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  ThomW is on point with his comments as always! : Jonathan
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    http://gamewith.us/shackspace/modboard-lols.jpg : ThomW
    • LOL : HL3dsx
• I love what you guys are doing. The front page looks terrific and that style for the comments is easily m... : furiouschuck
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  Looks the same except now the colors make my eyes bleed =( : JohnnyRey
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    yeah, same here. too much contrast? : feek
    • I dunno, its easily the best revision thus far. : YerMothah
  • Same boat, what I like about the current palette is that it doesn't burn. : massdev
  • Least you can see the colors!! : HL3dsx
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  Will the game collection lists in our profiles be retained after the shackpocalypse? : Prozium
  • Yep, we're keeping the data. : ECO
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    further, will it work properly? I've tried nuking mario party x20 after I accidentally and it remains the... : uebersoldat
    • oh wait...it's gone now. uhh yeah so sorry about that.. carry on.. : uebersoldat
• I look forward to the increased coverage of arm wrestling! It is a much neglected sport. : Amadan
• Awesome! I actually really like that latest chatty image... the blue all of a sudden looks good (better t... : YerMothah
• My .02, the comments page looks great but the front page redesign is akin to Gizmodo's and IGN's disastro... : at0micgarden
• Man it's going to take some getting used to all the usernames being blue. Blue is supposed to only be for... : OverloadUT
• i think the most important thing about the shackpics situation is for the current/past urls to not be bro... : feek
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  Also hey, in the auto-generated article threads, why not include the first paragraph in the OP? I think I... : OverloadUT
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    Yeah, half of a sentence isn't really enough to pull me past the break. : ecclesio
    • ;lkjasf : [fry]
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    Great idea. Also a link to the article at the top of the thread would be nice. : re-verse
    • they have that in the second screenshot above : Hemtroll
  • Good idea. : ant_hillbilly
  • Definitely agree with this. : SockMonkeh
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    Yes, the original comp had the article posts with a blurb. Not sure on that status. Likely post launch a... : ECO
    • Yes please, especially since it'll make the RSS feed much more readable. : Dontdrop
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  That is really cool that you all have been so willing to listen to the community and take our feedback in... : ColoradoCNC
  • I know. I fucking love ECO. : ThomW
  • IAWTP. All hail the ECO! : thetangent
• I'm loving it. : yemeth
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  I like the new layout, but there's a lot of blue in the Chatty because of all the usernames being blue. : prime8
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    there's a lot of yellow in this chatty... : ass-street
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      but yellow doesn't make my eyes want to commit suicide! : JohnnyRey
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        you'll get used to it. : ass-street
        • I guess =( : JohnnyRey
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        I actually find the blue a lot better than the yellow : Hemtroll
        • Me too, very much so. : dumb.
        • It reminds me of those BRIGHT ASS BLUE LIGHTS that all electronics manufacturers seem to love putting on ... : Ebu
    • yellow stands out more and i find it easier on the eyes while briefly reading down a thread also that ... : dantastic
• I was happy with how you involved our API devs in your plans. Good show. : dael
• Why change the current palette out of curiosity? The blue names just do not look right : twifosp
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  WTF is with the blue background on the menu links top? : FiReaNG3L
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    looks like he's highlighted a bunch of stuff by mistake : Bamtan
    • I hope that's what it is, because it looks pretty weird otherwise. : rodneystubbs
• Are the timestamps going to be in the user's time zone? I like how all of haiku's screenshots are PST, bu... : tinfoilhatter
• That Chatty pic is SEXY! Thanks for letting haiku play a role in the styling. Y'all are doing great wor... : greenbergMD
• I like it. Thanks for sharing ECO. : jeffmoeller
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  I like the colors here. We're still going to have replies that fade with age though, right? : dfay
