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  Gonna level an alt; prefer leveling to gearing/raiding atm. It's either my Tauren Druid or my Goblin Sha... : Smoochy666
  • I'm still going back/forth on what alt to make as my secondary. My Paladin is fun but part of me just wan... : atom519
• Not much time this weekend, but might fit a heroic or two in to get ready for raiding soon. : node
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  puddle poop is a now a fight mechanic? : Slowtreme
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    Puddle poo has been a fight mechanic for a long time : giant boy detective
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      the only poop I remember was something I had to pick up for quests. I've never seen a boss poop :( : Slowtreme
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        Ohh, not literal poop. Just slime/void zones. : giant boy detective
        • oh ok then I get it : Slowtreme
        • Pretty sure the dogs in Blackrock Caverns actually poop giant puddles of flaming shit that damage the hel... : Vincent Grayson
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    I'm pretty sure the Cata motto is "Don't stand in shit." : skinlab133
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      More like that has been the motto since classic, yet most people are idiots. Hey the boss tossed somethin... : Chod
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        I think Blizzard needs to throw us for a loop more often and place targeted aoe buffs on the ground that ... : atom519
        • Oh god no. It's hard enough making people not stand in something let alone having one buff. : Chod
        • Omnotron-fight has those. There were some in Ulduar also. : mem
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        Jan'alai in ZA should be a pre req for people to do heriocs or raids. fking fire bombs : maulla
        • Oh yeah, that was fun! Especially with a pet. : node
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          Before they nerfed ZA that fight was a huge pain in the ass in Kara/T4 gear. : giant boy detective
          • thats what was so awesome about it. even a full raid decked out in kara gear struggled in there at first.... : maulla
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          I loved that fight. Actually, I loved almost all of ZA besides the last boss. I remember that zone bein... : atom519
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            I loved ZA a lot too, great, fun boss design. The last one was an annoying fuck though I nearly jumped ou... : node
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              Yeah our guild was still running ZA long after we all outgeared it for that trinket. : atom519
              • I FOUGHT for that damn thing. I barely made a group on the second night which was hard enough, then we w... : node
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              What Zul'jin was easy, it was the Hexar dude before him that was a much bigger pain in the ass. : Chod
              • Nah, he had some trick to him that made him easier. Maybe a Druid healer or some Shaman totem, don't reme... : node
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              I cant remember how many times we ran ZA, never got the amani bow, and I never won the roll on the bear m... : maulla
              • Shit I never saw the bear mount since my guild collapse just when we got good enough. Makes me sad, I got... : node
      • YOU ARE THE BOMB *run next to friends* boom. : TheNiXXeD
      • Shade of Aran? DON'T MOVE OUT OF THE FUCKING POOP OR YOU'LL BLOW UP THE RAID! : walker270
• they always nerf locks : multisync
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  still waiting to run my first heroic. :/ : creep
  • Waiting for what? : TheNiXXeD
• Finally got all the pvp honor gear and Epic pvp weapon! May go back to PvE once I get bored of smashing s... : darcspeed
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  I'm going to hit 84 tonight, but I have to say the more I'm playing this expansion, while it's nice and pretty, the more annoyed I'm becoming with the quest structure.
  
  - Go see this guy who has information for you
  - Take 2 quests, one to kill 12 of these NPCs and collect 6 of their nutsacks
  - Take 1 quests from another guy two feet away to use some special item to freeze ray item on the nutsacks
  - Return Complete quests
  - Open 2 new quests a mix of the two above usually
  - Complete Quests - get 1 new quest to kill super mob get 1 new quest to fly to new guy to repeat the above
  
  On one hand it's nice to have little quests hub and be able to go 3 feet to do them, but on the other, it's sort of removes the exploration and having a whole quest log full of stuff to do and then coming back to turn stuff in.
  
  Like I said I'm enjoying the game, just getting tired of the repeated structure of quests.
  
  Also.. flying mounts when you die... I don't mind removing all the hardcore shit from the game, but honestly people don't even have to run to their bodies anymore :(

