons of eternal hell! FUCK YOU gates and the rest of the fallen angels! god have no mercy on your worthless carcases once i destroy you!

I haven't followed this at all, but I'd think MS would release the PC and Xbox versions at the same time. It's a perfect way to get PC people to buy the system. MS will say, "Hey look, you can play the game on the $300 xbox and have it look just as good as a $2000 pc! Also, it's less trouble to get it installed on the xbox! There's no bugs with wierd configs!" MS doesn't care about the 2 or 3 hunderd , or even thousand die hards that they might get to buy Halo on the xbox because they can't wait for the PC version. Instead this would be the perfect way to contrast the advantages of the xbox to the all important mass market.

This enrages me beyond reason. I really, really wanted Halo soon, and now it looks as if it may not ever come to PC, granted they're thinking about it. How could Bungie do this to us? Do they not care about money? Do they not expect a negative fallout from the fans?

i want to be halox0r'd

dumb question but how do you make a page your homepage with ie?

All I see (for the most part) is a bunch of people attacking Bungie over their decision to sell-out. Why? What makes you think you know just what the hell is going on?

"Well, now they won't be able to make games the way they want anymore..." -- Why is this? Bill Gates is going to whip their little asses into creating Minesweeper on the Halo engine? The fact is, you don't know exactly what the terms are, and nobody else does.

If you'd bother to take your flaming heads out of your asses, you'd know that BUNGIE (now Bungie Studios) retains control over which platforms to develop for... NOT Microsoft. So quit with all the "There goes the PC game" bullshit.

Granted, I haven't thought this post out at all, yet it clearly shows the new "Anti-Bungiesoft" posters haven't either. Companies get bought out all the time, and in many cases it's for the better. Just because you HATE Windows and Internet Explorer (yet subsequently have/use them each day), does NOT mean Microsoft is going to assimilate Bungie.

I say, good luck to Bungie and congrats on the new parking spaces.
In the mean time, I think all the whiners should just STFU until we hear exactly how this buy-out will affect Halo/Bungie. From what we _DO_ know -- Bungie is now "Bungie Studios": The boys are rich(er): Some employees now have a new pad in Redmond.... THAT'S IT! So shove the over zealous speculations up your flaming asses....thank you

You shouldn't beleive everything you read...If MS wants any of Bungie's games to be on the Xbox, that game will be on the Xbox.plus, Xbox will have a keyboard and a mouse.

From the FAQ on this deal:

Does Bungie actually get to choose what platforms they will develop for?

Yes. That decision will be made by the development team, just as it is now, and is based not only on financial concerns but also on which platform(s) the team feels are best for the game in question. For example, we might very well develop a game that was not a good fit for a console due to the complexity of its control scheme; in that case we would have the freedom to develop and publish PC and Mac versions.

Uh... unless the X-box has a keyboard and mouse standard (most people won't buy them separate for a console just for a few games, as with the steering wheels they have for consoles) a lot of people won't fully enjoy Halo on the X-box. Playing Goldeneye on the N64 was a pain in the ass hands. Also, I doubt a lot of console users will take the time to grasp the controls of a mouse in a FPS/ThirdPS... I know I've tried to teach my sister how to play Quake and she's always moving wack-ass ways.

Boogieman

Bungie is doing this for 3 reasons:
1) (of course) money and stock options
2) ability to define a gaming platform and tweak it to their desired specs
3) Easier and more optimized development (since system is locked parameters. ie. known video chip, processor,etc .. no variables).

Sadly, the industry is blowing so much smoke up their asses about consoles being the future of gaming. (Yeah..they'd like that, but until technology slows down ... giggle ... games and leading game developers will always push the latest technology available.)

yeah yeah... Bungie IS designing for the latest technology available with the X-Box, BUT they are $$overlooking$$ that the X-Box will be old-school 2 months after release compared to newer PC technologies. Nice thing with PC software .. upgradeable and (sometimes sadly) patch-able.

That would be pretty fucking funny...

