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• They cannot. Intel does not see DX11 being an important market for this release. : Rooster Cockburn
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  Why would you want DX11? Their performance is very low still. : sanchez
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    Whose performance? Intel's? Or Dx11 titles? : daVinci1980
    • Intel's onboard GPU : sanchez
  • Acutally, for WoW, dx11 gives about a 30 FPS increase in the current beta state. : Robotic Puppy Eater
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  the on-chip ones? I thought you were an enthusiast! :P dedicated graphics card! : Downforce
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    Oh of course! I'm stupid, I thought both the processor AND the video card needed to be able to run dx11. ... : DM7
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      No, the CPU is DirectX version agnostic, the Sandy Bridge integrated graphics processor is DX10 with Dire... : Toraz Chryx
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        Never heard the term discrete video card before, that's another name for dedicated video card correct? : DM7
        • that is correct : Chandler55
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          I think the term originated in laptops to differentiate the ones with separate video cards as opposed to ... : sanchez
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            damn you are such a nerd : Chandler55
            • How else am I to impress the ladies? : sanchez
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  Sandy Bridge is XP only. : pimpium
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    You have to set the IRQ for each pin on the mobo. : lolpatrol
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      I almost miss the challenge of IRQ, DMA, and other conflicts. :( : pimpium
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        and loading drivers high? : hussdelrio
        • Managing the precious UMA was the key! : tcs
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      IRQs must be set using physical jumpers, not via software. : Faluzure
      • The underside of the Sandy Bridge CPU has 1155 pins which you must bridge in a stylish pattern for the CP... : sanchez
  • Crap, there goes me playing battlefield 3. ;) : DM7
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  Sandy Bridge supports DX10.1 Ivy Bridge, the shrunk version of Sandy Bridge which is due in 2012, shou... : Beady
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    Plus the Quick Sync tech (which allows you to transcode video at 2x the rate of anything else out there) ... : sanchez
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      Quicksync might be a ton faster than doing it on the cpu cores, but I don't believe for a second it's twi... : Toraz Chryx
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        Anandtech only tested the GTX460: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i... : sanchez
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          Be careful not to confuse THAT implementation in CUDA with anything inherently to CUDA, there are several... : Toraz Chryx
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            Hmm, the article made it seem like it was CUDA itself producing such a shitty image and not the encoder s... : sanchez
            • If the developer chooses to go for performance over image quality in a particular encoder, that's not the... : Toraz Chryx
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    I found onboard graphics occasionally useful for trouble shooting, but that's still batshit. : node
    • Intel will release the Z series chipset which will support both overclocking and the onboard GPU - not su... : sanchez
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    The real benefit of the on die GPU is for laptops, not desktops: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4084/intel... : Serpico74
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      Yep, but these are specific desktop chips. Seems a silly choice to make, but oh well I'm sure someone in ... : Beady
      • Think about the vast majority of people who aren't really gamers though. I know for my work system (well... : nukewinter
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  Speaking of Sandy Bridge, does anyone know what kind of prices we're looking at for the CPUs and motherbo... : Gnowknayme
  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge_(microarchitecture)#Desktop_Processors Dunno about mobos, pr... : sanchez
• what is going on in this thread : pancake humper
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  you can't use them for good gaming, intels driver support is usually very bad for directx and/or opengl. : matthaeus
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    Relevant quote: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4084/intels-sandy-bridge-upheaval-in-the-mobile-landscape/5 : Serpico74
    • Well according to computerbase.de Metro 2033 didn't even start and Mafia 2 ran really slow. At least the ... : matthaeus
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  Anyone else thing its the worst code name of an architecture ever? Makes me think of sandy vagina. : rick
  • Yes: http://winchatty.com/search.php?terms=sandy+vagina&author=&parentAuthor=&category= : hussdelrio
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  This whole "sandy bridge" thing confuses me. I used to be so on top of all this shit. My machine is be... : Entity
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    Of course, if you put a PCI card in the ad on GPU will be disabled. The only use for the built in GPU i... : nukewinter
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      That's kinda what I thought, but I also thought "Maybe Intel is attempting to get serious now" and that S... : Entity
      • The integrated graphics are dramatically better than anything Intel has made before. It will change the l... : Goncyn
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      Shoulda made it a physx "card" instead. That would actually have been used. : Marrbe
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        The integrated GPU will still be useful for its video transcoding features. : Goncyn
        • Only if you're on an H67 mobo which does not support OCing. Intel did say they're working on a driver tha... : sanchez
  • You could use it to power an additional display. The h67 mobos support the integrated graphics, the p67... : Beady
  • you have an i5 and are already looking to put together a new machine? goodness, maybe it's good think i ... : ibrokn
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    I wouldn't worry about upgrading from an i5 to this, the jump isn't worth it. Look at swapping out your v... : Serpico74
    • I have a core 2 duo, that's why I thinking heavily about upgrading. Maybe I can move my upgrade wishlis... : DM7
    • I forgot what I bought. I actually have an i7 : Entity
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  this Sandy Bridge bitch sounds pretty hot : TPSReport
  • I might buy her in the next couple months, back off! ;) : DM7

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  Whaaaa.... this game used to be all the rage on the shack. You still hear about it every now and again, ... : TEXIT
  • This ^. It was ALL OVER the shack when it came out last summer - I played maybe 15 minutes of it but wasn... : coraldayton
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_Arkham_City late 2011 : dirge23
• Please nuke : EricZBA
• I just bought this, along with Mafia 2 and Alan Wake used at Gamstop. Lots of good gaming in my future. : jvox
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  wtf242 feigned ignorance post : Dravenport
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    You got it in one! : NastyJack
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      it's probably my least favourite wtf242 personality traits : Dravenport
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        I agree but I figured mine would be obvious enough that no one would take me seriously. I just want to ta... : NastyJack
        • I didn't realize it was an homage post, but you should look at the reactions you get versus the ones wtf2... : Dravenport
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        I find it tired and bothersome as well. : hirez
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          Hey have any of you guys heard of that game Oregon Trail? It's pretty fun I picked it up for the first ti... : yosemiteclimber
          • 37?!? : hirez
      • I concur. drives me bonkers : hamachi
    • well done! : sammyl
    • well played : derelict515
• i've never played AA but all i know is it was CONSTANTLY aped on shacknews as the second coming of christ : electroly
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  I'm surprised no one on shacknews even once mentioned how awesome Half-Life 2 is. I'm about 30% done and ... : Crabs Jarrard
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    GODDAMMIT WHEN DID THEY MAKE A HALF-LIFE 2?!!? : Nerdsbeware
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      WHOA WHOA WHOA! HOLD THE FUCK UP! YOU TALK ABOUT GAMES ON THIS SITE!?! : AxeMan808
      • WTF THERE ARE REAL PEOPLE HERE?! : Rehevkor
  • I just got out of the train station and a tripod thing walked by /srs : MamiyaOtaru
• Dude, two years ago there were tons of Batman:AA threads. : giant boy detective
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  It needed about 50% less vent crawling, but it was definitely a good game. : pandastrong
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    Batman: Air Duct Cleaner DX : DHAvatar
    • Maybe Gordan Freeman = Batman! : zipr
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  What the world needs now is a Spiderman game that's as good as Batman AA. : awaypaster
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    What the world needs now is a Spiderman Wolverine game that's as good as Batman AA. : uebersoldat
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      What the world needs now is love sweet love a Spider-Man, Wolverine, Punisher, Black Cat game that's as g... : Dschinghis Khan
