# Morning Discussion

by Xav de Matos, Jan 25, 2011 5:00am PST

Vacation's over. I really enjoyed my time away from work, exploring some of the great spots buried within Chicago. It was a hectic time in the city due to the face-off between the Bears and the Pack. It didn't turn out well for Bears fans.

What did turn out well was Never Not Funny, live at the Congress Theater. The show was hilarious as usual, Daver sang the theme and the crew sang along at the end. As an added bonus, I had the pleasure of meeting the crew. What a classy group of gentlemen.

Well, it's back to work for me. Next time I'll be sure to remember to take more than two days off. Maybe.

• Anyone here know a lot about game theory?

Is there a Pareto optimum in the chicken game? If so then I'm havning trouble understanding pareto optimums -- they are supposed to be where no other outcome makes anyone worse, right?

If so, then in:
1,1 | 4,2
2,4 | 3,3

i know that the nash is 2,4 and 4,2, but which would be pareto? 3,3? that wouldnt make sense because then you're worsening someone in 2,4 and 4,2, right? and 2,4/4,2 cant be because then you're worsening someone from the position of 3,3.

(that or im totally confused!)

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• Oh, ah, the numbers in ninjase's game theory examples are payouts (in essence). A measure of benefit or loss/cost for each outcome. It could easily be 100, 200, 300, -100... For the Prisoner's Dilemma, it's usually years of jail-time, where 1,1 is the desirable outcome where they both don't squeal and thus get reduced sentences, but they end up at 5,5 where they both squeal, because they are both hoping that the other guy doesn't, thus getting them 0 years of jail and the other guy 10 years of jail.
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