  • Ugh I am not being very clear today. I like the chatty colors shown in your screenshot, but all the repli... : dfay
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  Will news stories still let users make new threads in relation to that article or will they all be lumped... : Hemtroll
  • I imagine they'd just become subthreads in the main article thread : Arctic Fox
• Nooooo, bluuuueeee everybody looks like me! : gakera
• I'll be honest. This update makes me want to slap my pathetic white dick all over my face. In a good way.... : vile
• Both look great! Keep up the good work guys. : Begawkiness
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  For the record I love the blue it's much more relaxing : Delaric
  • I agree, I'm actually loving the blue a lot. I liked sandy vagina yellow best at first, but the blue has ... : mysled
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  something doesn't look right with that article page. the blue text blocks at the top sorta look ugly, is... : grendel
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    also if you are doing away with profiles, how do we shackmessage each other? : grendel
    • You use the Shackmessage icon by the person's name... That Haiku did away with in his tweaks... : Jonathan
  • my mistake. it's the articles hub. we're fixing some styling in articles and i didn't want to show anyt... : ECO
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  has anyone made a bluesnews joke yet? : Hoax
  • several : ECO
• I think I've fallen in love with the new colours already - Steve couldn't possibly have handed the shack ... : Durajim
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  hey ECO - Have you guys considered having threads that are still active but reaching their 24 hour date h : re-verse
  • Also, thanks for giving Haiku and everyone else such a great platform to implement their ideas. I think t... : re-verse
  • I'd prefer they just put a timer on threads or make them turn a ghostly color in their last hour so that ... : kaddar0
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    We don't want this because then they'll last forever. Monster threads suck! They break the page and mobil... : Dave-A
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      but its going to be very confusing when threads disappear, and not all at one. You KNOW all the threads a... : JohnnyRey
      • You haven't even tried it yet! : Dave-A
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        I'll also miss the threads that start up at the beginning of a new chatty that might get lost in the shuf... : rodneystubbs
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          Such is a revolution anyway. Things change. Why not bring back "stuff that sucks" while we're at it? : TheNiXXeD
          • .... : JohnnyRey
      • it wont be confusing, it will just be gone : dantastic
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    That would be horrible. Its good to move on. : pimpium
    • I'm not saying keep the thread for a day, i'm saying for 5 minutes - right when it goes with no activity ... : re-verse
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    i want threads to die after 24 hours : dantastic
    • i think it's better to have it as now where shit dies 2x a day but i can put up with 24 hours. i don't w... : dantastic
  • how will you know when you're posting in an expired thread? will there be a style change or a popup? : GloriousCow
  • Please do this!!!1 : ArtilleryMarker
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  Is anyone else going to be annoyed with every single auto-generated article thread because it gets the ev... : OverloadUT
  • I like that the shack doesn't have in line links because then you wouldn't know what you're getting when ... : kaddar0
• I like the blue names in the root post. : SockMonkeh
• Now that names are blue, s our own name shown as yellow? : kaddar0
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  What does the "Today's Top Games" list get generated from? : SirX
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    valcan_s types them in every morning : Dave-A
    • bwahahahaha oh man pool valcan : JohnnyRey
    • Lol. : Phreakin
    • haha : askedrelic
    • hahahah burn : virus
    • that is epic : pimpium
    • you couldn't have picked a better man for the job! : mindmann
    • damnit lol : opengl128
    • hehe. Accurate. : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • hahah! oh christ shack is in a funny mood today : xsii
    • Hahaha, nice. : thetangent
    • hahaha, fucking lol : Ride-My-Rocket
    • if they haven't already hired him for the job, they should! : CecilPhilpot
  • page views of the game page on Shack : ECO
• That article page looks pretty good actually. Much more lively than the homepage. :) : dumb.
