Torchlight 2 priced at $20, final class revealed

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  $20?! Bought. : pun][sher
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    ^^^ This : valcan_s
    • same! : vertdang
• Woah! : Chipwarrior
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  the biggest feature this game needs is release date before diablo 3 LOL : spiderfill
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    Are people really gonna flip 180 on buying this because they can get D3 instead? I buy the games I'm inte... : Chipwarrior
    • In this case, I think so. Shame, because T2 is going to own. : JohnnyRey
    • More that i'll be too busy playing Diablo 3 to bother with another game. : jra101
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      If I had to choose one or the other, I'd pick Matt Fucking Uelmen. : pyide
      • IAWMFU. : Memphis-Ahn
    • No, but Runic can capitalize on the excitement for D3 by releasing Torchlight 2 early. I imagine there w... : Herman Toothrot
    • Possibly. I'll forget about this completely if I'm knee deep is diablo spawn when it comes out. : walker270
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      I loved Torchlight immensely, but if I have Diablo 3 in my hands before Torchlight 2 is released, I won't... : ecclesio
      • Pretty much my sentiments exactly. Diablo 3 will just be a different class. : rottdcorpse
    • No, but I'll probably put it on the back burner for at least a year. : Witch_Doctor
    • If both came out at the same time, I'd buy Diablo 3 and not touch this until it was on sale. If it com... : Vincent Grayson
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      I'll buy both. TL2 @ $20 is a fucking steal but Diablo 3 will be a much better/bigger game. People who ... : jingletard
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        if I'm currently playing D3 a shitload there's really not much point in picking up a game that's extremel... : derelict515
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          Also, is Torchlight 2 really still going to be $20? I just assumed as a much bigger game than the first i... : Vincent Grayson
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            Read the post that started this thread :P : pyide
            • Yeah, I just noticed that. I'll probably buy it at launch either way at that price. : Vincent Grayson
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          I still think TL2 will be out before D3. It's not as massive of a game and there aren't nearly as many b... : jingletard
          • yeah that's what I expect too, just saying that as much as I'm looking forward to both, if they're both o... : derelict515
    • No, but I am in a goddamn frenzy for some modern, coop Diablo gameplay. I fucking want to play it BEFORE... : yAak
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      More like 360. : Mad Brahmin Disease
      • And then walk away. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    I wholly disagree with you. They both have their place. This is like comparing a Subraru Impreza and a hi... : geedeck
    • you would buy an impreza and a bmw on the same day? what would you do with 2 cars? : spiderfill
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      Calling D3 an Impreza may offend some people. : SlingBlaze
      • I think he's calling D3 the high-end BMW, and the T2 the Impreza. This analogy only works if we're tal... : code-e255
  • I'm buying it instead, so it really doesn't matter before or after. : Ebu
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    It's funny to me how much negative attention Diablo 3 can get, and yet people are dead set on getting it ... : ajvitaly
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      hahahaha i can tell you didn't read any of the developer commentary on those changes. it's not simplifica... : DrFlammable
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        I actually like going back to the vendor and getting a break in the action. : JohnnyRey
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          are you serious? That shit is the WORST : kainen1
          • really? Maybe I am broken =( : JohnnyRey
        • I agree, gives you a break and gives your group time to restock/trade/chit chat. : aethyr
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        Yeah instant selling of items should be available in Fallout and Elder Scrolls games and Borderlands beca... : ajvitaly
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          Did you or did not you read their explanation for the skill changes? What is your actual point of content... : derelict515
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            I actually do not have a point of contention with them. My point originally was that, a game like Torchli... : ajvitaly
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              even if D3 continues it's trend with more and more controversial / bad news regarding features, gameplay, : derelict515
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                I have not been thrilled about any announced "improvement" to Diablo 3. Many of them I feel are outrigh : Ebu
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                  yes I'm well aware, that would put you in the minority : derelict515
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                    nnnnno. no, it wouldn't. : master_disaster_17
                    • if you honestly believe the majority of Diablo fans care about online only DRM, let alone to the point of... : derelict515
                • You will be missed... jk we will all be too busy playing diablo-fucking-three!!!! : Smirks D
            • The stuff you listed as "bad news" for Diablo 3 can be considered good news or (at worse) a no-op by many... : walker270
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              Of course not. You talk about simplification -- Torchlight's systems were several orders of magnitude si... : bipolar
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                Of course, to players who aren't that invested in the game to the point where they care about understandi... : bipolar
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                  I don't know. I found most of the choices when building a character in Diablo to be largely superfluou : walker270
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                    I found most of the choices when building a character in Diablo to be largely superfluous. Generally you : derelict515
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                      Did you ever play any of the Sacred games? If so, did you really get into the build system? : walker270