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        What the world needs now is love sweet love a Spider-Man, Wolverine, Punisher, Black Cat Super Man game t... : one random winner
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          It seems like it's a lot harder to pull off good games with larger-than-life superheroes like Iron Man or... : passingstranger
          • Agreed, although I think it's mostly super hero's that can fly, no one seems to understand how to make th... : one random winner
          • I don't know that i'd put Iron Man in the same league as Supes. Superman is just plain unfair...which is ... : uebersoldat
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      Wasn't the Wolverine game that came out a couple years ago good? I remember people liking it (I never pl... : aethyr
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        Xmen Origins Wolverine. It was ok, but it was a fairly repetitive, linear brawler. I beat it tho, which... : mwasher
        • What really stood out about this title was the fact that for once a game based on a movie was actually BE... : DirkSpanners
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    Spiderman: Shattered Dimensions was supposedly good... anybody here played it? : Nitrium
    • 's Ok so far. A little jank. Horrible voice acting aside, I liked Web of Shadows better thus far. : sevogajre
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  Yah i played it last year during the East Coast Snow Storm.... beat it in about 5 days, it was awesome! : Shadowdane
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    Haha I played Mass Effect 2 for 12 hours straight pretty much during that storm. : Nerdsbeware
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      Me too! My wife took the kids and bailed out to my parents' place down in Stafford, since my employer's ... : Wadmaasi
      • Our company policy is pretty much the same heh. I too said kiss my ass. : Nerdsbeware
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  Hamill is just amazing in AA. I loved every second of him on screen. Also I'd argue there has been no... : passingstranger
  • i wish the combat in AC2/ASSBRO was as good as Batman : dirge23
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    The combat is soooo satisfying. The impact of your strikes, getting the timing right, picking the perfect... : NastyJack
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      Challenge mode, bro. Challenge mode. : passingstranger
      • Yeah I did a bit of practicing in that. Good fun! : NastyJack
  • i'd agree with the fighting mechanic. : AMikaboshi
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  No one mentioned this? Really? : The Grolar Bear
  • Oh never mind, I see what you did there. : The Grolar Bear
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  Batman was really full of himself in that game. : burning eye
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    Dude, he can push a button and A JET APPEARS, he can get away with it. : Rehevkor
    • There was one point where some good guys were guarding a door, and batman spooked them by coming in from ... : burning eye
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  WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?!?!? This site has been all about Batman: AA, you just haven't been listening : Cheeziologist
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    you missed what he did thar :) : pointyelbows
    • indeed. NastyJack 1, Cheeziologist 0 : Cheeziologist
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  Is this a joke post? : razlebol
  • what he did there, you may have missed it. : Haxim
• http://www.shacknews.com/search.x?type=comments&terms=Arkham+Asylum+awesome&cs_user=&cs_parentauthor=&s_t... : Trips
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  With the exception of Gordon, virtually all the voice actors from the animated series reprise their roles... : Conan
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    Really? I know Batman is supposed to be stoic and he's not a real wisecracker exactly but to me he just s... : NastyJack
    • Hmm... this door is locked! I need to find some other way to get inside. : awaypaster
    • I thought the performance was pretty good. : Nitrium
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    Mark Hamill is most definitely my favorite Joker : Cheeziologist
    • I was surprised by how well John DiMaggio worked as Joker in Under the Red Hood. Nothing near Hamill or ... : passingstranger
• Ive been bragging about it since I bought it two months ago! : YerMothah
• hey blindy mc.blinderson. open your eyes once and a while : JohnnyRey
• they better have mr.freeze in Arkham City and he better be voiced by the guy from the animated city, just : AMikaboshi
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  im surprised you dont know how to read threads around here : sreyes22
  • How surprised are you? : pandastrong
  • Oh sweet irony. : FS|Archangel
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  haha bravo NastyJack. : mwasher
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    also, I rented this and only got about 20% into it or so. I think maybe I should pick it up on the way h... : mwasher
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      YOU SHOULD. There is nothing to dislike about it. It's just good gaming. I'm playing it on PC with my PS3... : NastyJack
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        I'm playing it on PC with my PS3 X360 controller so I get the great graphics of my PC and the great contr... : JohnnyRey
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          What's the difference? Don't you have to buy something if you want to use your 360 controller on PC? Also... : NastyJack
          • I'm just messing with you =) : JohnnyRey
• I'm jumping on this train too. I also bought Batman:AA during the Steam sale. I will never doubt the Sh... : greenbergMD
• I remember Batman AA threads all over the place when the game came out. I bought it a couple months ago ... : xylopagus
• I smiled. Thanks wtf242. : herradura99
• I've been playing this game called Minecraft, I'm surprised nobody on shacknews has mentioned how awesome... : phate81
• i was gonna get it for $19, but i already bough alan wake and ufc 2010 for $19 and still have to finish M... : vassili_zaitsev
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  I keep hearing good things about it, but I don't want to waste my time or money checking it out only to d... : roushimsx
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    It's awesome. Best Metroid game since Metroid Prime. : cpt_gloval
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      If I was crazy about Super Metroid but didn't really get into the Primes will I like Batman: AA? : indosauros
      • Yes, it is so god damn much better than Metroid Prime. I didn't really care for Metroid Prime (pretty awf... : roushimsx
  • Lol roushi : Nitrium
  • It was only $7.50 during the steam sale. :( I've played the demo before but I'm still shocked at how g... : pyide
  • WTF roushi, WTF? : thetangent

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• salvia leaves : dirge23
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  you think that's a salad they're eating? : one random winner
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    Is this leading to a prison joke? : warcrow
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      Matrix : MegaTroncek
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        Is this leading to a spoon joke? : warcrow
        • After I have sex with them, there is no spoon. : HL3dsx
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  commercials featuring women eating yogurt or salad always shows them laughing as if it's the best thing i... : EvilDolemite
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    I like shampoo commercials because the women are always in the middle of an orgasm : cptstern
    • i still think of Herbal Essences as "that shampoo that makes a woman fake an orgasm" : dirge23
• They're all :D when really on the inside they're ;_; : deKaf
• iceberg lettuce salads are the worst : dantastic
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  ' ? : vx2o
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    who're :/ : warcrow
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      hahahaha. i was like "well yeah they're doing commercials but that seems like a strong word" : dirge23
      • lol me too : Arctic Fox
      • Thirded. : limpossible
    • wa'rcrow :/ : CrustaR
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      I swear my iPhone hates me. It corrects stuff when I don't want it to, and then it doesn't do squat when ... : warcrow
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        ah, that makes sense. i was all "warcrow is way too nice to call these fine gals whores!" however, i : dahanese
        • i'd go with SaladStrumpet for the alliteration. : mindmann
        • SaladWhore seems pretty great because it implies great fun while being lite & healthy. : warcrow
      • Mine does it all the time. I've given up on grammar and spelling on it. Such a pain. : bombay
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        i think i've turned off autocorrection on every device i've ever used, since it usually turns out to be a... : dirge23
        • I really hate chrome's spellcheck. Half the time I just end up googling whatever it is I'm trying to writ... : Haxim
      • steve jobs is worse than hitler : datoo
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      hahaha I was wondering about that : mikecyb
      • its so shacknews to not even notice : boring gegtik
    • lol I thought you were a misogynist : cptstern
    • They're just trying to earn a living, warcrow, why you gotta hate? : dfay
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      Are you Ralph Cifaretto from the Sopranos? : K1Bond007
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        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_87pRe1MUwE : K1Bond007
        • Who-ah! : warcrow
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      Don't you mean "who's"? :-P : thetangent