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  Will/can there be an indication whether a thread is an active chatty thread? When you come across a th... : Johnny Law
  • Not a bad idea. : SockMonkeh
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    Yeah, a top 5 most active threads indicator on the frontpage à la Engadget would be pretty cool. : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • It also makes more sense than the last 10 interesting comments. : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • interesting idea : ECO
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    easy, just take the post time and add 24 hours. : nyranger66
    • we really shouldn't have to do that. : JohnnyRey
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      No that would be terrible. I would be very, very surprised if there is no "this thread has been archived"... : OverloadUT
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        Prepare to be very, very surprised :) Remember that the thread itself doesn't change. The query to bring ... : Dave-A
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          well then that is retarded and stupid. Who the fuck is making these terrible decisions? : JohnnyRey
          • This was Steve and haiku's idea years ago. : nyranger66
          • I think it's a great design. Much better than what we have now. : Dave-A
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          I don't fucking care what the query for latest chatty does. It would be extremely trivial to add: if (... : OverloadUT
          • I don't care how trivial it is to add, I think it would be weird. Whether the thread shows up in the late... : Dave-A
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        I don't know, I'm terrible at math, and it sounds easy enough for me :( : nyranger66
        • It's not about it being easy, it's about it being good UI design. It's fucking awful to be looking at a p... : OverloadUT
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    I don't think it's an issue now, and won't be with the new site. Let's try it first before fretting over ... : Dave-A
    • That would be entirely un-shack-like, Dave-A : Galadriel07
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    I suggested in the last thread that the OP's username should be Blue for 'live' posts and something else ... : Beady
    • so this is your fault. WAY TO GO. : JohnnyRey
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  Username color suggestion: Make the root post username the blue color you are using for reply post userna... : silent prophet
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    ^^^^the blue usernames is awful : JohnnyRey
    • Used sparingly (like once) I think it could look attractive. : silent prophet
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  ECO any way you could elaborate on the whole shackspace scenario? What is going to be changed, limitation... : pancake humper
  • While we're not going to support Shackspace any longer, we will keep Shackspace alive for awhile n order ... : ECO
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  AITOO who thinks it looks terrible? : hoov1185
  • No, but the majority seems to like it. It's growing on me too. : dumb.
  • I don't like the cold design. brrrrrr : pigvomit
• This has been asked before, but I don't think it's been answered: Will post collapsing work without need... : tangles
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  The comments page from a visually impaired point of view is excellent, the blue doesn't vibrate. Great wo... : Broken Canoe
  • I think if they leave it like that a lot of us are going to become visually impaired. The blue is like na... : JohnnyRey
• If all the usernames are blue then I'll think that I posted everything. : Dynotaku
• Can we not change the font to comic sans? that would be so hip and cool!!! : uebersoldat
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  Comments screenshot is outdated: http://haiku.shacknews.com/shack2011/chatty.html : haiku
  • Man, it's almost back to how it currently looks. : SockMonkeh
  • Spawn more contrast! : omnova
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    I like it, that's not the Sandy Vagina Yellow, right? : Mad Brahmin Disease
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      It is indeed our new shack-named color. : haiku
      • Looks not as washed out as in yesterday's screenshot (which was smaller) on the iMac at work. Zooming int... : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    :( the blue really does look better. this one looks like it was left out in the sun too long. : dumb.
    • I would agree with this. : pimpium
    • yeah was excited about the blue, I know you can't please everyone. But my vote is for the blue. : uebersoldat
    • 100% agree. I guess we can greasemonkey it back to blue if we want. : re-verse
    • I liked the blue better too : bozer
  • I like that a lot better personally. : InfoBiter
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    Hooray for nonblue shacknames! And NWS} header styling!]s :) I do see one minor issue with the Inf stylin... : mn3m0n1c
    • ...and BOO! for improperly closed shacktags. :( : mn3m0n1c
  • wth, no : onji
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    that yellow still bugs me. it looks like someone left the chatty out in the sun for like a week and it's... : mikecyb
    • agreed : ass-street
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      try #fdff6a !! : mikecyb
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        As soon as I swatched this I knew how fucking terrible it would look. I actually lol'd and had to do it j... : haiku
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          Speaking of the colors, are you going to (or even able to) mute the colors produced by shacktags? : ArcKnight
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            I can change all that stuff, but likely won't. Everyone knows I would rather do away with them entirely, ... : haiku
            • I've always liked #ffffcc myself. Plus, it's web-safe. :) : mn3m0n1c
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          Pfft I already changed it with Chrome's inspector thingy. Anyway now try #ecea3d !! No but really I a... : mikecyb