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                        No, I didn't like the Sacred 1 demo and I never got around to 2 since it has failed to be at a reasonable... : derelict515
                        • Even in hell, I would run with most of my attribute points unassigned, just because they didn't make much... : walker270
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                    I'm assuming you never did the high-end end game stuff (uber trist, uber diablo)? Or maybe even play in ... : bipolar
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                      I'm not saying the game allows you to throw all of your points around willy-nilly. I'm saying each suc... : walker270
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                        Attribute points vs skill points are very different though. The former certainly did not have the weight ... : derelict515
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                          Right, but I'm talking about the build as a whole -- not just how you allocate points in a skill tree. H... : walker270
                          • certainly, I'm just saying that just because the attribute system was meh didn't leave lots of depth in t... : derelict515
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                Well I doubt D3 will have the complexity of D2 also. : Memphis-Ahn
                • We'll see. Given the runestone system, the skills will have far more options and variety than Diablo 2 : bipolar
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                ..several orders of magnitude simpler than Diablo 2.. Pfft. Please. : Ebu
                • no that's pretty much right. Fewer classes, fewer skills per class (and poorly balanced ones at that, Emb... : derelict515
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                  Does TL have charts to track the various breakpoints per class? http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Breakpoint... : bipolar
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                    I won't disagree that D2 has more depth than TL but IAS breakpoints come from it being a 2D game with ani... : kyrieee
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                      your second statement does not follow from the first : derelict515
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                        It does. It's not intentional design because it's a technical reason. : kyrieee
                        • No, that still doesn't follow. The technical reasons didn't just spring out of the ether, they chose the ... : derelict515
                    • It's a side effect, but it's still intentional. Otherwise, they could have the same IAS / FCR / FBR rate... : bipolar
                • Torchlight as a game is more closer in comparison to Diablo, I never understood all the people who felt t... : pyide
    • that's because the people bitching about those things aren't even 1% of Diablo fans and most of us don't ... : derelict515
    • None of those 4 points matter to me. As long as the gameplay is sharp and responsive, as long as the abi... : action wombmate
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      I wasn't aware of this instant sell business. Link to info? : ecclesio
      • You'll have two items in your inventory -- one converts items to gold, the other breaks down items into c... : bipolar
    • All those are positives to me. (I don't really care about the always online part but if it helps keep the... : OmegaRed59
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      This is a truly horrible post. Everything you listed results in a net positive if you take the time to a... : lefthighkick
      • I just turn my brain off when shacking. : omnova
      • shhh NO no no NO, must blindly react! unnggggggg aklsdjflkjasdf : yAak
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        Everything he listed? No. I do not agree. Real money auction house I'm ok with, though concerned it m... : Ebu
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          Explain to me how it's a killer, exactly. I'm not trying to be obtuse, I really want to know what the co... : action wombmate
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            I don't want my singleplayer game to be dependent on always-online DRM. Good enough? : master_disaster_17
            • Not wanting it and considering it a "killer" are not really the same thing in my head. : action wombmate
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            Travel, military service, living in areas that aren't profitable enough for cable companies to string lin... : fractured_sanity
            • Yea, being in the military is making these online only games a real pain : darkfox321
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              Travel - who needs to play Diablo when you're traveling? If you're on vacation, computer games should be... : action wombmate
              • Blizzard can start telling these segments of their customers to go fuck themselves if they want. They've... : capt tripps
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                Apologies Womb, started on my beergoggles early. All of those are legitimate complains in the context ... : fractured_sanity
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                  They've earned it (the arrogance), but it doesn't make them fans. You can also see it in their response ... : capt tripps
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                    WoW'ification? Dear lord. : action wombmate
                    • I'm not saying it's bad graphically, but they did switch from Blizzard North (closed) to the studio that ... : capt tripps
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                  Their reasons weren't flimsy. It's not feasible to create two independent and disjoint versions of the : walker270
                  • oh, and it's nice to see this site still has the less-than bug. The rest of the post said creating som : walker270
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            I'm in college in a dorm. There isn't wifi all over my campus. I can't take a 20 minute break to play s... : TheVietSpecial
            • This can't be a serious post. Not being able to play for 20 whole minutes? : action wombmate
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          Online only is necessary once you have RMAH. A client-server setup is much more secure -- not allowing the client to have all the code on their machine means it is much harder to find ways to exploit the code. If there was an offline single player mode, all the code would necessarily be on the client pc where it could be dissassembled and analyzed at leisure.
