Evening Reading

by Garnett Lee, Jan 11, 2011 5:00pm PST

Well, it turned out that my gut feeling about Oregon was misplaced. Both teams played their hearts out after a slow first quarter, but in the closing minutes Auburn showed how battle-hardened playing in the SEC had made them. Only a few NFL games left too, but boy are there some great match-ups taking shape--big time rivalries like Ravens vs. Steelers and Jets vs. Patriots, two exciting offenses in Falcons vs. Packers, and the Cinderella story Seahawks vs. the Bears.

While we're ticking off the time for the games to arrive this weekend, here's the top video game stories from today on the Shack:

Tiger fans, you've earned this: WAR EAGLE! Enjoy a well-earned championship.

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I've asked this before, but 16:10 monitors really are a dying breed, aren't they? Dell is no longer listing a single 16:10 monitor in the current product lineup on their site, so while I really liked their LCDs up to now, I guess I'm gonna have to look elsewhere. (Sure wish I'd gotten a 2209WA when they were like $200).

Who else makes a good 16:10 IPS at this point? Is there anyone left? Vertical space is so important for computing use, why would they get rid of it? :(

Jan 11, 2011 5:30pm PST

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- now you know my hell with regard to wanting to stick with a 4:3 :( : roushimsx
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  I don't mind it at all. In fact, I have no idea why it's a big deal in the first place. I run 1900x1200 ... : jingletard
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    1920x1200 is a 16:10 resolution. the kind that are going away. wake up jingletard : electroly
    - lol, I thought you were insulting him until I looked at his name. : mobab
- probably saves them a lot on production when all the screens can be 1080p? look for a samsung 2243bwx.... : harold.johnson
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  HP ZR24w? : the archvile
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    This is a damn good monitor. : Caoster007
    - out of production apparently : flasher 907
- Asus showed off a 16:10 at CES: http://techreport.com/discussions.x/20220 : sanchez
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  I know the HP ZR24w has gone out of production but I think they have other 16:10 IPS panels. : Mr. Goodwrench
  - Ah, okay. One thing I hate about monitor shopping now is that it's impossible to preview a demo unit, no... : the archvile
- So you are saying I should try to acquire replacement 16:10s before they are all gone? : Slowtreme
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  Is Apple's cinema display 16:10 or have they also caved? All of their shit is still 16:10, isn't it? :( : mikecyb
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    Oh crap it's 16:9 too :( : mikecyb
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      I think once they moved beyond 1920x1200 or whatever it made less sense. The idea is that at 1920x1200 y... : Wheatloaf
      
      at 2560x1440, you have more than enough vertical space : CecilPhilpot
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  I don't understand, Dell sells several 16:10 monitors still : veras
  - though I guess it's all in 24"+ sizes : veras
  - yeah sorry, this was in the 20 - 23" category which is what I'm looking for. : rudds
- Acer is releasing one next month, for 500$ :( : shirif
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  What i just did was buy 2x 16:9 screens (u2311), and I plan on having one in portrait for web pages and s... : chrisschutz
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    I just got home and set them up. It's fucking awesome and it cost me 400 dollars for 2 23" ips screens. ... : chrisschutz
    - this is the best thing i've done in a while... i am so glad somebody posted that sale last week, : chrisschutz
- hugging my 4:3 dell LCD as we speak : TPSReport
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  They dont have the 30" IPS anymore that was 16:10? : hobosapien
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    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824176177 : sanchez
    - that'll fit nicely in the budget...not : flasher 907
- My U3011 that's all of 1.5 months old tells me that 16:10's death has been greatly exaggerated. 16:10 is : dfay
- U2410 is 16x10 : Caoster007
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  As many have said, HPZR24W In stock for the lowest I have ever seen it. http://www.amazon.com/HP-ZR24... : pancake humper
  - The U2410 by Dell is 16:10 also : pancake humper
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    Used to be $330 right before it disappeared, now you can only find it from 3rd part sellers like that :( ... : sanchez
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      $330?! :( : pancake humper
      
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      Yeah it was a great deal. I probably would have picked one up if I didn't already have a larger one :/ : sanchez
      
      You realize I now hold you personally responsible for not letting us know of this deal : pancake humper
  - That is a really good deal : chrisschutz
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    How's the input lag? : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
    - Very low (review of the 30" version): http://www.anandtech.com/show/3754/a-new-30-contender-hp-zr30w-revi... : sanchez
- portrait mode and rotate the lcd if you want to view nudie pics in style : rhekua
- the Dell U2410 is the best bang for your buck right now...although quality control is supposedly not very... : IcomeINpeace
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  PHILIPS just released a 21:9 Ultra-wide TV at CES. GET READY BITCHES : retarded talking dinosaur
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    Haha, close to, but not quite, 2.39:1 aspect ratio. For all those REALLY wide movies. : the archvile
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      most movies are not 16:9 : retarded talking dinosaur
      
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      Get ready for 2.35:1 monitors, boys! : chrisschutz
      
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      exactly. PHILIPS just released the first TV. soon it will catch on because people hate black bars, of cou... : retarded talking dinosaur
      
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      Did they really? I was joking : chrisschutz
      
      Vizio did too. http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/07/vizio-ces-hands-on-with-ultrawidescreen-tv-passive-3dtv... : retarded talking dinosaur
      
