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  UT3 wasn't GFWL and launched after Gears PC. : pyide
  • You can't speak sense to the archvile, he just has to bitch about Microsoft or Activision once a day or h... : ArcKnight
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    UT3 was worse: it was GameSpy. : the archvile
    • yuck : shirif
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      This is a totally different game though. Even though we all hate Gamespy, UT3 was about dedicated servers... : pyide
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        Not having coop for the SP story is not the optimal road for that game. : shirif
        • Supposedly you can play all or most of the SP levels in coop. Will you really be upset if you miss the ST... : pyide
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        What if I don't want to use GFWL instead? This customer service experience doesn't look fun: http://www.... : the archvile
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          I'm with you on this GFWL hate-wagon. : shirif
          • I'd be the first to say GFWL is unnecessary and needs to go away but at the same time I have no reason to... : pyide
      • It makes me sad because those weapons beg for DM...I mean DM with that stuff would be amazing IMHO. : Vorlonesque
  • I speculate that was because it was a sequel and therefore they didn't want to alienate old customers. Wi... : Wisp!
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  How is Epic involved with this game? Like, what's their role in the whole thing? : roushimsx
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    They bought People Can Fly. Probably are funding the game and technical support on the UT3 engine. : shirif
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      Awesome to hear that PCF got a good home. I love it when those little euro houses succeed like that :D ... : roushimsx
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        Yes. I liked Unreal 2 and Return to Na Pali. :( : shirif
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          Those two were actually made by Legend Entertainment, who were shut down by Atari in January 2004. : the archvile
          • Thanks :) Just read some more on twiki, poor Legend had some momentum to them :( Regarding DE, I must b... : shirif
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      Cliff Bleszinski is also the "design director" on it. : the archvile
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        "Guys we should put the word 'fuck' in here to make it edgy!" : roushimsx
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          Actually he's the guy that said "You can kick dudes? Totally need giant cactus to shank'em on". That bein... : locater16
          • Gears 2 was a good game. : shirif
          • horde mode was great, and probably had a hand in the survival modes in l4d and the zombie modes in waw : synapse19
• Some quotes from the source article: http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=24946 We knew we wanted an ov : the archvile
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  Is Bulletstorm confirmed to be a GFWL title? I hadn't heard that. : rudds
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    http://news.bigdownload.com/2010/12/23/bulletstorm-limited-edition-revealed-games-for-windows-live-sup/ : pyide
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      Man, I know a bunch of you guys hate GWFL and I admit it's a minor inconvenience, but the way I see it I : rudds
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        It's more important that the game boots without hassle and has a working save system than to have CHEEVOS... : SpaecKow
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          boots? shit, the game is all about boots. : roushimsx
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            are cheevos boots? heh! : SpaecKow
            • oh meh nvm : SpaecKow
        • agreed; I don't play games for cheevos, trying to S-rank every damn game. I play games to have interesti... : the archvile
      • I just wish Epic would use steamworks.. Don't really care anymore about achievements. : razlebol
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        Steam could do achievements too :) : Godhatesfatpeople
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          Yeah but they don't add to your k-rad xbox live gamerscore : SpaecKow
          • Whenever someone IRL asks me "what my gamerscore is" I murder them...with my penis...in the eye socket. ... : Vorlonesque
      • I wouldn't have any problem with GFWL if it just worked. Every GFWL game that I've bought has had issues,... : PointlesS76
      • The bullshit you guys are willing to put up with for achievements is pathetic :( : AgentPothead
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        The Shack PC crew doesn't care for cheevos. Except for MoreVespeneGas, but he's special. My issue is t... : LoioshDwaggie
        • It seems that half the time, the mouse won't work on the GFWL overlay. : shirif
      • If GFWL worked as consistently as Steam, I wouldn't have a problem using it. It doesn't, though. : Durajim
      • GFWL is really hit or miss. And it definitely depends on the game. DoW2, GFWL works most of the time as i... : Dschinghis Khan
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    GFWL = deal killer : dognose
    • Games For Weepy Losers, more like it. (don't give this a lol, dognose. I don't want to give you the im... : ArB
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  I'm glad it's not a cover based game. Fuck them. : freshyk
  • seriously : shirif
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    What i don't understand is why cover mechanics need to exist in shooters. I have been using cover since t... : chrisschutz
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      I will now reveal to you why this mechanic exists. It is incredible. I will tell you, but if you become a... : SpaecKow
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        I would think Halo and CoD are evidence that people can crouch and strafe. : chrisschutz
        • I would think that too, but check out some early interviews Cliffy did before release of GoW1. He talks a... : SpaecKow
      • They think this is fun gameplay: http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:NG2_28.jpg : the archvile
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        Vegas 2 is awesome!!! : Rice-Rocketeer
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          Vegas has the least shitty cover system. I only played Vegas 1 but it was the least obnoxious. It was sti... : SpaecKow
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            Vegas 2's is even more refined. I find other cover systems to be pretty shitty to be honest, but Vegas : Rice-Rocketeer
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              Deus Ex Human Revolution has a cover system, but in one of the interviews they were like "heh, yeah, we g... : SpaecKow
              • They certainly know how to present it well in interviews and videos. I'm so hyped for it. If it hurts ... : Rice-Rocketeer
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        Strafing is easier on a console tbh. Circle strafe is just pushing the two sticks in opposite directions... : batkiwi
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          You ever seen someone play their first FPS? It's tragic. I actually understand their concerns. : SpaecKow
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            Developing for consumers instead of making their own games is why the PC gaming golden era died. : Marrbe
            • Yet profits increased...they won. : kingdepork
    • to regen your health, duh. : devpaul
    • I don't have a problem with cover systems in concept, though in practice a lot of them are really bad. ev : DeBurgo
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      I thought Killzone 2's cover system was pretty decent. Even though it was pretty clunky, it had the right... : PointlesS76
      • Yes, I really enjoyed the mechanics and combat in KZ2. : Dave-A
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      It's a way to allow you to make more complicated moves that can't map directly to controls. If you think ... : Dave-A
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        this is why im excited about Breach : boring gegtik
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          You're excited about a game?! : Dave-A
          • the last game i was excited about was epic mickey =\ : boring gegtik
      • This is the answer. Cover is cool, however since Gear's we're seeing developers rely on it too heavily. ... : -JLN-
      • Yep. I think games should have cover but it should be as common as prone or crouch. They just need not to... : razlebol
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        I also thought Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway had a nice cover system, too. Also. As well. : Dschinghis Khan
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          Indeed, that came to mind when I saw this topic : Dave-A
          • I think for Bulletstorm it would have been cool if it had a cover system but it was optional. That way yo... : Dschinghis Khan
      • Track-IR led to some interesting cover stuff in ARMA I understand. : Vorlonesque
• Ug, thang god it's not. I can't express how much I prefer fps to third person, unless it's a game like to... : Dynotaku
• Thank god they got hit by a bout of creative energy! : enyakk
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  I'm bummed it doesn't have DM. I think DM in that game could have been amazing. Especially if they had bunnyhopping ala Painkiller...even without...it could have been just great with those crazy weapons and kill bonus things and awesome shit.
  
  Hopefully they'll release some mod tools so someone can do DM.
  
  I'm still looking forward to the game...but its not my most anticipated game like it used to be...its a "this looks like some fun for a few weeks" game.

  Jan 09, 2011 12:51pm PST
  I'm bummed it doesn't have DM. I think DM in that game could have been amazing. Especially if they had ... : Vorlonesque