          
          With a RMAH, the last thing Blizzard wants is to have the duped / hacked / bugged item plague that infested Diablo 2. In fact, they owe it to the playerbase to ensure the auction house is completely legit and scam free. How upset would players be if they couldn't sell shit on the auction house because some hackers had duped a thousand copies of every item and were undercutting all the legit players' prices?

          Aug 26, 2011 2:22pm PDT
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          Online only is necessary once you have RMAH. A client-server setup is much more secure -- not allowing t... : bipolar
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            I'd be happy. Besides, what's the point of the auction house if not to let chinese bot players sell their... : master_disaster_17
            • if something is inevitable, it is often best to accept that fact and craft systems to make it better than... : derelict515
            • Here's a crazy thought: If RMT is going to happen no matter what Blizzard does (and it will), then why N : yAak
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          I want someone to write up a solid argument that by simplifying and increasing the versatility of the ski... : yAak
          • PS - Here's some things potential posters DON'T get to use as an argument: - "Not forced to make choi : yAak
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      Always online - sucks Real money auction house - awesome Simplified skill tree - wait and see instant ... : SlingBlaze
      • This is my gut reaction, also. I'm not really bothered with the real money AH; it's not a feature I'd... : Ebu
    • - Always online = D3 ships before 3rd Quarter 2012 and/or has more work put into more important things = : yAak
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  After seeing some video and interviews of this game and seeing how fleshed-out it is, it never crossed my... : ]aratex[
  • agreed, heck with this at 20 I can avoid the $60 D3 for quite a while. : FreshwaterAU
• omg it's too colorful : DM7
• This is awesome news. : FreshwaterAU
• Instant buy. : Navy Spitfire
• that pricing is good enough to where even I, a frothing D3 fanatic, will pick it up regardless of its pro... : R@zzle
• Will probably get this, though I might wait for sale (provided the sale happens prior to D3). While I co... : johnny rotten
• I'll buy 3 copies and have 10x more enjoyment as COD:MW3. : Sir_Shaggy
• Excellent news. They've got my money again. : VictoriouSecret
• Awesome price, I can't wait to play more Torchlight. :) : king_darius
• insta buy : okellyc
• I have to say, that's the most disappointing 'Engineer' class I've ever seen implemented. : graah
• But when does it come out?! I want to give them my monies! : Frozen Pixel
• What's the current release date? October? : ctlaltl33t
• This game just went to a Day 1 purchase for me. Thanks to the $20 price. : AltZero
• Awesome. Played it at E3 and loved it, can't wait : Serpico74
• Still playing the first one, but I'm glad to see multiplayer in this. That was one of the few things I r... : darthfusion
• Day 1 purchase for me, would have been even at a higher price or with Diablo 3 near. Loved the first one ... : Johnnsen
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  I will buy 107 copies. : limpossible
  • Someone at Steam should make a 107-pack for sale haha : Sailor of Fortune
  • I already did and gave them away. My camera's broken or else I'd take a picture of the receipt : porp
• Gave it a go today in PAX. Looked great, tons of little ambient animations, polish, details, etc. : jake
• Wow. The co-op pretty much had me sold, but at that price it's an easy pre-purchase for my whole group. : DinK
• LAN??? Hell yeah! Buying this! And will purchase the first torchlight. See fucking blizzard? Take cues fr... : 3dchipset
• I would have payed more for this game... Thanks for not screwing us Runic : JUVE1986