      • Oh wait, there's multiple pics. NM. : thetangent
• "Hahaha!! O shit I'm still going to be hungry after this SALAD.. HAHAHAHA" : g0nk
• haha this is why I love stock photography. : jenisthebest
• Related stories section: Do You Want to Have Anal Sex With Your Funny Friend? Do You Mind That We'r : silentbobuk
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  And now I just realized I was laughing alone with my computer. : Haxim
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    http://www.shackpics.com/files/puter_dlpi71iuyndpemkaip85.jpg : jvox
    • LLOOLL : one random winner
    • hahaha : Dravenport
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      why is this so funny : indosauros
      • horse teeth : wendigo
      • cause it's an old ass computer : hussdelrio
    • lol wtf : ass-street
    • hahaa : niceguynick
    • lolllllll : vile
    • Ahaha : warcrow
    • Hahaha : Dschinghis Khan
    • haha : pancake humper
    • hahahah : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • Lolololol just spit my gum out. : HL3dsx
    • delicious : GloriousCow
    • Hahaha, nice : Volatus32x
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  Reminds me how awesome Sarah Haskins used to be on Infomania : stuka
  • The new girl is pretty good (though still not Sarah just yet), but she and Bryan are a better team than t... : mrblarg
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  http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7092/gettyisnuts.jpg http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/2325/gettyisr... : Godhatesfatpeople
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    Awesome, desktop size and everything : byorn
    • It's like a gift from the gods! : warcrow

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  Thank god : LoioshDwaggie
  • My thoughts exactly :) I am sure allot of us have kick ass PC gaming rigs with shit loads of power jus... : valcan_s
• good thing I wont be playing on a 5 year old pc running xp like the one I use at work (as a secondary pc)... : cptstern
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  I wouldnt want them to dump 32 bit support. I only have 2gb of ram and therefore got windows 7 32 bit >:[... : hobohun7er
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    Why would you do that? Even if you only have 2GB of RAM, 64-bit is still better. Unless you have a 32-b... : deject
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      Good point, isn't it the same price? Also, I'd want more than 2GB of ram for BF3 anyway. : g3dHorse
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        You just select it while installing. I think you get the ability to select which one you want when you bu... : chrisschutz
        • Nah, its only when you actually use the key. If you use it for 64-bit, then it's tied to 64-bit, same wi... : deject
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      If you're not using the increased address space, then I think driver incompatibility issues outweigh any ... : jim bone
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        what driver incompatibility issues? that shit got sorted out years ago : harold.johnson
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          Not for older hardware. : jim bone
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            How old are we talking? : chrisschutz
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              Well I have a USB oscilloscope I bought about 5 years ago that I needed to replace because of lack of 64 ... : jim bone
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                Can't you use a virtual machine? : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
                • That's certainly one solution. In my case I just bought a new scope. I sometimes write program which in... : jim bone
      • there are essentially none if you have stuff made in the past 3-4 years. This thinking is what is holdin... : deject
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    That doesn't impede you of installing a x64 OS, though. : Nitrium
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      Wanna buy it for me :P : hobohun7er
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        It's on the same disk, isn't it? : MPLStagger
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          Your license for win7 isn't tied to a bit type I think. Maybe some are some are sold as such, not sure. : jimmy_legs
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            Windows 7 keys will work with either 64-bit or 32-bit. Once you've used the key to install the OS it is ... : deject
            • It works, I've switched machines from one to the other, although they were tier 1 OEM keys and were proba... : etherboy
            • Thats just the activation stuff being silly and detecting multiple installs on more than one system (beca... : Beady
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              This is completely untrue, they work on any version, multiple times, you just need to get a copy of the i... : abrasion
              • Interesting, I remember reading that was how it was early on but good. : deject
        • I have 2 different disk but they were given in the same copy. : razlebol
  • Why would you do that? Its not like 7-64 cost any more, or will do any worse with less ram. : re-verse
• Hopefully my Ati 5850 will be able to run it in dx11 mode in good framerates : hanged_man
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  This is fantastic news for PC gaming!!!! : TEXIT
  • DX10 and DX11 pipelines are so much better. Plus we'll finally get games that support AA properly. (I'm l... : LoioshDwaggie
  • Agreed, this strengthens the case for the PC platform. : The Grolar Bear
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  time for a refresh on the steam hardware survey!! : Downforce
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    Like this one? http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey : one random winner
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      Looks like they're alienating about 40% of their potential fanbase, but I'd expect that may be cut in hal... : one random winner
      • what's funny is that BLOPS automatically discards 17% since the min req. is at least dual core. so yeah ... : Downforce
• I liked it better when the headline was "No XP for Battlefield 3." : pigvomit
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  I still find it hard to believe, I mean they are planning a console version too right? : X-GOUKI
  • bad company 1 was console only, bc2 is the same engine yet they added dx10 support for pc, they are not t... : HisKillSkill
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    frostbite 2 will be for 360, ps3 and pc : flasher 907
    • so it will run on DX9 (on the 360). So somewhat odd they wouldn't do a dx9 path for PC, but understandab... : MamiyaOtaru
• I welcome this news. : ShadowRam
• I still use XP at home, but I don't mind this; expected it sooner actually. This is just the heads-up tha... : eskimo spy
• XP, you served us well for many years, blue-and-green default scheme be damned. But now it is time to go;... : Entity
• yeah it's time to let xp go : xxx2xxx
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  Theres really no need to move to DX10/11 and 64bit only yet. When the next console cycle hits, for sure b... : thewindcriesmary
  • i cant think of anyone without a dx10 card nowadays : HisKillSkill
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    plenty of games won't run well on that configuration. the advanced stuff like BC2, Metro 2033, and Starc... : EvilDolemite
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      i have a dual core 2.6ghz, 2 gig ram, and a gtx 260 and i run starcraft 2 maxed. Only problem with my sys... : thewindcriesmary
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        i have a hard time believing that because i hear other reports from people with superior hardware. what ... : EvilDolemite
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          only 1440x900 : thewindcriesmary
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            that's probably a big part of it. 1920 would kill that hardware. hell even my (faster) system needs to ... : EvilDolemite
            • definetly, hooking my pc up to better screens or tvs and the performance is alot worse trying to run high... : thewindcriesmary
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            Can you take a screenshot of your settings? I always find these conversations interesting when people... : pancake humper
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              http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/879/sc2g.jpg frame counter top left, just a bunch of marines in a pro... : thewindcriesmary
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                Physics are Off. I bet that is a huge resource helper :) : pancake humper
                • Seriously : deject
                • its not huge but its definetly noticable, really the only problem with my pc performance is memory gettin... : thewindcriesmary
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                So in other words, you really don't run Starcraft 2 maxed : Phreakin
                • i probably could, but i beg your humbled opinion for not having it on. Its not like the game is pushing m... : thewindcriesmary
        • some people dont mind playing at 20fps : HisKillSkill
        • I have similar specs and i run sc2 fine at 1920x1080. : WootheDave
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    My bet is that you don't have the hardware, thus you are disappointed. If you did, this would be fantast... : TEXIT
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      c2d 2.6ghz, 2 gig ram, gtx260. I'll be upgrading to w7 64bit and 4 gig ram in a few weeks. So no, im not ... : thewindcriesmary
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        It really is a good thing, DX9 has been around since 2002. Progression is a good thing. : TEXIT