          • although the more I change it and then change it back the more I like it. also I just hid everyone's lig... : mikecyb
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            You should try it with pure white. I think that actually looked kind cool. I had this version of pure whi... : haiku
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              yeah I did that by accident before and it makes the shack feel kind of noir. also have you considered ... : mikecyb
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                I hated it. It looked like something was wrong with those posts when the user name fades back too. It's a... : haiku
                • that's really interesting, I guess that means the usernames give you some sort of focal point for scannin... : mikecyb
    • it looks like deadshack :( : onji
  • oh man I was almost excited for a second and then you had to post this : brecht
  • slick : aurealis
  • I'm sure it will grow on me, but that looks like I'm reading chatty on my deathbed. It all goes pale from... : siknsyko
  • For some reason it reminds me of a forum I used to visit about a decade ago. : one random winner
  • Looks pretty good. I like the sandy name color. Picky things: - I would like the brightest text t... : meesterbill
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    Is there a specific reason to change the names color from what it currently is or is it just because you ... : retardhumper
    • Difference for difference sake. : one random winner
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      Needs to be in the universe of their new color scheme. : haiku
      • Was the new color scheme developed by someone on a 8 color scheme? How can anyone look at that and the... : twifosp
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      the whole site has been redesigned with a new color scheme. the chatty would stick out like a sore thumb... : electroly
      • Fair enough, but that sample makes me think my color temperature is busted. : twifosp
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    does collapse work this time around? :) : maulla
    • Excellent question, are collapsed threads saved on refresh? : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    i don't know why but it has a sort of ashy deathy tone. i'm not designy enough to realize why. : [fry]
    • it feels like my eyes are foggy or something : [fry]
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      I've said it a few times now but it's worth repeating. Visual design has not so much to do with person : haiku
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        I really think you're taking the designer knows best thing too far. I respect the hell out of your abili... : twifosp
        • identify identity. : twifosp
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          haiku -- to further elaborate I have three screen shots: http://www.shackpics.com/files/Text1_bt3rssp05t... : twifosp
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            I always forget about my laptop anti-aliasing settings. Go refresh my URL above. Bolded author names. Tha... : haiku
            • That does help for root and new posts, but faded text still takes on an unnatural looking tint. The tint... : twifosp
      • interesting. kinda correlates back to that article you were high-fiving. i'll defer and assume my nervous... : [fry]
      • Good read, thanks for (re-)posting! : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    crazy : Mr.SEX
    • stop showing people and just do it : Mr.SEX
  • it don't work http://haiku.shacknews.com/search?q=clown+car : stgdz
  • I liked the blue, with the gray background behind the name, and the 1 pixel blue border. That's just me. : cyclonebee
  • I prefer the one on the OP. : razlebol
  • this is really screwing with my eyes. : valael
  • I still prefer the blue or maybe pink. The yellow looks very bleached somehow : Hemtroll
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    that still doesn't look yellowish to me. it doesn't look at all like the pictures twifosp posted. : Zollington
    • Weird, what browser are you using? Firefox here. : twifosp
  • that yellow is the same color as the white on my monitor.... : GoldfishInAJarOfPickles
  • reminds me of stoofoo for some reason : Omning
  • looks bad. : doomed
  • Does hovering over text comments cause them to resize for anyone else? I don't like it. : Rex_the_Runt
  • Looks great, but I hate that hovering over a post shifts it slightly to the right from the highlight.... : mrvandelay
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  Will there only be one comment thread per news article or will it be similar to the current format where ... : Mmmmmoo
  • One thread per news article. The OP is automatically generated : OverloadUT
  • wow, i didnt realize this one thread per news article ? this is going to be terrible.. imagine the ... : doomed
• Hopefully the Greasemonkey script will work : Navy Spitfire
• I like the article page. It looks clean. There's going to be padding on the left on the actual site r... : meesterbill
• Suggestion! Can we turn the chatty page into an infinitely scrolling one, like the way Google image searc... : csana
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  24 hour limit I brought this up yesterday: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=25295731#itemanchor_252... : eonix
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    "the shack is build for this sort of short-term user content." Thats a point I can understand and get ... : eonix
    • It really makes this place worth visiting. It's a chat thread! : Dave-A
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    I like the 'clean slate' every 12 hours (and soon, every day). One thing I think that ECO et al should im... : Arctic Fox
    • I agree with this. Some kind of little subtle UI indicator to the life of the thread could go a long way... : jimmy_legs
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  I'm just going to fucking say it... This place is going to shit ever since Gamefly has taken over. First ... : .ka`boom.zZz.