(knock on door)

me: Who is it?

person: Let me in, I want to talk to you about your server policies.

me: Okay... (opens door to find a guy with a large build and a retarded demeanor)

person: I'm Ominous. You kicked me off of your server, don't do it again.

me: (begins to laugh and shuts the door on his face)

238: Yeah... I love doing that while checking my stock... Can you feel it? Oh my company... ohhhhhh.... $5 better... ohhh... now $60.... OOOOOOHHHH....I am almost there... AHHHHHHHHhhhh... (feign)



(kidding)

Deucy,... M$ buying id software...
muhahahahaha

I can just see J. Carmack and a 'M$ suit' in an 'interface meeting'..

M$ guy- John, we feel that DooM3 needs to be moving in the direction of an X-box exclusive.

J.C. {silence}

M$ guy- We also want to tone down the graphic violence just a bit. You see, on a console, games are geared twards a younger consumer, and we dont want parents to prevent kids from buying it.

J.C. {silence}

M$ guy- John, we're all family here, and sometimes comprimises have to be made....

J.C.- Get the fuck outta my office. I dont expect to see you again, ever.

M$ guy- Im telling Mr. Gates

*J.C. pulles a sawed off shotgun from under his desk*

{id could never be sold to another company, unless Carmack moves it in a direction he never has....... a large software house w/multiple projects and programing teams}

Hey Steve, could you delete this Belzebitch account? I just got my password back for it, but it's a worthless account.

Thanks,

Daggah

oh dear lord
http://patent.womplex.ibm.com/details?pn=US05707341__

It is a great news. It mean that MS is not out yet. Wow... check the stocks... hehe... wuahahaa... oooooooh ..... OOOOOOHHHH..... they started low but went up at the end. Ohoh... Normally that mean that the company(Bungie) that they bought sucks and will make no difference to MS :(

When M$ buys id software then I'll give a rats ass,untill then can I please have q3TA and be on my way?

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Duke Nuked: * N U K E D *... @ Random Saturday

Gareth, have you even read the stupid PR?

It says NOWHERE that Halo will not be a PC game. NOWHERE.

Dark Sage:

The Xbox and PS2 have loads of power... you can do a "real" game on them now (AI/physics/world size/and so on). Halo will probably be outright beautiful on the Xbox with the volume of polys and effects they can use.

And as for "all those other great game designers" under MS, at least a few of them are already working on console games. Angel Studios (the Midtown Madness people) are working on Midnight Run for the PS2. Digital Anvil is doing a Dreamcast port of Starlancer. I think Turbine is supposed to be doing a game something like Asheron's Call for a console (most likely Xbox), and I think FASA Interactive wants to do an Xbox Mechwarrior game - not MW4 though.

Consoles are becoming a lot more important these days - so you can't really ignore them anymore.

http://www.bungie.com/faq.shtml

Most of your assumptions put to rest....
Aside from the "Will Halo still come out for PC one" :)

I can't believe they aren't MAKING SURE to announce that at least they'll be keeping the pc version - if they'll still be so 'independent' contrary to what their fans fear, you'd think they would be a sure to not piss off all those potential customers.
Sure they 'might' release a pc/mac version, but then you read THIS SHIT:

"We still have the same creative source of ideas. It might have an effect on when you might see one of our games or what you might be holding in your hands when you're playing, but it's absolutely going to be net positive for the games. "

That's horseshit.
NEVER cut the pc gamer's out of the picture - especially when you tease them in the beginning and then yank the carrot on the stick away later after they've drooled as you wanted.
Bungie - fuck your decision - it hurts your good name and reputation as a developer that's been set apart from the mass of SHITE out there.
In the event Halo becomes X-Box only, prepare for backlash from those who have trusted you, and lost.
I didn't count on the extra $200-300 to buy the game they've been dangling in our faces all this time.
Jerks.

Yah i got more beef:

Why the fuck should one of the best pc developers go over to fucking consols? What about all those other great game designers that work in microsoft will they be switched to consols too? What about freelancer for instance?