      We'll just need to build webpages that go horizontal instead of vertical and all evolve the ability to re... : Volatris
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  What's the argument for 16:10 vs 16:9? : suqur
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    16:9 = no black bars on the top/bottom when viewing HD content. that's about it for the pros. 16:10 = ... : hirez
    - And in terms of the resolution 1920 x 1200, I can play games that are 4:3 limited in 1600 x 1200, instead... : the archvile
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      except all movies are now 2.37:1 anyway so you still get black bars and the whole thing is FUCKING STUPID : retarded talking dinosaur
      
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      Movies are 1.85:1 also. Unless some new standard has been enacted in the past couple years that I don't ... : CyCo_PL
      
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      very few movies are still 16:9. almost all i have seen in recent memory are cinemascope 2.35:1 : retarded talking dinosaur
      
      however ALL blu-rays are 16:9 with baked-in black bars : electroly
      
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      this is just not true, things have not changed here much. 2.35:1 is usually for big action movies, 1:85 i... : Maarten Goldstein
      
      ok, you got me, i don't watch comedies. : retarded talking dinosaur
      
      I worked as a projectionist for four years, and it was about half and half. The big budget action movies... : CyCo_PL
  - it's taller. what more argument do you need : electroly
  - I read somewhere about it being closer to the golden ratio? I just like the extra vertical pixels when co... : TrptJim
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    Probably a natural shift as HD televisions got more popular; I believe it's also cheaper to manufacture 1... : jipey
    - It is. Try to compare a 16x10 20 inch and a 16x9 20. : mobab
- rudds, I am totally with you. I do not like or want a 16:9 monitor. : hirez
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  fuck it i want 16:11 : electroly
  - I want a screen that is as elastic and expandable as an old pornstar's vagina, so I can pull it into any ... : Boring Writer
  - 16:12!!!! Wait... : chrisschutz
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  It wont be a problem if you get a 2560x1440 monitor. You at least get 200 more vertical pixels and at th... : recoilfx
  - yep, by eliminating 16:10 they are pushing the enthusiasts into a higher priced product. : malloc
  - or you could have a 2560x1600 and get 160 more pixels : flasher 907
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  16:9 is barely any loss. Yes I prefer 16:10 but it's such a TINY difference. Here is my 23 inch 16:9 and ... : twifosp
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    230,400 pixel difference!!! actually i think for most things it's fine. 16:9 is objectively the best st... : electroly
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    That's really not true. My screens at work at 16:9 and at home I have 16:10s. There is a very noticeable,... : Cheeziologist
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      lol it's all in your head. I have two side by side mounted on monitor arms. You don't miss the 1/3 of a... : twifosp
      
      for gaming it's not a huge deal to me but for doing vertical work like web browsing, coding, reading docu... : flasher 907
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  because the retards of the world thing we are supposed to be watching movies and not working : gyokuro
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    lol you people are just repeating shit you've heard from other people. The only work that really benefit... : twifosp
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      it's 7 extra lines of code at 10 point font, which is what i use : electroly
      
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      taking into account the toolbars and statusbars and the taskbar taking up vertical space, this is a 15% i... : electroly
      
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      I just tested it in notepad and if you have your task bar on the side, you get exactly 7 more lines at 10... : twifosp
      
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      Visual Studio has a lot more vertical real estate used than Notepad. the taskbar to the side doesn't mak : electroly
      
      i also hope it's obvious that not everybody's codebases are exactly the same as yours. i'm glad that you... : electroly
      
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      Granted, but we're still talking about the same vertical space being used up on both aspects.
      
      My arguement isn't about that, it's about 16:10 vs 16:9 only. And it's really not even about that, I'm really only trying to point out that the crusade for 16:10 on the internet is really only due to about 3 people really caring about it, and the rest of the internet is just repeating what they say.
      
      In the end you're right and it comes down to preference. My initial goal was to explain to prospective buyers that 16:9 is really easy to live with and unless it's the #1 thing on your list to have, don't bother tracking down the last 16:10 monitor on the planet. AND that if 16:10 is #1 on your list, you should probably evaluate why. It doesn't really increase productivity for anyone not editing 16:9 content. It might be your preference, but I seriously doubt it increases your coding productivity.
      
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      Granted, but we're still talking about the same vertical space being used up on both aspects. My arg... : twifosp
      
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      i'm sure there are a lot of dumb people who just parrot what they hear, but that doesn't mean there isn't... : electroly
      
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      But that's my point. People are beholding 16:10 as if it actually is some magical aspect ratio that give... : twifosp
      
      i don't think it's really magical, it's just one of the four monitor aspect ratios that monitors commonly... : electroly
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      am i saying that 16:10 was enough? That sucked going from 4:3 now you want to take away more? : gyokuro
      
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      Use portrait then. : twifosp
      
      i have dual 2209WA. They dont make many 4:3 LCD's these days FYI : gyokuro
      
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      I would totally use portrait if it didn't break Cleartype :( : Arctic Fox
      
      ^^^ deal breaker for me too :( : boarder2
      
      This is what I used to do. Then I realized portrait is tall as fuck when using a widescreen monitor. : PointlesS76
    - derpers gotta derp, haters gotta hate. Still bitter I was right about the BP stock? : abrasion
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  True fact: 99/100 people who complain about aspect ratio have never had two of them side by side or edit ... : twifosp
  - I'm going to print a shirt that says "I AM THE 1%" : the archvile
- totally agreed. That's why I'm holding onto my twin HP w2207's until they die. : edgewise
- i like my hp LP2475w : kn1fe
- I love my NEC MultiSync LCD 2690WUXi2. They're still available and at increasingly lower prices. : Volatris
- Dell 30 is still 16:10 : bombay

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