  • you are wrong on so many levels. : maulla
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    How about you come up with some constructive criticism? : meesterbill
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      the only thing that came to mind when I read your comment was "start over". : .ka`boom.zZz.
      • Way to fail again : meesterbill
      • I think it looks terrible as well, but w/e, the current one is ugly as sin as well just in a different wa... : graceofdragons
      • Hey, at least it's not gawker bad. : melkore
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      I would but then everyone would just scream at me because I full screen browse like some kind of leper. : ghost in my shell
      • I do too, but apparently variable-width websites that use all your screen space are... bad? : silent prophet
  • ok : pimpium
  • The site is due for a redesign. What's the alternative? : csana
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    the question is, does anybody look at the crap that is getting removed from the front page? HardOcp, Tec... : filthysock
    • i stopped reading the front page after the last redesign. there's just too much text and boxes and sideb... : noven
  • The various ad problems actually started with way back when Steve and Maarten were still in charge, if I ... : UtilityMaximizer
  • Way to be constructive. : TylerJSmith
  • well, that was helpful. : Galadriel07
  • I'll agree only on the point about the design ... it is horribly generic and screams "we just purchased s : sonicstorm
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    i think the new site looks awesome, and while malware ads is unforgivable, that was resolved to my knowle... : dahanese
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      It needs a redesign, its just that the new one looks so terrible... : .ka`boom.zZz.
      • cant please everyone. : hirez
      • hey, at least your email will still work : filthysock
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      So now people are ridiculous for expressing their opinion. lol Just because you "endorse" the changes... : virus
      • I don't believe the ridiculous part is referring to his opinion, just the way he presented it. : pandastrong
  • kaboom you're a cool guy, this just sounds like frustration. I think the ECO dude and others are being pr... : royalally
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    of course everyone is going to pile on you here. I don't disagree with some of what you say, but if yo... : virus
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      I always come off that way, and I will never change because I really don't give a shit. Everyone can dogp... : .ka`boom.zZz.
      • you obviously do give a shit if you keep replying. : twifosp
      • Gaming news, surely you jest! : ghost in my shell
  • Cold bloooooded. Some people can never deal with change....just be happy we are getting Gawker'd. : xpogox
  • I think it looks great : Hemtroll
  • I think it'll freshen the suck up a bit. : ihya
  • You are one constructive motherfucker. Nice. : thetangent
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    While I don't agree with you, I'm disappointed about the new logo. The people responsible for it screwed ... : Nitrium
    • 100% agreed : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • The ad problems started before gamefly. I'm not one to go out and defend an evil corporation (hahaha) bu... : ejectorpod
  • Ads were a problem before Gamefly. But I do agree with the social network buttons. Those look out of pl... : iamgoat
  • Thanks.txt? : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    bradsh? : VegasX
    • lol : Mr.SEX
  • I agree re: the design. It's a poor design. : systatic
  • this reads like a troll : Yanks
  • The changes are awesome : OverloadUT
  • I agree. : Rigg5
  • kaboomz, i have to agree with you, I just wouldnt put it so harshly as you did. The previous leaked sc... : doomed
  • I don't like it either. And the kind of "constructive criticism" people are looking for, (change this li... : MamiyaOtaru
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  I like it! I don't know if anyone else has said this, but the only thing I don't like is that it looks l... : jenisthebest
  • he *did* accidentally highlight the header text. that's why it's like that : electroly
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    thats because he accidently highlighted it : Maarten Goldstein
    • ok good. I am happy I am just retarded and that it is not some annoying new style. Because if it was I ... : jenisthebest
  • unless you actually highlighted the header text before taking the screenshot. : jenisthebest
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  1: I think the comment bubbles under each story should be much smaller, unless there is content in them to show i.e. someones comment. They are a bit distracting and just adds a bunch of unecessary white space.
