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  i've never read the book, but that really does not look remotely interesting. :( : roushimsx
  • it looks pretty terrible :\ : ibrokn
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    then it must be a pretty faithful adaptation of the book : riptyde
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      Let's hope not. There would be a four hour stretch of John Galt babbling objectivist ideals over his pir... : oceanstate8
      • Television? Really? : creeping-judas
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  I'm not. The book was horrible. Do you think Atlas Shrugged pt 3 will consist of only the John Galt s : CrustaR
  • That one will be straight to DVD. : reelbk
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    Hopefully they get Morgan Freeman to play Galt : riptyde
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      Nah, it should be Samuel L Jackson. : CrustaR
      • It's time to get these motherfucking bureaucrats off this motherfucking train! : riptyde
  • *paging bipolar* : photonzach
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    who knows! i'm interested to see how the whole story will be portrayed on the big screen : aurealis
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      Yeah, everyone's touchy because they don't like the political themes. They might make it a decent move. ... : pigvomit
      • Also, the trailer comes off as "trying too hard" by making it look like a suspense thriller. : pigvomit
      • The trailer looks good, and I fucking hate the book. : dex.collins
      • i'm interested to see the public reaction to the ideas in the story, too. : aurealis
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        I only read The Fountainhead but the themes in that were so obvious that it ended up detracting from the ... : mikecyb
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          Ayn Rand loves to let her characters monologue didactically, and what I find funniest is that these speec... : SpaecKow
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            well Roark's speech was in a courtroom when he was on trial, if I recall it was his testimony, so it at l... : mikecyb
            • Yeah it's Atlas Shrugged I'm talking about. : SpaecKow
        • Political motivations in Hollywood movies are fairly typical. In socio-political films, the bad guys en... : pigvomit
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  I'm going to sneak into the theater to watch this : riptyde
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    tickets should be $50 : EvilDolemite
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      Showings should be invite only. : reelbk
      • They'll only have one showing in a secluded sanctuary hidden in the rocky mountains. : oceanstate8
• Interest piqued : lord cecil
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  Seriously? This is what one of the most maligned books I've ever heard of is about? It looks just kinda..... : Vincent Grayson
  • the underwater city doesn't show up until part five : sgtsanity
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    -awesome people are awesome -awesome people are fed up with leeches and leave society -awesome people f... : EvilDolemite
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      you missed "if you are awesome and like a woman, rape her" : riptyde
      • lol : Godhatesfatpeople
  • It's not about railroads and steel, if that's what you're getting from the trailer. Same way Starship ... : Schnapple
• No, says the man in Hollywood... : Earl Greigh
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  just what the hell is it about? I watched the trailer and i saw a bunch of people all worked up about rai... : gyokuro
  • They are following the George Lucas model of making en exciting space epic by focusing on trade sanctions... : riptyde
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    It's complex and I can't really explain it because I don't know how to (and it's been like 15 years since : Schnapple
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      Also in case you didn't know the Atlas character from BioShock is named in reference to the book : Schnapple
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        Not to mention that "Andrew Ryan" and "Ayn Rand" sound awfully similar. :-P : thetangent
        • Shit must not have refreshed in a while : rodneystubbs
      • Also Andrew Ryan Ayn Rand : rodneystubbs
• Hey, I'm up for a role reversal kinda film. I'm surprised this one didn't get a Verhoven treatment by no... : pigvomit
• if this is successful in any way, then humanity is completely and utterly fucked and i will eagerly await... : ETPC1
• LOL: "To a successful business partnership." "I'll drink to that." And they did so, and it was done ex... : reelbk
• like the book, this looks awful. : halophoenix
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  Is this the movie that makes me want to vote for Ron Paul?

