PGC Technology Canned

Glad I didn\'t buy a TNT2.. Pretty soon you\'ll be able to buy 10 of those cards for a nickel.

-Zag

#8
the board that will be released friday is the V3:3500...you are confusing me:)
Lodgikal

Something that you guys are forgetting (I\'m guilty of it too) is that the NV10 has been under construction for a very long time.

1. They can reuse a LOT of very, very solid driver code from TNT/2 cards. Even with a different chipset, many of the functions are the same. New stuff will need new code, though...
2. They haven\'t been working on this since the TNT 2 release, but since the TNT 1 release or sooner. The TNT 2 was just a tweaked TNT, and took very little development, so they could still work with the NV10 before.
3. The engineers at nvidia have proven themselves to be technical whizzes, as they quickly caught up (TNT) and surpassed (TNT 2) 3dfx, even though 3dfx had a great head start (they made voodoos before anyone thought stuff like that would sell).

WTF, did we all miss something here? these friggin chipmakers seem to have forgotten all about the gamer. This has truly turned into a silicon pissing contest. I am wondering when they will come out with a new and fast architecture. I am tired of chipmakers tweaking their drivers and adding memory. Voila! the superduper SLI phat monkey 2000!
We are not cattle. We need speed and features. We need a one card solution. We can wait 6 months for a better card.

My two cents

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See this is exactly why i skiped the tnt2 and voodoo 3 gen of cards. I was and still am perfectly happy with my tnt/sli como and i saw no need to change to a higher clocked version. Now one Christmas comes around ill be gettin me either a nv10 or naplam or whatever i think is the bes card out. By the way when is the camino chipset gonna come out?

Ok, just read the bulletin regarding Voodoo4.

I\'d like to call your attention to the following:

\"3Dfx Interactive will release a new version of its Voodoo 3 graphics card on Friday, Chief Executive L. Gregory Ballard said Thursday. ...the Voodoo 4\"

Now this can be taken 2 ways.

1) The Voodoo 4 is (another!) reworking of the current voodoo architecture with some fixings (32 bit color to be sure, stencil, larger textures hopefully)

2) the nes snippet was fucked up and the V4 is indeed a new architecture.

I sure as shit hope its the latter and not the former for 3dfx\'s sake.

The NV10 is certainly sounding more and more likely. Now I\'m curious to see what 3dfx is going to announce on August 2nd. They wouldn\'t dare make a big deal out of a press release for a board that is going to get slapped around. Maybe we\'ll have two huge boards and low prices. Please 3dfx, come through, just to keep the prices down. The big problem with the NV10\'s release though is that although the NV10 chipset may be a reality, how long until a company can use that chipset and make a reliable board? Regardless, if they kick out a board real quick, the drivers are gonna bite big bootie. Hell, half the features probably wont be supported when it comes out.

#3 My thoughts exactly. I had given no credence at all to the rumors about a september board date. Alpha boards maybe I had thought. But if this is indeed the case (consumer boards in September) YOW!

But think about this: The original TNT was released last October. The design effort of going from the TNT to the TNT2 was basically nil. Essentially a die shrink and nothing else. If you look at that way then this is the true successor to the TNT and the ultra cards were merely souped up TNTs (which they are). Kindof takes the sting away. This situation (if indeed true) looks to be alot like the Banshee-Voodoo3 scenario (ie alot of banshee owners wer pissed when they bought their cards only to have the Voodoo3 released like 4 months later). Of course I dont recall the Banshee\'s ever costing $200-$250 US =).

The question is:
Should we take this as a confirmation that the NV10 release date in september is an actual fact, and not just a rumor? Put differently, does Alienware have more reliable sources than the rest of the community?

..I\'m not saying PGC shouldn\'t have been canned, I\'m just saying Alienware probably don\'t know more than us.

It\'s probably the NV10.

Hopefully they wont scrap the technology: imagine if they could get two NV10\'s working in SLI...