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          I know, i want progression dont get me wrong! its just is the PC audience going to make the move when so ... : thewindcriesmary
          • Battlefield is huge, people will upgrade. By the time it comes out DX10/11 cards will be super cheap. : TEXIT
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    That computer will run games fine if you want to turn your graphical settings down for newer games. The m... : Hemtroll
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      thats awesome, but is the market big enough to warrant it? im not trying to be annoying its just a reason... : thewindcriesmary
      • I'd say it is. Better graphics and more powerful hardware is a big part of PC gaming over consoles and th... : Hemtroll
      • It's the right time. Look at the stuff on the Steam sale this year and the 2011 PC game release list. The... : thebigbeefsandwich
  • Widescreen monitors are dirt cheap now so that isn't really true if you factor in everyone shifting to a ... : jingletard
  • there's really no need to move to 4G. there's really no need to move to wifi-N. : Downforce
  • It cost like 300-400$ to build a PC capable of using dx11 if you don't count the OS and the screen... ... : razlebol
• thanks be to our glorious Windows 7 gods : redfive
• Good. XP did good, but it's time to move on. : MegaTroncek
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  good. Surprised ID hasn't said this with RAGE (yet) . : pancake humper
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    i thought carmack was still rocking with opengl? : HisKillSkill
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      I have no idea I can never understand him : pancake humper
      • spherical rocket fusion transfusion..... : TEXIT
    • given that it's coming out for the 360, he's gonna have to write a DX rendering path too : moshman
    • Pretty sure they announced that the target platform for RAGE was the 360, which pretty much means DX. : Halen
  • I really get the feeling that id is trying to appeal to a broad audience with RAGE. They want all the sa... : TEXIT
  • http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1048092/rage-rages-dx10 Bad news for Microsoft though - Rage ... : razlebol
• I've had some stability issues with DX10/11 games that were resolved by going back to DX9. Most recently,... : dael
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  PC GAMING : jason bergman
  • Fuck Yeah! : TEXIT
• from what I have heard BF3 is going to blow us away graphically : moshman
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  if only a company like blizzard imposed some strict requirements like this, it might force everyone to up... : ballystix
  • blizzard isn't the company to do this. they enjoy too much success with their scalable engines and low r... : EvilDolemite
  • Blizzard wouldn't be where it is today if they were the company you described. : barcibus
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    I believe the company you're looking for is Bethesda or id. : one random winner
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      Pushing platforms is anathema to Blizzard's goals. Same with Valve. Crytech and Epic are the teams for... : LoioshDwaggie
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        Crytech's next engine seems to be a step backwards, Epic would work though. : one random winner
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          On the PC it is pushing ahead. It also has an optimized path with inferior options for the Console. Basic... : LoioshDwaggie
          • Everything I've seen seems to put CryEngine3 a notch below CryEngine2, though much more optimized. Hopef... : one random winner
• It is time for WinXP to go. DX9 support not being in an upcoming game doesn't seem like a big deal. I wou... : funnynamehere
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  PC moving forward, consoles not : watcherxp
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    what does this mean? consoles move forward when a new generation launches. : EvilDolemite
    • New generation = Kinect! :D Hint: I'm being facetious : LoioshDwaggie
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      i'll still be playing BF3 on 360 so it doesn't really mean a thing except for people still living the PC ... : dantastic
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        And so will everyone else. This poast really makes no more sense than watcher's : Dschinghis Khan
        • it wasn't supposed to : dantastic
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      I think that's what he means, PC games can constantly push hardware ever forward (even though many choose... : Hemtroll
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        It's not like the graphics arn't good enough anyways (save the lack of AA). I think developers should poi... : LoioshDwaggie
        • Well graphics aren't everything for sure, when you look at that side by side comparison of New Vegas on P... : Hemtroll
        • Graphics always need to move forward. No developer is ever going to say "well enough is enough this is as... : Blackdawgg
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        PC games are equally stuck because most games are cross-platform, and the ones that aren't still need to ... : Zek
        • Depends on the game. Strategy games barely exist on consoles because of controller limitations and the on... : Hemtroll
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        So who do you think will make the first move for a new console... I'm almost thinking Nintendo might j... : Shadowdane
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          Well I would guess that at least Sony and MS are working on something, either a hardware upgrade of exist... : Hemtroll
          • Yah I'm sure they have something in the pipe, it is just unknown how soon we will see something. There w... : Shadowdane
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            IGN reported on some Wii2 news... apparently Nintendo confirmed it's in the works, but no official info... : Shadowdane
            • Those kind of reports are hilarious. Duh, they're working on a Wii2. MS is working on a NeXBox and Sony ... : LoioshDwaggie
            • Maybe. It'll be interesting to see how they try to sell a Wii2, the Wii was all about motion controls and... : Hemtroll
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        i probably would have to push my PC by spending 2x as much as a 250GB xbox to play BF3 decently on it tho : dantastic
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          That's not the point, you could also say that you have to spend the money for a HDTV if you want to play ... : Hemtroll
          • also, in this case "good" game means technically impressive : Hemtroll
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            but i already have a tv to watch cable and bluray movies on. i never had fun in big player count serve... : dantastic
            • Well that's up to every person, I'm just listing my reasons for wanting a new console generation. In the ... : Hemtroll
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    Was listening to the radio yesterday and one of the hosts got a Kinect over Christmas. He was gushing ab... : Crimsonbeak
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      FYI, that's paid advertising. I'd bet that same radio station has ads for Bing. : dedgecko
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        yeah it is pretty much impossible that someone would legitimately like those!! : derelict515
        • Oh I don't deny that people could definitely like them. However, when the hosts openly discuss advertise... : dedgecko
      • No it was Anthony from Opie and Anthony. It could have been an ad because he does do live reads for the ... : Crimsonbeak
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  There's no reason to dump a 32bit OS right now. XP won't be supported because it can't do DirectX 10. ... : K1Bond007
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    I think there is a major reason to dump 32bit permanently for all future OS's and software for the PC in ... : valcan_s
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      But in the end they have to make their game accessible. 32bit OS's make up approximately 50% of the Steam... : K1Bond007
      • You are right. It just be very progressive for the games, os and software in general to halt 32 enviro... : valcan_s
• Thank God. All the morons clinging to their archaic OSes were holding us back. : herradura99
• Stupid question, but is the OS on a 360 / PS3 32 or 64bit? Curious to know if BF3 is even going to lau... : dedgecko
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  I hope the next version of windows is 64 bit only. 4 gigs is terribly limiting. : baron calamity
  • Yah if 32bit is needed for Tablets or Netbooks they should make a specific version just for those compute... : Shadowdane
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  That's weird cause isnt' the 360 basically running DX9? : Dynotaku
  • It has it's own version, but it's based on DX9. It can do DX10 stuff though. : K1Bond007
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  I'd say: DX10 done right. Not just a DX9 port with some DX10 function calls... : matthaeus
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    Like bc2 its going to be a multiplatform game so you have your answer right there. : HisKillSkill
    • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=24924424#itemanchor_24924424 : matthaeus
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  I just hope we get 64 player servers and sea battles. : stgdz
  • bf 1942 "wake" is still awesome :-) : matthaeus
  • I'm with ya, I miss the full combination of naval / land / air combat of the orginal game in huge maps wi... : Tech T
• Kinda old news, since this was tweeted in August 2010. Some site seems to have been picked this one up to... : vx2o
• Wow, PC pushing a game? Weird. : braaains
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  Sounds good to me. MK for life! : pun][sher
  • MK] for life!r true dat, and we get to play this year --> April 2011 OMG! Gona be insane, can not wai... : valcan_s