  Feb 11, 2011 2:53pm PST
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  Is this the movie that makes me want to vote for Ron Paul? : The Grolar Bear
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    Is this the movie that makes me want to play Bioshock? : The Grolar Bear
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      Bioshock is not speak for Objectivism, btw. Kevin Levine should be ashamed. : Wikus Van De Merwe
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        Bioshock is a criticism of Objectivism. : Arcanum
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          ^^Incorrect. : Wikus Van De Merwe
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            Maybe in a strict "let's tear down Objectivism" sense, but not in a "let's see what happens when reality ... : Arcanum
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              Objectivism is based on reality. Not ideals. People get really, really confused about what Objectivism me... : Wikus Van De Merwe
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                Objectivism is (at best) based on axioms, conclusions, and intuitions, just like every other philosophy. ... : Arcanum
                • Rand's conclusions in regards to ethics and politics were pretty broken. However, I would say that sh... : creeping-judas
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                  Please point out a philosophy that has a rational frame of ethics that can be demonstrated to be true, ot : Wikus Van De Merwe
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                    http://freedomainradio.com/board/blogs/freedomain/archive/2008/09/25/universally-preferable-behavior-a-ra... : creeping-judas
                    • PROTIP - It's based almost 75% on Objectivism. : creeping-judas
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                      Hasn't it been proven that no system of logic (which is what any rational ethical system amounts to) can ... : Arcanum
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                        Please stop using your computer, then. : Wikus Van De Merwe
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                          ...What? : Arcanum
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                            It's a system of logic. : Wikus Van De Merwe
                            • And...? My personal philosophy somewhat resembles Utilitarianism: If it works well enough, use it. : Arcanum
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                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gödel's_incompleteness_theorems : sgtsanity
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                          Although applying it to ethical systems is a streeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch : sgtsanity
                          • True. : Arcanum
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                Sorry, but no. It works no better in reality than Communism, and for the same reasons. : Conan
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                  This is a meaningless statement. Also, comparing objectivism to communism is fairly stupid. : creeping-judas
                  • The philosophies are completely antithetical, this is true - but their usefulness as a philosophy in the ... : thetangent
                  • It's not a meaningless statement at all. As far as the comparison to communism, why is it stupid? I never... : Conan
      • no he shouldn't. bioshock is a nice critique on the human condition. it just uses objectivism as a back... : EvilDolemite
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  I'm a big fan of Objectivism, so accordingly I am really nervous this movie will set it back. : Wikus Van De Merwe
  • As if it has ever moved forward : riptyde
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    yeah Nazis are still pretty upset about Schindler's List setting them back : mikecyb
    • MASTERSTROKE : ETPC1
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      ?? This post speaks volumes about your character. : Wikus Van De Merwe
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        all posts do if you think about it! fart. : mikecyb
        • mike: http://www.maniacworld.com/internet-bro-fist.jpg : ETPC1
        • god damnit that fart at the end sealed it :) : burning eye
        • volumes!!! : Mr.SEX
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        As does yours, but he has a valid point. An objectivist who worries what people thinks about Atlas Shrugg... : Conan
        • I'm not worried about the philosophy. I'm worried about the people behind the movie misrepresenting it. : Wikus Van De Merwe
      • vol 1 has strength and dexterity and constitution while volume 2 has intelligence and wisdom and charisma : sgtsanity
    • big lol : sKetchflow
  • It's hard to set something so ridiculous "back". Also, I didn't realize the Shack had more than one objec... : thetangent
• Looks meh. They got Armin Shimerman though. Wow, the circle is now complete. : K1Bond007
• God knows if there's any other group of people in the world who is more prosecuted than the incredibly we : SpaecKow
• Holy attack of the B grade actors, batman! : greenbergMD
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  haha, I did not know this. Ayn Rand assumed a fake name to collect welfare and medicare benefits late in ... : edgewise
  • <3 hypocrisy : Serpico74
  • that's hilarious. and the comments are just weird. : sKetchflow
  • Hahahaha. Wow. What a hypocrite. : Ormsbee
