Duke Nukem Forever sales lower Take-Two revenue estimates

by Andrew Yoon, Jul 05, 2011 9:30pm PDT

Related Topics – Duke Nukem Forever, Take-Two, Duke Nukem Series

Duke Nukem Forever may not be the sales success that publisher 2K Games and parent company Take-Two Interactive had expected. While its eventual release drew a lot of attention, it appears the fanfare hasn't translated into the numbers originally expected. According to Gamasutra, analyst firm Wedbush Morgan lowered its fiscal Q1 estimates for the company thanks to drastically lower sales than originally predicted. Initial estimates predicted sales of 3 million; the company now expects half that.

Offsetting the disappointing sales of Duke Nukem Forever is LA Noire, which is now expected to sell between 3.5 and 4 million copies. Ironically, in spite of Duke's less-than-warm reception, it's more likely to receive a sequel than Team Bondi's troubled crime thriller.

Duke Nukem Forever will also be available on Mac in August. A PC version of LA Noire will be available this Fall.

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Andrew Yoon posted a new article, Duke Nukem Forever sales lower Take-Two revenue estimates.

Duke Nukem Forever may not be the sales success that publisher 2K Games and parent company Take-Two Interactive had expected.

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  It was probably piracy... : MuteMode
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    nah, it was the upside down logo on some promo stuff that confused people. : retardhumper
    - I was afraid the Redner Group was going to rape my cat if I didn't like the game so I didn't buy it. He s... : uglysad
  - I lol'd. : jtthe2nd
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  It had nothing to do with the quality of the game. There was a concentrated effort by the gaming communit... : Crabs Jarrard
  - marketing team might have helped : umegastar
  - lol : pancake humper
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    I'm sure this sounds tinfoilhat-ish, but reviewers with an axe to grind handing out 3/10 scores to look c... : EricZBA
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      What axe were they grinding? Did DNF existing slight them personally somehow? : Haxim
      
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      Don't try and argue with the DNF defense squad. Obviously anyone who didn't like it is full of shit. : justwr!ght
      
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      I can see how some people could get the impression reviewers were handling out 3/10s to look cool, it was... : Haxim
      
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      Maybe axe to grind wasn't the right phrase to use. Maybe some reviewers felt that it deserved failure sin... : EricZBA
      
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      I think some of the reviews were just "hanging with the traffic". Take for example how PC Gamer gave t... : Schnapple
      
      I think it's easy to dismiss PC Gamer's reviews because they are known for highly inflated scores. : datoo
      
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      In an industry where a 5/10 usually means the game will randomly segfault on you multiple times a minute,... : walker270
      
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      There was nothing good about DNF. : justwr!ght
      
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      Was it playable, from a technical standpoint, on any platform? That's usually enough to get a 7/10 or be... : walker270
      
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      Why does it deserve a 7 just for being playable? It's a bad game. : justwr!ght
      
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      ... because that's how the 10-point review scale is implemented? Unplayable games get less-than 6. Pl... : walker270
      
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      If that's the rating scale everyone uses than I am glad I don't buy games based on it . : danws6
      
      Yeah, that's why I don't. At best I'll go by word-of-mouth, or see how the game falls wrt a score of 6... : walker270
      
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      I think he's saying that the low scores are not consistent with how these publications have acted prior t... : Schnapple
      
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      But that's just bullshit. Games get low scores all the fucking time. Look at Jeff Gerstmann for example. ... : justwr!ght
      
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      that's one rogue guy who reviews games. : Lucy Labia
      
      Rogue? : rodneystubbs
      
      It doesn't, but that's how the review system works. : Lucy Labia
      
      perhaps it got 6 for being playable minus 3 for being severely offensive to them on every level : MamiyaOtaru
      
      Being playable is 7/10? Jesus.... thank god you don't review games. : zombie man
      
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      Jeff Gerstmann, June 2006 rant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=698llLo1T94 Take that, and every other ... : the archvile
      
