Mojang: Bethesda refused offers to compromise on 'Scrolls' dispute

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  This really is a strange situation and the fact that no one from bethesda has said anything about it make... : ajvitaly
  • Both sides were still really cagey and Steam never said anything particularly snipe-y about EA. I don' : qsylvr
  • it's not really strange. one is a very large company with a lot at stake and a certain structure to how t... : dahanese
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  I really wish they all would stop saying Bethesda when its actually Zenimax their holding company. : Zerbyte
  • ZeniMax is the holding company that owns Bethesda, yes. Notch, however, says Bethesda in his quotes. I ca... : XAVdeMATOS
  • Even Notch has referred to the party suing him as Bethesda, not Zenimax. : dfay
  • Bethesda and Zenimax are the same company, it's only 2 different names on paper for legal protection. In ... : pizzaput
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  I'm a bit worried Notch is being way to open about these proceedings. Could bite him in the ass if he's n... : sebconn
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    Law is a son of a bitch But yeah, his talking about this, while refreshing in a sense for us fans, mig... : GigiLeCheshire
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      depends on where the trial takes place? Isn't he in Sweden? From what I've seen and heard of european leg... : shirif
      • Huh? Few European countries share the same juridistication and their trial process are sometimes quite di... : Curike
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  Robert Altman is the chairman and CEO......Notch is screwed. : ErichTopp
  • why? He'll write and direct a long form film based on the intertwining lives of otherwise unconnected cha... : Fyunch Click
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  I don't understand how Bethesda/Zenimax has much ground to stand on here. It's just the word scrolls. N... : lightbulbsocket
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    Hostile takeover actually seems to make a bit of sense. : AgentPothead
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      That would only work if Mojang was a publicly traded company. Which it isn't. : ysbreker
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        Don't be too sure. If you can establish that certain intellectual property is, in fact, yours, you can e... : TheMongbat
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          Considering the only property they appear to be going after is the trademark, that seems unlikely here. : Conan
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            Trademark law, if I am not mistaken, can go further into it than just the name. For example, I'll make a... : TheMongbat
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              Pretty sure that's not trademark law. Trademark protects a source of origin essentially. Bethesda will ha... : grummz
              • Yeah, I think you might be right. Still, since we haven't seen the actual lawsuit docs, it's hard to say... : TheMongbat
            • I'm not a trademark lawyer, but I do know trademark is much more limited than that. I think you're referr... : Conan
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        More like bankrupt him with lawyer fees and then offer to buy everything cheap. : AgentPothead
        • This is basically what I was thinking. : lightbulbsocket
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  This could really damage Bethesda's reputation, especially with Skyrim not far away. It's a shame :( : niceguynick
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    Hurts reputation among who? Fanboys like yourself? The whole wording from Markus is to hurt them. Beth... : Curike
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      You're wrong. As I mentioned before, Bethesda and Zenimax are one and the same. The same people own and o... : pizzaput
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        That's not really how it works. Corporations already provide legal protection to owners, in most cases (... : TheMongbat
        • Thanks for the detailed perspective! : pizzaput
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  This whole thing seems ridiculous. If someone were to write a historical ficton/fantasy novel and title i... : lightly inclined
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    Trademarks are sorted into classes. Each class protects a specific use of a mark. The class here is proba... : grummz
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      What about if i wrote a fantasy novel called A Storm Of Daggers : boring gegtik
      • Not everyone trademarks their titles and whatnot. I recall Edgar Rice Burroughs' estate was able to shut ... : Conan
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  Everyone please read this: http://kotaku.com/5846111/mojang-v-bethesda-or-i-hate-it-when-mommy-and-dad : mechanicalgrape
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    it just seems weird to me that someone can come in and try to trademark a commonplace word, the whole sit... : qwpeoriu
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      "of" is my word. and ill sue you if you use it! : rtrson
      • ofcourse you will. : one random winner
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      purpose of a trademark, think Apple, Gateway, or Valve.. Each is a common word but are heavily associate... : watcherxp
      • When you say any of the above words I instantly think of those companies. When you say "scrolls", all I ... : Topsiderover
      • I'm going to create the world's first apple gateway valve. You turn it and the door opens and apples com... : zebosausamite
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        I really hope Bethesda gets bounced. If you want to copyright 'scrolls', it can't just be one word in you... : HockeyJohnston
        • By the sounds of it Betheseda is on the defense here, where Notch is on an attack. Bethesda likely would... : SlingBlaze
      • aren't they also just one word titles? : Jikim
    • tons of words are trademarked already for video games exactly like this one. : dahanese
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    Apparently Notch is a manipulating asshole. Might as well just say it. : MercFox1
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      Alternatively, you shouldn't really be looking to Kotaku for insightful coverage. : Conan
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        i think that's what notch is counting on - that gamers will read his tweets, blog, and short blurbs on ga... : dahanese
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          Yeah this is information is quite a bit different. You can use these one word common things in specific segments but trying to make it fly in every domain is problematic. I mean Microsoft doesn't have a trademark on Windows in every market segment.

          Oct 05, 2011 11:33am PDT
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          Yeah this is information is quite a bit different. You can use these one word common things in specific s... : Chod
          • correct - but gamers complaining that "windows" is not something that anyone can claim is silly. that's j... : dahanese
        • I wasn't saying that people shouldn't look at the claims, just that Kotaku really aren't people I'd trust... : Conan
        • I would never have read that article if Notch hadn't linked it. I imagine I'm not alone. : roggor
    • You're a mindless Beth fanboy. Might as well just say it. : pizzaput
  • I still support Notch even though he might not be handling this the best way, it just rubs me the wrong w... : datoo
• Mojang's up coming title, Rolled Parchment, is being sued by Pilsbury, the dough boy feels "slightly infr... : Fletcherhea
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  Notch is playing the gaming nerds like a violin. He's an asshole, a naive asshole. : rasputinreborn
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    But is he Hitler? : thebigbeefsandwich
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      He's Hitler's naive asshole. : one random winner
      • Those unspoiled assholes are the best ones! : Clasifyd
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  Whatever. Seriously whatever. Bastards have millions of dollars to throw around over some BS that won't e... : nientiendo
  • you can own trademarks on words, actually. this is the way business works. both companies have lots o... : dahanese
  • your name is borderline copyright infringement btw : boring gegtik
  • You can't own words, I'm sorry. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark A trademark is typically a : Downforce
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