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  I'm surprised at the lack of "But XP is still a perfectly viable OS!" posts in this thread. I'm just glad... : ColoradoCNC
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    People are finally out of denial that XP is a shitty OS, now that there is finally a viable Windows alter... : Serpico74
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      XP was a great OS... 7 is better though. : razlebol
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        Saying 7 is better is a crazy understatement. I was sick of XP by the time OS 10.4 rolled around in 2005,... : Serpico74
        • I wasn't sick of it at all. It was a great change but it didn't make that big of a difference to me at al... : razlebol
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    If 7 wasn't as great as it is, I'm sure we'd see more posts like that. : jingletard
    • Vista SP1 was also fine, people were just turned off by the shitty launch it had. Well, that and a few re : Serpico74
• I wonder if this will have an impact on the Xbox360 version, or if the engine code for PC is so different... : Code RedBeard
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  Doesn't make much sense since the 360 is essentially a DX9 level machine with some special sauce : Yanks
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    peeeecccceeeeee : TEXIT
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      yes and since they write console first, pc second it makes sense that they would support that configurati... : Yanks
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        Where does it say that Battlefield 3 is a console port? ................. : TEXIT
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          bc2 was and bf3 will be no different : HisKillSkill
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            i'm glad you cleared that up for us. what do you do at DICE? engine work? art? : EvilDolemite
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              hint: the beta access that came with medal of honor said gold xbl sub required : HisKillSkill
              • I can see clearly now the ...... : TEXIT
              • Games for clusterfuck Live only! : Beady
  • Most of the changes in DX9 -> DX10, API-wise, have some analogue on the Xbox 360, and a good deal of the ... : uncleanmonkey
• Having seen what they're doing for the graphics in their talks it quite frankly looks AWESOME. A nice pc ... : locater16
• Also in the news: Forza 3 won't play on the original xbox : cpt_gloval
• They should have ditched 32 bit support as well. : Dr_Cube
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  But will they finally give us a fucking non shitty FOV as default? : Beady
  • LOL, classic, I agree. 110 or 90 please, shit what am I saying gives us a slider from 40 to 200, its ... : valcan_s
• Oh man I can't wait for that flash UI again WOOOOO please don't suck please don't suck please don't suck : stuka

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  Man, they pretty much spoil every action scene. Haha. : pigvomit
  • Hey, I tagged it.... If one were stupid enough to watch it than I can't be held responsible... : DrillBit
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  Seeing how they did the face mapping, now I'm actually disappointed with how CLUs mouth movements are so ... : Slowtreme
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    That really was the one part that hit the uncanny valley for me. Much of the facial animation was spot-o... : Rotten Deadite
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      Going by the video I can see why the mouth seemed off. They were interpreting the mouth based on the are... : Crimsonbeak
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        that's correct. the make up doesn't take to the lips as they're too moist and upon closing the mouth, it... : ibrokn
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          he was "normal" age for most of the movie. : Slowtreme
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            no .... he was normal age for the middle third of the movie. everything up till him stepping onto the s... : ibrokn
            • also, after doing more than clicking through it, i realize they did multiple types of facial capture, and... : ibrokn
  • really? it didn't really bother me, other than the fact that at the beginning he looked younger than he d... : Dravenport
• Fascinating stuff : Navy Spitfire
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  The CG face is so bad. The movie is already visually dated, even more than the original movie. : BouillonCubes
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    I wish they had done what was done in X-Men 3 instead. : BouillonCubes
    • That was horrific. : Jonathan
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    Wow, you are crazy as hell. : MercFox1
    • In 5 or 10 years when they get CG faces past the uncanny valley, this movie will stand out. It's just th... : BouillonCubes
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    They made him look artifical on intent, he's meant to look eerily off. It's quite a deliberate use of unc... : imperator
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      That wasn't stated at any point in the film. In the original Tron, CLU looked exactly like Flynn. : BouillonCubes
      • lol : Dravenport
      • You have no clu. : ErneX
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        I'm just saying it seems like a super deliberate art direction, it's very obviously pushed towards making... : imperator
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          Then why does the actual Flynn (circa 1989) at the very beginning of the movie look identical to CLU? I ... : BouillonCubes
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            It's questionable that this is the best DD could do considering they pulled off some very convincing digi... : jipey
            • I'm sure they could do better with infinite time and less scenes to render but of course no one has that ... : BouillonCubes
          • greenbean.exe : stuka
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        it was an uncanny effect back then, how did they do it : GloriousCow
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          There was no uncanny valley in the first, there were no CG faces. : BouillonCubes
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            http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cReaW4TAE_k/TDrHiCYwdsI/AAAAAAAAEqE/pAIOHfCeHrw/s1600/34+tron+head.jpg : imperator
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              some people look like that : deKaf
              • dreidel dreidel dreidel : Dravenport
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              I demand.....I demand.....Macaroni pictures. : thetangent
              • Haha I loved that : loppsided
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            so were they twins?? : GloriousCow
            • Pretty sure they used the same actor, they've been doubling up people on screen for a loooong time. : one random winner
          • You are now mentally listening to "It Was Acceptable In The 80's". : Marrbe
      • Why would they state such a thing in the film, if indeed it was a deliberate thing? : zakk
    • what about the first scene set in the 80s? : extrahappyturtle
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      No they didn't. I’m really happy with how he turned out. Because I think we were ambitious and : FlamingGimp
      • Whoops, that's a quote from the director, Joseph Kosinski. : FlamingGimp
    • Absolutely incorrect. Why weren't all programs a CG effect then? Why would they do that? Besides, they... : Halen
  • rabble rabble : redfive
  • Wait, wut? : greenbergMD
  • I guess I didn't notice how bad it was because I knew ahead of time that it was CGI, so I sort of unconsc... : tashtego
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    seems like the should have used the facial mocap tech used in avatar. : ssj4megaman
    • ^this :( : one random winner
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      Someone didn't watch the video. The head equipment and techniques look idential to the ones used in avat... : spazzium
      • Actually the Avatar facial rigs had much better control point positioning. For example, they had points r... : stuka
      • Except if you look at any avatar mo-cap video, you can see there is much more and better precision and "d... : ssj4megaman
  • I thought it was pretty good. : dael
  • It was fine. The effects served their purpose quite well. Man, you guys want everything to be absol... : pigvomit
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    There were some uncanny valley moments with the face, but the visual feast of the whole move is the best ... : spazzium
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      It would have been better, and even made the villain more menacing, if the helmet was worn for the majori... : BouillonCubes
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        Do you find it hard to watch old movies because their effects aren't as cutting edge as you wish? : pigvomit
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          No but the practical effects seen in older films aren't as jarring as the uncanny valley face, not for me... : BouillonCubes
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            I can only really agree with you about the face, but not your solution to it. Renzler was already doing ... : spazzium
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              I never said the rest of the effects were dated, it's only the CG face that dates it. : BouillonCubes
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                How does it date it? It's the best use of that technology that I've seen yet. : spazzium
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                  Because the uncanny valley will likely be surpassed within a decade or so. Watching this movie then will... : BouillonCubes
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                    So you're pissed off because this movie will not look awesome in the future? : spazzium