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      I've said this before, but I really don't think that Jeff has any axe to grind with DNF. He sounds genui... : slax0r
      
      plus jeff is grumpy about everything they should name him Grumpy Jeff : spiderfill
      
      Jeff *loved* Borderlands, hated DNF. : HockeyJohnston
      
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      It was Jeff: http://www.giantbomb.com/duke-nukem-forever/61-20721/reviews/ Posting that video was w... : pancake humper
      
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      My mistake. I still don't think he was foaming at the mouth waiting for the game to be released just so ... : slax0r
      
      I completely agree. : pancake humper
      
      Some people don't like a game you like. Some people hate it. It's not a fucking conspiracy. What you're a : dex.collins
      
      You're the Gerstmann of DRM. : Crabs Jarrard
      
      If you approach it as "a museum piece," or sorts, then it has failed as a game. : Rice-Rocketeer
    - just like movie reviews? gotta jump on that hate train and be super polarizing. : Downforce
    - the average consumer doesnt view anything outside of ign, gamespot and 1up reviews anyways : rtrson
  - right wing conspiracy http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/images/07-minister.jpg : spiderfill
  - hahahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHA : maulla
  - 0_o : Godhatesfatpeople
  - Lol, DNF doing well would ruin pc and console games. That's a new one. : AlvinKlein
  - ok then : skelom
  - ^^^truther : Hoax
  - If Bin Laden was still alive the game would have done better. But DNF came out too late. : Sailor of Fortune
  - Nice, Crabs. : Dschinghis Khan
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    I love it when you can't tell if someone is trolling or not. : romulan
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      lol, how could anyone not tell? : pyide
      
      I was really trying my hardest. : Crabs Jarrard
  - This guy is amazing. : Sgt_Boomstick
  - Hahaha awesome, Crabs. : Nitrium
  - You are an epic troll : MercFox1
  - Forever, forever-ever, forever-ever? : Lawgiver
  - Oh, for fuck sakes. No. : Rice-Rocketeer
  - I have to know how would it succeeding ruin pc/console gaming? : OutlawSundown
  - Very well executed!! : The Grolar Bear
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    The amount of people taking Crabs seriously really makes me D: : MamiyaOtaru
    - Well, I can't speak for the others, but in my defense...there's been a ton of this type of talk going aro... : Rice-Rocketeer
  - This guy is my new favorite shacker : timaste
  - wtf is going on here. lmfao : zombie man
  - You are so funny. : Fred Garvin
  - LEAVE DNF ALOEN! : Ride-My-Rocket
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  This is what happens when you take the better part of a generational gap to develop a game. I just lost ... : Inarion
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    therell probably be 12 years between diablo 2 and diablo 3 : spiderfill
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      but diablo 3 will be a good game : rodneystubbs
      
      QED : spiderfill
      
      That remains to be seen. We can assume it will be, hope it will be, want it to be, but until we're al... : Ebu
      