  Jan 14, 2011 6:14am PST
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  I'm going to hit 84 tonight, but I have to say the more I'm playing this expansion, while it's nice and p... : stonedonkey
  • Hmm, very good summary of the quests, and it's not perfect, I agree. At the same time, collecting like 10... : node
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    I think the flying mounts when you die are more because it might be impossible to get back to your body o... : asylumn
    • This is exactly it. They added them in Wrath for Icecrown, Storm Peaks, and I think Sholazar Basin becaus... : drhazard
  • I agree that the quests are extremely formulaic, they always have been but it's very transparent now. I d... : Zek
  • It's better since before you'd giant quest log, go out complete quests, come back and get the follow up q... : darcspeed
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  Shack WoW Guild! Nerfs don't apply to us. Server: Mal'Ganis Faction: Horde Guild: Shugashack : dumb.
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    i always sit in shacknews shannel to see if anyone ever wants to run heroics but no one ever answers :( : creep
    • The mumble illumanti is always running heroics. : ghost in my shell
    • Yeah, it seems like mumble is where its at - always a crown in there. mumble: shkn.ws : re-verse
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    I managed to ding 26 last night - i haven't really played that much! does anyone in the guild do tailo... : even4
    • you can view everyone's professions in the guild interface now. that being said I can hook you up with b... : x4nth3
• im gonna print this out lol : NukemForever
• I finally hit ilevel 330 last night. Now I can do Heroics! :D ICC 25 man raid tonight right? : kikilupo
• Went back and finished up TH to try to clear out my last few greens, replaced my gloves and main hand wea... : nevlos
• This chart is wrong, blue square has always been for hunter traps. Also they fail as a process diagram be... : ghost in my shell
• I'm now in all 346+ gear except one of my trinkets. It's getting difficult for me to pug heroics unless I... : TheNiXXeD
• I like how there's nothing on there for Shamans. It seems that nobody remembers or knows that they can he... : kikilupo
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  I want to run more heroics but the queues leading to pug fails gets pretty tiresome :( : Downforce
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    You gotta have pro tanks to queue with! Aren't you in the shack guild now? I have to imagine some people ... : TheNiXXeD
    • GCR atm, plenty of folks on friends list, but they are usually raiding! I might level up my tank! I wi... : Downforce
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    DPS heroic queue on my server is around 45min :( : pun][sher
    • If I'm lucky. If not, I'm staring at a nice round hour. : Ebu
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      This is seriously half the reason I went healer after two expansions as Hunter. 5 mins tops and it guaran... : node
      • Yeah, i started a Pally due to this too :) : pun][sher
      • Same. My healer has been gear than my main. : project13
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        i'm scurred to heal or tank. i feel like if people start yelling at me i'll just take my ball and go home... : xxiv
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          You certainly can just leave and requeue. DPS are usually the cause of the problems anyway. : TheNiXXeD
          • This is what i've been doing. I've tanked everything that isn't a raid successfully enough times that any... : corey
    • Same for my server. I usually just queue up, crank the volume so I don't miss the pop, and then go do som... : TheNiXXeD
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  Professions: So after playing my Hunter since launch, (year longs breaks here and there), but i'm JUST st... : pun][sher
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    Depends on the profession. I know the high-end stuff doesn't really sell on the AH in my server. Usually ... : digital_d
    • "I've" should be "have" : digital_d
  • LW makes mail gear, so yes. you missed the boat on the influx of people buying the PvP pieces though : maulla
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    Nah, you want to go herbs/alch or JC/mining for the best profit off a single character. I made jack shit ... : node
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      Or both on 2 chars for maximum self-sufficient gemming and transmutes. I got my first truegold proc last ... : TheNiXXeD
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        Oh you went transmute mastery? I want to go elixirs but that means doing the retarded caverns of time que... : node
        • I went transmute, because I don't really use potions much. Plus, since I transmute so many gems, it reall... : TheNiXXeD
        • "An alchemist who has specialized in one of the other two specializations can switch to this one by talki : x4nth3
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    Everyone needs new leg armor if they get new leg-items, so you can earn something from that. Maybe some e... : Smoochy666
    • I think there are 333 level cloaks LWs make that are pretty popular, though there are tons of them on my ... : TheNiXXeD
    • I guess I should start looking for epic recipes.. : pun][sher
  • LWing is very good right now. The leg armors sell like hot cakes and you can self-enchant bracers and leg... : Entity
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  <All Worgen No Play> Great heroic runs last night. Had a lot of fun and that was the cleanest Beauty ... : DianeOfTheMoon
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    Beauty felt messy to me, but maybe that's just the nature of the fight. I'm just happy to be doing sol... : Vincent Grayson
    • Nobody got close to dying and we could only CC 2 of them, so it was very, very clean. She fears constantl... : DianeOfTheMoon
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  I've been leveling another Blood Elf Priest on Lightbringer the past few days. Almost at 40 now, having a... : ateam311
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    Shoulda got in when they had BC and Wrath for $5 and $10 respectively. : coraldayton
    • Shoulda woulda coulda. : ateam311
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  Also I'm leveling a death knight tank alt in the shack guild! Coming from my mage insta-ques are lots of ... : Jenings
  • Make sure you have tidyplates (tankplates) add-on. And turn name plates on. It lets you show threat and w... : TheNiXXeD
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    Depends on your level, but DK tanking is pretty straight forward. A few simple rules: A) Itemezatio : InfoBiter