                    • Wait, isn't that the opposite of "already dated?" : Halen
                    • It looks bad now but later I think it will not hold up as well as the original. : BouillonCubes
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                well you kind of did say that, "The movie is already visually dated" : busdriver3030
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                  I've had enough followup posts that it's clear by now what I'm talking about. : BouillonCubes
                  • here, you dropped an "I don't know" : Halen
            • god damn Rinzler was such a dumb character design though >:( : Majuju
      • I thought the whole helmet thing was overused to save money/time. Clu should have been showing his face r : EricZBA
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    http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_leimmo3ZKt1qzpwi0o1_400.jpg o_O : das_runt
    • Ah, the Bridges/Russel hybrid is almost ready. : pigvomit
  • clearly you've never seen TRON in your life : grendel
  • Your post was dated before you finished typing it. : Halen
  • Agree. Disagree, can't comment. : gakera
• best sequel ever. : jayares
• really you don't need to see the movie after that. that has almost all the best shots. : deathofrats
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  I'd love to know what their infrastructure looks like. Just like Pixar, I'm fascinated by the network, p... : RyDogg1
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    I agree, I'd love to look inside their processing farms to see how they do it. I've been told they heavi... : Q-ball
    • Aren't a lot of these companies using Microsoft cloud tech now? : BouillonCubes
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98HvZZHA81M : Godhatesfatpeople
• As I thought, the facial recognition software wasn't that good, it missed some of his emotions on his fac... : Q-ball

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• That's how all phone manufacturers/models are. It's not specific to Android, Google, or Samsung. : foo
• The nexus phones are for developers and people who don't mind living on the bleeding edge. Not day to da... : harold.johnson
• I'm still stuck on 2.1 with a nebulous 'an update to 2.2 is planned' : fletch_
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  I feel bad for my friends who got sucked into the android platform and are now regretting it. I have t... : LoioshDwaggie
  • I have a Nexus One, what exactly can't I do with it? I'm about to jump ship to a corporate iPhone, sav... : MagicWishMonkey
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    your friends are deluding themselves into spending money they don't need to spend. i stayed on my g1 for... : harold.johnson
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      One of them has issues with some games running slow. I'll ask him when he gets into work. I'm fine han... : LoioshDwaggie
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        He should really question his logical facilities if he's upgrading his phone constantly to play crappy li... : harold.johnson
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          Legitimately, phone gaming is getting major and good games are coming out for them. : LoioshDwaggie
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            well, then you get to play the upgrade cycle, same as in pc gaming. : harold.johnson
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              But not so much on the iPhone : snowwolf
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                apple's the console of smart phones, in other words : harold.johnson
                • I was going to say that in my OP, but I decided it would be better not to make an analogy like that on th... : LoioshDwaggie
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                Lol, the iphone 4 was already behind the curve when it was released. What are you talking about? : mlev
                • wha? The iphone 4 has better game support than any phone on the market, also has better graphics on their... : klearlyunseen
      • more expensive than console/pc gaming but otoh, you dont have to deal with lines unless its an iphone. : j0nchan
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        The upgrades will come on the nexus series too. I remember a post on this site recently by a google emplo : terath
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          I thought multitasking only doesn't work on the original iPhone, which is older than the oldest android p... : chrisschutz
          • It doesn't work on anything older than the 3GS. Apple was selling the 3G, which is not multitasking capa... : afty
      • "The nice thing about the iPhone system is that the upgrades come no matter how old the hardware is." ... : sonicstorm
  • I still have an original droid and am running gingerbread now. so, if you aren't scared to do some playi... : FirmButtstone
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    I've said it before and it's still true. This is the one that that will probably always deter me from bu... : spazzium
    • you mean 1 year cycle : HisKillSkill
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      I've had my N1 for a year. To suggest that it won't be a reasonable phone for me to continue to use throu... : Cheeziologist
      • i would still be on my g1 if the hardware hadn't started going tits up (buttons stopped working unless i ... : harold.johnson
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      This logic just makes no sense. If you're reasonably happy with am old iPhone then why wouldn't you be ha... : derelict515
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        I'm saying their platform would move quicker than the iPhone. So its my belief, perhaps incorrectly, tha... : spazzium
        • But you're missing out on those accelerated features just as much by not being on the platform. If you're... : derelict515
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      the evo is still the best android phone available IMO. hardware hasnt changed much within the past 6 mont... : maulla
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        The Incredible is also great, it's basically an Evo with smaller screen. : datoo
        • The Aria is also great, it's basically an Incredible with a smaller screen. : Wisp!
  • I'm still happy with my Android 2.2 Droid Incredible. It's pretty vanilla and that's why I like it! Doe... : xylopagus
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  Lol. Everyone's on 2.2 or worse but one phone. You'll be okay. : Agrona
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    Samsung Galaxy's are on 2.1. =( : JohnnyRey
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      Samsung fucked up there. They won't push out 2.2 until they can fix the GPS problem, which is a hardware... : foo
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        The guys at Sprint assured me that their Samsung Epics had no GPS issue. Then I asked them to prove it. ... : MPLStagger
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          It's not even a matter of being accurate, it's a matter of flat out not working 80% of the time. You don... : foo
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            i've gotten a lock 100% of the time on my Captivate. might take like 30 seconds, but it works. people nee... : g0nk
            • Yeah, I find its OK. Few problems I had were solved by a restart. The new 2.2.1 /2.3 firmware is meant to... : g3dHorse
          • I always get a lock with my Epic.. its just a bit inaccurate at times. : Reeves
      • given samsungs track record, they aren't going to do jack shit : moshman
      • This is mainly a US issue, I think. I have a Galaxy in the UK which came shipped with 2.2 a few weeks ago... : g3dHorse
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        I've rooted my phone and the gps works just fine, hardware issue? : Xencer
        • Newer hardware revisions are fine, older ones aren't : foo
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      Some networks in the UK have pushed 2.2 on them so blame might lay with the operators : chazums
      • ^ Yeah as stated above mine came with 2.2 shipped. : g3dHorse
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      hope emerges! http://twitter.com/Samsungtweets/status/21619272165883905 : Arctic Fox
      • hahaha http://twitter.com/PeaceLoveRKOx3/status/22414670925144065 The response was "@PeaceLoveRKOx3 Hi... : g3dHorse
• The Nexus S didn't even come with most of the language packs present in the SDK. I bought it for a frien... : DrWaffles
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  I still don't see the benefit of ANY smart phone from ANY company at this point. To spend money on a d... : ShadowRam
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    You justify all of that because of the rape fees in Canada. Don't blame that on the technology these devi... : pancake humper
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      Rape Fee's aside, I'm all for the tech in the devices, but how can anyone justify a $500 piece of eq... : ShadowRam
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        whoever pays $500 for a smartphone is not so smart. The carriers will subsidize them down to $129.99 n... : redfive
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          I spent $500 on my phone so I could save $20/month on my bill and not be bound by a contract. Whoever ... : MagicWishMonkey
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            Case in point: I'm about to dump T-Mobile and start using an iPhone provided by my employer, if I had opt... : MagicWishMonkey
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              but this is because you are dumping your carrier. I'm with Rogers here in Ontario and would never consid... : redfive
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                Even if I stuck with T-Mobile for 2 years it would still be more cost effective to buy my own phone, $20/... : MagicWishMonkey
                • Yeah, in the UK I found it cheaper to get a contract plus the free phone, though like you I don't like be... : g3dHorse