      OWNED : zombie man
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    This is the DNF I wanted to play: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-BPJajW-Sc If they had finished that... : pyide
  - This is how long DNF took to come out. When I was in 8th grade, I played Duke3D. When DNF came out, I... : 0mar
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  If you'd have told me 5 years ago that I wasn't going to buy DNF I would have laughed at you. But here I ... : marmite
  - Same. When it resurfaced a few years ago I was excited. Then the shutdown and gearbox thing pretty much ... : danws6
  - just wait a year and it will be on sale for $10 or less : retardhumper
  - Same. Before I played the demo I wasn't overly enthused or hopeful for the game. After playing the demo m... : jtthe2nd
- shocking : justwr!ght
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  Well, bummer. Better luck next time Duke! : baron calamity
  - Sometimes bet on Duke : VivaMachete
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  Whatever, I got to play the game finally and I now have closure. To be 100% honest, unless the game manag... : freakynipples69
  - Yeah, I'm enjoying it, I'm having fun playing the game and exactly as you said, I get to see the game and... : Gwyndion
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  Any news on modding tools for the PC version or some 360 loving to fix those loading times? : ghost in my shell
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    They said no mod tools. : justwr!ght
    - Citation? I know they haven't said there will be mod tools, but I haven't seen where they've stated t... : Schnapple
- The only people who knew about the game were people who know its catastrophic history, and its a $5 game ... : Zero Hoki
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  SHOCKING!!!! : skelom
  - The shocking part is that they were expecting 3 million in sales. : AlvinKlein
- They expect 1.5 million copies to sell? I would be celebrating! : grandmasterlee
- If they charged a reasonable amount I woulda bought it, but full price? Will wait for a good Steam sale. : Zerbyte
- So... Michael Pachter (or his parent company) being a douche? "...analyst firm Wedbush Morgan lowered : the archvile
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  The core problem with DNF is audience. There are two audiences for DNF: 1. Older gamers who were aware... : dfay
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    I think #3 would be older gamers who loved DN3D back in the day and snatched up the game both for nostalg... : Schnapple
    - I fall into group 3 and actually enjoyed the game. It is flawed and not a masterpiece but I just don't ge... : DeschainVox
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  I wonder how many copies it did sell. Also, in lieu of the PC-centric nature of the game, plus the GMG pr... : Schnapple
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    They estimated 3+ million and expect 1.5 million in sales. Which is still really good for that game, I'd ... : pyide
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      Yeah but is that 1.5M by the end of the year? Or 1.5M ever? And how many have they sold as of right now? ... : Schnapple
      
      The internet is saying the sales are only half that so far (~700k, with the 360 leading followed by PS3 a... : pyide
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  they'll sell a bunch when steam and the other online stores start doing sales : crypt420
  - Ya, when it takes $15 I will consider it. : Sgt_Boomstick
  - I was hoping to see it around $30 during these steam sales. We'll see. : danws6
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  took crysis months to break sales of 1M. big deal. : badcaps
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    There are a few reasons why the two are different. Crysis was on just one platform, and most people at th... : sigpro
    - Plus it released right next to CoD4 and UT3. Both Epic and Crytek threw a hissy fit that it took them so... : the archvile
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      No way! It was 100% piracy. Ask Crytek. It had nothing to do with the game being platform restricted, b... : badcaps
      
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      PC gamers, everyone! : walker270
      
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      http://i.imgur.com/9Cgp5.jpg : badcaps
      
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      DERP ... You cited "brutally avant garde hardware requirements" and "fuck all for optimization." C... : walker270
      
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      Oh, and Crysis was more than playable (not to mention better looking than anything else out there) if you : walker270
      
      This is truth and anybody who complained about that shit is a fucking moron. Medium ran great on midrange... : RetroRedEyeJr
      
      What a bizarre apoplectic little creature you are. You're shadowboxing. : badcaps
      
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      As opposed to the console gamers who skipped the "respectable individual stage" and went straight for the... : wfalcon
      
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      Because console gamers aren't really "gamers", right? : ColoradoCNC
      
      Ah - you assume I don't play a console. I have an xbox 360, but the quality of players in multi leaves a... : wfalcon
      
      Damn son you got us all figured out. : The Grolar Bear
      
      Crysis still looks better than DNF and runs better. Comparing DNF to Crysis is not a good idea. : spazzium
      
      ^^ knows what's up : Alastayr
      
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      Make a game that can be maxed out on current hardware: OMG NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF MY SUPERION 983000!!!!... : ColoradoCNC
      
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      You also can't win by making stupid generalizations that can fit any demographic you want to deride. : dex.collins
      
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      I recognize your name, so you've been around here for awhile, so you can't deny that both of those types : ColoradoCNC
      
      No you're right about that. And there's a group of people who'll bitch about anything just for the sake o... : dex.collins
      
