Microsoft & Halo

Okay, I know this has nothing to do with Bungie, but it does with Microsoft.

Billy built that company from the ground up (well, as far as I know). Though it's something easy to make fun of (all hail Bill Gates Der Meister!!), Microsoft isn't really a monopoly. Windows and most of the Microsoft software is the 'Standard,' but it certainly isn't the one and only. I don't think there's anything wrong with a standard, but it's good to have the option of straying away from the standards and stuff.

It's like, someone out there starting up an original company, building it up, and then the Government takes it and splits you in half. That would suck...kinda discouraging...

The lesson? Never try.

I think all of you are forgetting what Operating system started you off..

I believe that in my Spear of Destiny and DOOM days.. MS DOS was the way to go.. along with Windows 3.1

We didn't think microsoft was so monopolistic then did we? And how far along was Linux? Unix is not an alternative OS for the consumer. Period.

I am no MS fanboy, but I do believe that Microsoft has done something good, just a little agressively and unskillfull.


Dopeman

Erm...everyone should read "Fire in the Valley". Michael Swaine is an excellent writer and it gives a nice history of these modern PCs.

Microsoft: If we don't own you, someday we will.

News flash kids (if anyone other than me is still following this)...

http://www.gamespy.com/news/june00/6-16-00-1.shtm
http://www.dailyradar.com/news/game_news_3471.html

I was holding out hope, but it looks like this is infact a done deal.

DAMNIT!

I'm gonna shot people if they delay Halo!!

Taken from www.3dactionplanet.com/halo

Thank god someone got a reply from Bungie! Gino from Planet X-Box mailed Doug about the situation with Microsoft and got this reply:
Well, you gotta understand that there have been countless rumors of people buying us over the years - Eidos, GT, Acclaim - and we've developed a policy of not fueling those mills by commenting on the rumors. In general, if you haven't heard something from us, it isn't true

WERE IS THE DEUS EX DEMO?!?!?!?

cover me cause --- Im Going In !

fyi, those @bungie.com comments are fakes from someone with a hotmail email account.

Thank God Steve's here to post this stuff... now all you MS employees hear this: if Halo is delayed til the release of x-box, we'll scream bloody murder! We'll all swear off Microsoft and install Linux!
.............

hahahaha, no seriously, PLEASE don't delay Halo. thanks :)

-mati

*Sigh*

Microsoft does deserve a pat on the back.
They don't deserve to be sliced and diced.
They've done great things for the consumer.

Do you honestly see your grandmother sitting down and reconfiguring her kernel to enable AGP support, and then coding her own release of GeForce drivers?

Honestly, you don't.

Microsoft has unified the industry. The MAC OS may be more reliable. Linux may be more reliable, but the root of a lot of that is hardware support. As compatibility goes up, often stability suffers. You will not find an OS out there that can support as many different devices as Windows 95/98/NT/2000 can. And for the choice of being able to go out and buy whatever piece of hardware I want, stick it in, and have it work beautifully, and be able to use it with the latest games.. (That are always released on my platform), sometimes.... my system crashes. Yes.. my 98 box crashes once every two or three days.
I for one, am not heartbroken.

*Shrug*

I'll keep on using MS products, because they continue to improve the industry and innovate.

Microsoft is a great integrator. When extended, they call it innovation.

There is another potential problem besides a 'delay' of Halo.
The CORPORATE SUITS. Once they start wandering the hallways, straightening thier ties and giving people sideways looks, watch the fuck out. I can already hear the comments being made in the 'interface meetings'....

"According to our marketing surveys, we need Halo to have a little more @$%^ this and a little less $&@#$. Perhaps a hidden 'pokemon' model, or even a 'pokemon' level. Our target demographic survey shows we would sell XXXXX more unit sales and XXXX more game sales. After all, it is a console game. {the 'suit' straightens his tie and his lackey sidekick smiles broadly} So, if you could get on that right away, we would appreciate it. Also, Mr. @#$%!@# has been sort of a problem, so we have to let him go. Please inform payroll and have security escort him from the building. After all, we're all family here at M$.... eh, Bungie, and sometimes you have to make adjustments."

The Billy Goat just wants to mount his ram in halos sweet spot

Damn you Billy G. DONT FUCK WITH HALO!

Money GooooooooooooD !!

Happy Consumer BaaaaaaaaaD !!

BTW, in the end, the bottom line is money, and the goal is to push as many units as possible.

Actually I hear the X box is supposed to around a bit sooner than 2002

Allright. Here goes.

Microsoft buying Bungie is one of those strange, twisted things, that will bring up so many different points that distract from the core argument. Console vs. PC, is Microsoft really Evil (yes), game delays, Halo vs. Whatever, etc.

What it all really boils down to, is how Microsoft purchasing Bungie, or a part of Bungie, will change Bungie as a whole, and if/how it will affect their games at all. Halo, in particular, isn't due for a while yet, and neither is the X-Box. I'm guessing we would've seen Halo before the X-Box, and if MS wanted to delay it, it would probably happen. Nobody even knows what the X-Box looks like yet, and the fact that it won't be around for another 2 years sort of makes it seem less impressive in the console scheme of things. Halo was a way off, but not that far...

The only thing that Microsoft can bring to the table in this agreement is money. There's nothing other than money that they have, and Bungie wants. And there are much better publishing houses that could invest in Halo, or Bungie in general. MS has an AVERAGE track record with games. Some are good, some plain suck, and some don't even get noticed. It's a toss up. Other publishers are available that won't mess with Bungie's original vision/concept for Halo, and it'd probably be very worthwhile for Bungie to look for some, *if* they need the money. Otherwise, let them put it out themselves! Bungie's made amazing games in the past, and always on their own terms. The Marathon series is incredible, Myth was just as good and innovative, and Halo and Oni were looking to re-shape their respective genres as well.

Is this just another case of Microsoft seeing some cool technology (GUI, etc.) and then wanting to take it for themselves? Probably. They've never done it for any reason other than their own profits before though, and I wouldn't trust them to do it again. I don't want to see Halo being played over the Zone, cause it SUCKS, and I don't want Halo to be anything other than what Bungie wants it to be. As for the buisness side of it, if the Bungie guys need a publisher, at least find one that doesn't have the reputations/legal troubles/problems that Microsft does. Bungie is about games, Microsoft is about money. The two have never gone well together, and just because it's Bungie and MS doesn't mean they will now, either.

OutOfStep

M$ sux meaty alligator cock.
plain and simple.

I'm surprised no one has made an account named "anon@www.bungie.com" and said this is absolutely true just to fuck with everyone.

Okay guys I saw this at a comp show and i need some advice

Is 350 a good price for a p3 733?

heh...

Bungie was first a mac only developer... or at least they developed on a mac...

Ohh.. I know.. sign with MS, BUT don't let them debut with halo.. let halo debut for the pc, work out all the bugs and let MS debut with the halo expansion pack(included with halo for their title game)... see works for everyone




HAPPINESS :)