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                  they have no unlimited plans on Rogers that I can see. 2GB is the max for $80 Blackberries save huge ... : redfive
                  • I only get 500 minutes of talk time with my plan, which wouldn't be enough for some people but it's fine ... : MagicWishMonkey
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                    They save huge on data because they can't do everything an iPhone or an Android phone can. : Rice-Rocketeer
                    • what? You should learn about what you're talking about prior to posting. They compress data like a moth... : redfive
                • IM thinking of switching to tmobile for this specific reason. Also, apparently if you call them and have... : nukewinter
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          True, most don't go out and buy the phone outright. But your usually signed up for a 3-year contract to g... : ShadowRam
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            they're only a pain in the ass if you don't know how to use them. They do everything the iPhone does. O... : redfive
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              no, they are a PITA. and they don't come close to doing what other smartphones can do. : JohnnyRey
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                explain? Just because you don't know how to use it doesn't make it a PITA. What exactly can it not do t... : redfive
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                  I know how to use it. I had one. And I support them on a daily basis. Without the app market, all the... : JohnnyRey
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                    I'm not discounting the apps at all. In fact it's the only thing that the iPhone has going for them that... : redfive
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                      Isn't the Blackberry web browser kind of crappy compared to Android and iPhone? : MagicWishMonkey
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                        it was for sure. I have a leaked copy of OS6 for my 9780 and it's fine. My old Bold was on 5.0 and it w... : redfive
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                          I figured they would catch up sooner or later. 99% of the time when I'm on my phone I'm using the brow... : MagicWishMonkey
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                            This. Apps can be great, though handheld-tied apps seem bizarre in the age of the internet - especially ... : g3dHorse
                            • I love the idea of shackchatty and shackdroid but I never use them, it doesn't feel like the shack when y... : MagicWishMonkey
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                      its user error most of the time =( they are good phones, just not near the functionality of the iphone... : JohnnyRey
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                        I'm arguing that out of the box they are the same with the nod to Blackberry for security and user interf... : redfive
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                          your kidding with the e-mail, right? : JohnnyRey
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                            no? It's all done via the phone. I log on to their BIS and set it up. Unless you're talking the enterp... : redfive
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                              Have you set up a BIS server? its a fucking nightmare, and it is atrocious. : JohnnyRey
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                                I'm assuming you mean BES and it's easy as long as you have set the correct permissions. Install as the ... : redfive
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                                  I'm glad you like that abortion of a company and a phone. But 99% of tech savvy people hate it. So, that ... : JohnnyRey
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                                    I like it because it does what I want it to do for me. Deliver me emails and make phone calls all the wh... : redfive
                                    • like this http://hackaday.com/2010/10/26/security-flaw-bypasses-iphone-lock-screen/ That's fucking... : redfive
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                                      thats cool, but I'm curious, have you even used an iphone/android phone at length? I highly doubt you hav... : JohnnyRey
                                      • I use the iPhone all the time. Android I haven't had too much exposure on but I've still used it. I... : redfive
      • The market is fast-paced but I don't understand how that would render a phone "useless". You could say th... : jipey
      • Part of it is the cliche until you have it, you don't realise how much you missed. As for prices, yeah... : g3dHorse
      • I kept my iphoen for two years and I love my Nexus One. And my Nexus One is OSS, I could load my own soft... : daVinci1980
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        How exactly does my smartphone become useless in < 1 year? : derelict515
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          Because another one will be released that will be slightly better. Don't you know anything? : MagicWishMonkey
          • God this phone is useless now! I might as well just throw the piece of shit in the trash and get back on ... : derelict515
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          rtd in the op seems to feel pretty ripped off : ShadowRam
          • First let's generalize one person's silly rants about a well known deficiency of his chosen platform whic... : derelict515
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    shacknews on toilet : Chandler55
    • This. Period. : passingstranger
  • Whatever old guy, I've been dying for truly useful smart phones for years, they're finally coming round, ... : Creepin_Jeezus
  • I like looking up chicks in the club on facebook. It's pretty great. : MPLStagger
  • tethering : flasher 907
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    They're really fucking amazing. The ability to get information or contact people pretty much anytime or ... : chazums
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      My 'simple' phone can take pictures/videos, I can store MP3's on it, and listen to them, I can store m... : ShadowRam
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        $40/month no contract http://www2.windmobile.ca/en/Pages/boxingdaysale.aspx Some of the phones there ... : factor27
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          I don't think Wind-mobile is available in the KW area yet. As to the list of things there. Email? no ... : ShadowRam
          • No need for email? I'm actually jealous that you don't have to worry about emails all the time when you a... : g3dHorse
      • I don't spend near that, the G1 was £30/month and about £100 up front I think. I can tweet, facebo... : chazums
  • I used to feel this way. Then I got a Droid. Holy crap I could never go back to a regular cell phone ev... : FormerHPB
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    the fact that you say that probably means you've never tried using one of these amazing devices in your d... : OrkO
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      This I will admit, I have not used one in a day to day life. But that is because, like I stated I can't s... : ShadowRam
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        I basically have the entirety of humanity's combined knowledge of the universe at my fingertips wherever ... : derelict515
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          lol... no guess not : ShadowRam
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            If someone told you that you could have a tricorder for 200 dollars plus like 30 extra bucks a month woul... : chrisschutz
            • Android is literally a tricorder: http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Science/Entertainment/Tricorder-Andro... : terath
        • That basically covers it! : Yanks
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    You also don't see the benefit of stephen hawking so i think the rest of us will ignore you as usual. : twifosp
    • Please do Twifosp. Your posts never bring a shed of usefulness anyway. : ShadowRam
    • Ooh, is there a link I can laugh at? : Herman Toothrot
  • I actually have a decent-ish plan right now. It is definitely not as good as the insanely awesome $35/mon... : Rice-Rocketeer
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  My Vibrant is still on 2.1, so don't get too down on your position. : passingstranger
  • Yeah no kidding... my Captivate is finally running 2.2 just because I was tired of waiting for the offici... : c_man_tmt
• Patience, it'll get here shortly. At the rate Android phones come out anything you buy is bettered in ab... : chazums
• that's a pretty entitled post RTD. 1) as for gingerbread, I'm willing to bed we'll still get it way be... : Cheeziologist
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  US/Canada shackers: is buying the phone up front the norm then? (re. "forget about your $500 purchase.) ... : g3dHorse
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    in the US, verizon, sprint and at&t want you to buy on a 2 year contract. tmobile still lets you buy on ... : harold.johnson
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      hmm interesting. I worked out it was cheaper to just get the contract, rather than buy the phone outright... : g3dHorse
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        tmobile knocks $20 a month off the monthly cost if you buy the phone outright. over 2 years, thats $480,... : harold.johnson
        • Yeah any sort of educated customer would go for t-mobile out-of-contract : kabex
  • i get screwed into a 3 year contract because the difference between the price of the phone i bought 2 yea... : dantastic
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  This has been my beef with the Android platform for some time now. The Android roll out schedule of whate... : rosewood