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      Oh, upon review I didn't mention heartstrike. Still use it, it's your main "hit this thing in front of me... : InfoBiter
      • InfoBiter, this is Amazing! Thanks so much, I had been putting diseases on a single target (dots) then us... : Jenings
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  Haven't played since Cata beta. Might return once the SB rig arrives but only if Elemental shamans aren't... : Marrbe
  • They are great from what I hear. I run with one almost nightly and we are constantly back and forth DPS ... : atom519
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    Enhancement is the way to go. But I like punching shit and never running out of mana. : kikilupo
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      Melee is also a bit more attention span requiring, due to AOEs and movement stuff. : TheNiXXeD
      • Not to mention a ton of the raid encounters are very unfriendly to melee. : InfoBiter
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  fuck the heroic achievement for Siamat (Lost City) in the ass. 3 of us got it, but holy shit it was an... : mwasher
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    oh, does anyone know how to find out what type of sockets certain crafted epics are getting with the next... : mwasher
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      If it's already in the PTR, you can put wowhead into PTR mode. Go to www.wowhead.com and click the PTR li... : TheNiXXeD
      • nope, just shows the non socketed :( : mwasher
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    I've only got a couple of them. What is the siamat one? : TheNiXXeD
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      you have to kill siamat with 3 stacks of the debuff you get from killing the servants. - the servants ha... : mwasher
      • "we can now* attack the boss" : mwasher
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        Could you kill 2 servants, then let 3 spawn, then kill one of them to trigger the DPS phase, and burn him... : TheNiXXeD
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          the debuff timer doesn't stack, it just resets to 25 seconds when you kill one. so when you kill the 3r... : mwasher
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            Yea I know. I just didn't spell it out. Looking on wowhead, the second comment describes what I mean: ... : TheNiXXeD
            • Yep we tried it that way as well, and yes it would have been easier to not try and get it for all 5 peopl... : mwasher
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        Grats on the achievement, but I think there's an easier way: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/81977... : daVinci1980
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          Yes we tried it this way as well as a few others. The descriptions of what it is like / and what to do m... : mwasher
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            hey let's go drink beer tonight : mwasher
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              Going to see True Grit with my wife--how about next weekend? I'm pretty sure my wife works overnight next... : daVinci1980
              • sure thing : mwasher
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        Also forgot to mention that the debuff increases all damage taken by 50% per stack. : Onimarr
        • oh yea whoops : mwasher
        • Thought it was 33%? : InfoBiter
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  so how long does it take to go from 80-85 ? : xil-reno
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    81 and 82 are pretty fast, faster than the later 70s. 83-85 get kinda long, but if you keep in the zones ... : TheNiXXeD
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      say I play for 2 hours a day, would it take about a month? 2 weeks? : xil-reno
      • No idea, I've never been able to contain my playing to such short spans. : TheNiXXeD
      • With reading the text of all quests, completing 4 of the 5 zones, and not doing any instances, it took me... : mwasher
      • At 2 hours a day anywhere from one week to like 9 days tops. : Chod
      • 84-85 took like 6 hours i think and that was by far the slowest one : sposh
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        Probably less than 2 weeks. Each zone is at least one level and you can knock out one of those per day i... : BlackCat9
        • Twighlight Highlands didn't get me from the beginning of 84 to 85. I had to go back and finish more of Ul... : synapse19
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    20-24 hours of playtime. : lightly inclined
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      I certainly hope it didnt take you that long. I'd say most people are 10-14 if they are questing effecien... : maulla
      • OH YA?? I DID IT IN 2 HOURS LOSSSSERr : mwasher
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        wow this is very doable, i always had in my head that wow playtimes were basically a bottomless pit. i... : xil-reno
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          If your goal is just to hit 85 quickly, you can do it even faster than that. Basically everytime you... : InfoBiter
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            Yup, people in my guild were wondering how I got exalted in all the cataclysm stuff so quickly. I just re... : ovrlrd
            • Aye, I got loremaster on my main before I really started doing shit with alts. On my first alt (DK Ta... : InfoBiter
      • The time actually varies depending on if your guild has the XP bonus or not. I remember when I was leveli... : ovrlrd
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  how are your servers doing traffic-wise for leveling purposes? i have a copy of cataclysm from launch day... : xil-reno
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    For starters, phasing made this issue A LOT better even at launch. I rarely found myself fighting for tap... : InfoBiter
    • Yeah pretty much everyone got level 85 within the first couple weeks. The majority of people leveling rig... : ovrlrd
  • Definitely safe. : royalally
  • I levelled on a medium pop PvE server when I started playing again and just transferred back to my PvP se... : synapse19
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  I love it when people bitch at me for not doing stuff completely stupid or flat out impossible. Last b : walker270
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    They probably wanted to get the achievement where you kill the adds before they start casting. Of course ... : ovrlrd
    • I doubt it. Apparently I was the fifth or sixth tank they had gone through. They were just dumb. : walker270
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    Your dps are terrible if they need the tank to help kill the adds, sorry :( : jra101
    • oh, they were terrible. Only one was over 7k. : walker270
• 25 to 45 min : bolneze