  
  2: Why so much blue in the chatty comments? The curent color scheme works, even though some elements are contrasting, it's easy on the eyes. The blue is just a bit much.
  
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  What an absolutely horrendous and slapped together design and coding job this site is. I care too much ab... : emcea
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    lol : mikecyb
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      I am looking forward to this subthread!! : mikecyb
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        *gets popcorn* : pixelat3d
        • *removes shirt* : dumb.
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    This is how you effectively criticize without sounding like a toolbag. : ejectorpod
    • I dunno, the toolbag vibe is still kinda there : Halen
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      Hopefully next someone can show us how to make a witty comment without sounding like one. : .ka`boom.zZz.
      • wow dude, wow. : ejectorpod
  • honestly, I thought it looked really good before I read this post but I agree with the points you brought... : Hemtroll
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    Yay for snap judgements from a screenshot! I shouldn't have expected any less from the gaming community. : BlackCat9
    • Not enough people use RSS. I feel so lonely with it. : Agrona
  • i honestly thought it was selected accidentally : feek
  • Pretty much everything I was thinking but too lazy to type. : hoov1185
  • Constructive criticism! : virus
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    It *was* selected accidentally, and there *is* a search button. The screenshot is misleading. : electroly
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      (if you look at the first screenshot, it's chopped off on the right side. that's why you don't see the s... : electroly
      • ^^^ This. : BlackCat9
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  Does anyone think that magenta / cyan behind the shack logo is good? The identity of the site has always ... : systatic
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    This is my only concerning gripe about the new design. The type selection for the logo is good, and the l... : haiku
    • I love reading your comments about design. It makes me want to go into design. How does one learn about i... : systatic
• Now the front page looks just like any other gaming news site out there. : slacko
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  I don't want to get jumped on by the shack brigade, and i haven't been keeping up with these monstrous th : Ellissd
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    The more I look at it, the worse it gets. Was haiku out of the gamefly price range or something? I'm not ... : Ellissd
    • Wasnt haiku involved in the past themes as well (with Steve?) And didnt everyone complain a lot every... : doomed
• Too much white. White is too bright and obnoxious as a background. Stick with black, I'm begging you. Bec... : Jumperus
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  I'm still bummed about shackspace going away :( : virus
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    see my post above : ECO
    • Oh, so we'll have shackspace but it won't be called shackspace? Fine by me! :) : virus
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  The blue names still look bad imo. : doomed
  • See, this is why monster threads suck and shouldn't be bumped past it's latest chatty expiry time. People... : Dave-A
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  Appreciate the discussion even the criticism, some of which are known issues and will be addressed (e.g. ... : ECO
  • No, but while you're in a chatty and ECO-friendly mood, I'd like to ping you to see if GF plans to exten... : Dave-A
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    Hey ECO Why didnt you post a proper screenshot ? Lots of the criticism comes from the way that screens... : doomed
    • the full png of the test page was too big for shackpics and i was in a hurry to post before i had to run ... : ECO
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  Constructive criticism: * Do you really need Digg, Like, and Tweet buttons on the preview for an arti... : pixelat3d
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    Is Digg still relevant? : freshyk
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      Does anyone use the sharing links anyway?? : doomed
      • never have on any site, never will. : niceguynick
  • Good stuff. : biskits
• Constructive question perhaps: Whats the deal with the Games Library? Will the be worked on, or just remo... : bozer
• Sign in with Facebook, Twitter, or Yahoo? How does that work? And why Yahoo but not Google? : Scrimbo Obeer
• Feedback: NewsHub - It's a little difficult to give a picture of a website an accurate read without i : get_navi