      Have you considered that there were two separate reactions to Crysis? Maybe some people really liked that... : SpaecKow
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  Did anyone think that this game was actually going to sell well? : Sgt_Boomstick
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    randy pitchford probably : JohnnyDanger
    - I bet even he had reservations. : Sgt_Boomstick
    - Nah, I think he even said they were bracing for a beating (can't find the source, though). : The Grolar Bear
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  As a long ago Duke 3d fan, the best part of that game was the awesome multiplayer. In all of the reviews ... : djdisco
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    I'm afraid you're wrong. Single player is not crap at all. : at0micgarden
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      he thinks it is, you think it isn't. You are shooting yourself in the foot here if you are trying to sel... : MamiyaOtaru
      
      Lol. You didn't see the part where he said he hasn't played it. : at0micgarden
  - Someone else had to buy the game to play with you... I kid I kid : mobab
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  long development, crappy marketing... yeah didn't see this coming : Korban
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    oh, and let's not forget the raving reviews : Korban
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      How about uninspired game design and gameplay? : jtthe2nd
      
      i never played it, so i wouldn't know. all i know is that for the 3 reasons i listed, i did not purchase ... : Korban
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  Well, I guess making DNF console friendly really paid dividends huh? 2 weapon limt my ass. Way to underes... : jtthe2nd
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    Console gaming has nothing to do with it. There are plenty of major, successful games on the 360 that ha... : Poor Yurik
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      Broussard disagrees.
      Just a few random posts on the subject, but there are more:
      
      http://www.shacknews.com/chatty?id=23904897
      http://www.shacknews.com/chatty?id=23931239
      http://www.shacknews.com/chatty?id=26031903
      
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      Broussard disagrees. Just a few random posts on the subject, but there are more: http://www.shacknews.co... : GreatGooglyMoogly
      
      wow..he really was blinded by bad design choices. Bad designers can ruin games, case in point, Lair. Al... : deathofrats
  - What a bunch of sour grapes you are. I'm willing to bet the consolitis had nothing to do with this things... : Sgt_Boomstick
  - Or, just maybe, gameplay standards evolved in the years since Duke Nukem 3D's release. That seems much mo... : ColoradoCNC
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  What a waste of money this DNF was... What the hell was 2k thinking, Oh I know GearBox will put it's ove... : TotalRecall
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    So you played it? : Halen
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      Saw this earlier today; knew you wouldn't get an answer. : dognose
      
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      Somehow I did too :D : Halen
      
      I played it and I agree! :) : justwr!ght
    - this is the worst argument i've seen anywhere today. Thanks for filling that quota. : deathofrats
- For a game that has been called vaporware for several years now, selling 1.5 million units still seems qu... : Lukiopimp
- It kind of blows my mind how much money they spent on the advertising campaign. I obviously don't have h... : soggybagel
- I blame gibbie and his bathroom tweets. : cerealSAM2
- For what it's worth, I really enjoyed the single player campaign for Duke Nukem Forever. The story didn't... : Goblin au
- Make a crap game and sell it for full price and you get what you deserve. I'm dissapointed that 1.5millio... : apocreg
- Whaaat. No way... I don't believe it. : zombie man
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  At-least I got a mouse pad. : NukemForever
  - That I paid for. : NukemForever
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  I knew this game was gonna suck as soon as they actually started showing footage. There is no excuse for ... : f4lln
  - ... : Goblin au
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    don't blame the artists/programmers/designers attached to the project, they are innocent and had nothing ... : deathofrats
    - You mean the ones that were playing wow at work? : Frush81
    - You mean the ones that were playing wow at work? : Frush81
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  Did everybody miss the part where this is all just analyst speculation? : jason bergman
  - "Initial estimates predicted sales of 3 million; the company now expects half that." I assume 'the com... : Bull
  - it looks like it. analysts. what a bunch of overrated idiots. : fw_rams

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