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    I made sure to pass that story around to my few objectivist friends. It was fun watching them try to just... : ColoradoCNC
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      i'm sure they would say she was just reclaiming the wealth the government had stolen from her through for... : EvilDolemite
      • Pretty much. There are a lot of O'ists that are perfectly happy to sign up for every penny they can get b... : creeping-judas
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      Is it really that hard to justify? I mean she didn't want to die. The number of beliefs that people hold ... : lord cecil
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        I completely understand why she did it, I just like watching the people who took her way too seriously ha... : ColoradoCNC
        • Man, there are such strong opinions on the book - both for and against. I understand the basic premise of... : lord cecil
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    That's fucking hilarious. : Rice-Rocketeer
    • (Not that she died of cancer or needed healthcare. That she is such a hypocrite.) : Rice-Rocketeer
  • GOLDEN! Thanks for digging that up! : Dr_Cube
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    How does Wikus feel about this. : Dschinghis Khan
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      If you're a productive person who had your money stolen from you, via taxes, then you're morally right to... : Wikus Van De Merwe
      • Ah, well at least she knew she was a hypocrite. : Dschinghis Khan
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        She had the money to pay for the medical procedures didn't she? It says she would have gone broke but th... : giant boy detective
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          How much do you think she paid in taxes? : Wikus Van De Merwe
          • No idea but I know it's not possible that she paid more taxes than what she earned. : giant boy detective
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  i'm gonna pirate this and never watch it : ETPC1
  • lololol : MoreVespeneGas
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    also i won't seed it because fuck you got mine : ETPC1
    • lol : ass-street
    • hahahah : AlexXdude
  • fucking mooch : harold.johnson
• Did the USA network produce this? Looks like they cast it with a bunch of Silk Stalking's extras and film... : Porkasaurus
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  Objectivism must be the most criticized, non-implemented social philosophy. Well that and anarchism. : pigvomit
  • *Waves Hand* : creeping-judas
  • Seems to me like extremist view points in general don't fare well in reality. : silent prophet
  • In its defense, anarchism is the javascript of political ideas; people think they know what it is and eve... : steauengeglase
• I can't wait for this movie to produce an entirely new generation of 15-22 year-old douchebags who think ... : ColoradoCNC
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  Hmm. Help please. I've (obviously) not read the books, so... Is this a movie about a brother and a... : virus
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    Nope. It's about gooberment repeatedly cracking down on people who are competing for marketshare and taxi... : creeping-judas
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      Oh, that is actually kinda interesting. : virus
      • Contrary to the Shack echo chamber, it's a pretty good book. It's not the bible. It's just a good boo... : creeping-judas
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    Man, that'd be awesome if it was Ticket-to-Ride: The Movie. : Rice-Rocketeer
    • He who controls the line from Nashville to Atlanta, controls the fate of America... : bashildy@speakeasy.net
  • It's about a pretty awesome idea that then gets repeatedly thrown in your face until an actual sentence r... : sludge vohaul
• I've been saying for years that the difficult factor of making this movie is so high that I have to see i : bashildy@speakeasy.net
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  i'm not saying i agree with ayn rand's philosophy, and she can be far too wordy, but i fucking love The F... : dahanese
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    ^^I like this post. Please slap the hell out of your bf, tho. : Wikus Van De Merwe
    • yeah i know he read it because i told him it was my favorite book and it's a serious detractor about the ... : dahanese
• Doesn't look enough like Bioshock. : Grumbeld
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  I don't like how modern it is. Also I need to read the last 500ish pages. : Fenring42
  • They're a lot like the first 500 pages, except there's even more preaching. : thetangent
  • agreed : arcane_
• I had NO idea this was being made, and frankly I'm shocked it was. I'll probably see it eventually, thoug... : thetangent
• The entire plot in one sentence, SPOILERS! You don't make shit, you ain't shit. : Dschinghis Khan
• hmm, i dont' know about the actors they've chose for the mains, but we'll see. looks too modern, would ha... : arcane_
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  Man most of those actors are terrible. I think Harry's partner was the best one of them. : Tincan
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    I saw Quark in there, he could be good! :D : thetangent
    • A man chooses. A slave obeys. : Dschinghis Khan
    • Crap I knew that was him but all the other terrible people made me forget. : Tincan
• great book, but wtf is this : liquidlies
• this looks horrible. : papaskot