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    Why do you have to have the absolute top of the line phone at all times? Does your phone suddenly start s... : MagicWishMonkey
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      he's talking about Android, not the hardware. most upgrades to the OS seem to be at the mercy of the man... : mikecyb
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        That's true, I guess I'm not a hardcore enough phone user to get up in arms about it. I think I'm runn... : MagicWishMonkey
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          yeah I dunno how I would feel about it. you have the phone that is probably the easiest to upgrade thoug... : mikecyb
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            It's just weird because upgrading your OS is a completely new phenomenon, not sure why people feel entitl... : MagicWishMonkey
            • it's new for phones but smartphones these days are basically hand-held PCs with some limitations. I don'... : mikecyb
            • these phones are advertised as android phones. google goes around publicizing the latest android releases... : j0nchan
            • It's a crap shoot whether or not the carrier or the phone will support new updates, though. : jingletard
          • This is certainly true, as a programmer who likes to live on the edge of technology I'm always looking fo... : g3dHorse
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            When I considered android, I only considered the nexus series for this reason. I'm not sure what to thin... : terath
            • I wonder whether Google puts much pressure on their partners to get the phones updated? Everyone involved... : g3dHorse
      • The problem is that Android releases too many updates, they should update it once a year. It's been o... : kabex
    • girls aren't so impressed by it? An important factor for rosewood, I am sure. : g3dHorse
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      What mike said is correct about the upgrades and all of that. But I'm also frustrated with the hardware s... : rosewood
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        I see what you're saying, I admit I would have preferred a phone with a hardware keyboard, but that wasn'... : MagicWishMonkey
        • Also - the camera on my N1 is super shitty. : MagicWishMonkey
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          The irony is that according to some of these requirements, the iphone is not perfect either. So if I'm re... : terath
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            IMO the iPhone is quite a bit more polished than the Android (in its current state) and the touchscreen c... : MagicWishMonkey
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              the responsiveness of the iphone's touchscreen compared to every android phone I have tried is like night... : mikecyb
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                I agree, it wouldn't be as big of a problem if I had a keyboard on this thing. I really hate typing on it... : MagicWishMonkey
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                  Thats odd, is this a hardware thing? I just recently got a nexus s and the touch screen is exactly like m... : terath
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                    Yea, it's weird. It wigs out a lot, especially if I'm accidentally touching the screen while holding it a... : MagicWishMonkey
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                      Hmm, maybe it's a software thing then. :/ I guess I'm spoiled because I got a smartphone when android hi... : terath
                      • I used an iPhone for 2.5 years before getting my N1, so the transition was pretty noticeable. After a ... : MagicWishMonkey
              • For awhile I felt this way, but I have been using an HTC Desire HD for a few weeks now and it feels prett... : korruptedone
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          Yeah, I agree with this. I'm happy with the platform, and banking on it improving. : g3dHorse
          • I think it's a worthy competitor to the iPhone and it's awesome that we finally have some competition in ... : MagicWishMonkey
      • you say not having a hardware keyboard on the evo like its a bad thing. they release different phones bas... : maulla
    • If it's an iPhone, it actually does because they release an update that breaks your phone. : Herman Toothrot
  • how is this just specific to the android platform? : dantastic
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  welcome to cell phones : dantastic
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    THIS ONE COST $500! The least Google could do with their hallowed "Google Phone", sold by Google, would b... : retarded talking dinosaur
    • Wow. Relax. The update is coming. I'm not sure why having the latest OS the second it comes out is such a... : terath
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      http://www.technize.com/android-2-3-gingerbread-update-for-nexus-one/ quit your bitching : JohnnyRey
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        i'm still waiting on the upgrade to 2.2 on my moto milestone that's expected in Q1 2011 and this guy is b... : dantastic
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          Except he bought his phone out-of-contract direct from google in order to get updates as fast as possible... : kabex
          • the update is coming in like a week. He has no reason to bitch. : JohnnyRey
    • most smart phones cost around that without contract. att.com is telling me a 16gb iphone 4 is 199 WITH... : dantastic
    • Nexus one user right here. I have no clue what your upset about. We are going to get the 2.3 update soon.... : furiouschuck
• Hell, it took forever for the 2.2 update to come to my N1. I really like the phone but I think it's lame ... : get_navi
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  Or, you know, you could just buy an iPhone. : Wikus Van De Merwe
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    Does Apple keep updating all of its old iPhones when a new version comes out? : zipr
    • No. : sonicstorm
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      nexus one came out like 10 months ago, the iphone 3g is over 2 years old : Chandler55
      • apple comes out with a new phone like every year you know. : JohnnyRey
      • I still don't understand the complaint. 2.3 is coming out for the nexus one. Is delaying release for prop... : terath
    • they don't support the original one but that's over four years old now and it's really not super usable c... : mikecyb
    • Yes, but the updates make the old phones run like shit and you can't play any of the new apps unless you'... : Herman Toothrot
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  lol don't even complain. the galaxy S which is supposed to have awesome hardware is permanently crippled ... : Downforce
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    Pretty sure the hardware in N1 is not as good as the galaxy S, as the new Nexus S uses the same processor... : g3dHorse
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      Yes, in the US. I am sure verizon is really mucking things up, this is the one release that has Bing feat... : Downforce
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        Google provides a vanilla source with some supplied drivers. Manufacturers then need to add drivers speci... : terath
        • Yeah, and with the five versions of the SGS in the US each carrier is demanding their own tweaks, e.g. on... : g3dHorse
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    My Nexus S gets 1729. The Galaxy S has better hardware than the n1. : mroizo40
    • Also the nexus S came out on dec 16, which makes it two weeks ago, not a month. : mroizo40
  • Quadrant is a horrible benchmark. : GreatGooglyMoogly
  • If you want super speed on the Galaxy S you can put a kernel running the ext4 filesystem on there I belie... : Arctic Fox
  • Quadrant scores are not perfect. : thecatinthehat
• I'm perfectly happy with my Nexus One. We should be getting 2.3 before the month is over. : herradura99
• they're probably going to start pushing the n1 update in a couple weeks or so. no biggie. download the ... : wvuong
• My HTC Hero is officially stuck at 2.1. Forever. (Though thanks to some peeps here, I upgraded to 2.2 vi... : zipr
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  any other iphone owners enjoy this thread??? : [fry]
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    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Portable-Audio/Clock-Radios/abcat0206003.c?id=abcat0206003 : bamb
    • hahahha : nukewinter
  • Yes except at some point we will all probably have to bite the bullet and get a fucking Android phone jus... : stuka
  • I would like to take this post to say hi to virus, who loves how I post in every thread where Android use... : BeerHunter
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    Probably not any 3G owners. : Deathlove
    • sup : derelict515
    • Because a phone that came out 2.5 years ago is still getting firmware updates, even if it's not the lates... : BlackCat9
  • I think it's funny any time someone bitches about companies having a product cycle. : walker270
  • is it ok if I bookmark this for any future threads where anyone complains about their Mac/iPhone? : Hemtroll
  • laughing all the way fry...laughing : m0rfus
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    It looks like fragmentation to me. It's a total mess and it seems like each person here has a different s... : jingletard
    • Well, maybe not fragmentation but I don't understand Googles philosophy on relying on the planets to alig... : jingletard
  • You know what word I love? Schadenfreude. : BlackCat9
  • what a stupid fucking post fry : kill9
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  Can't you guys just put on a custom rom? My phone (ZTE Blade) was 2.1, is now 2.2, and it was completely ... : Tchest
  • too many of the people here are afraid of doing it. that or the ones the do, for the most part, don't ha... : harold.johnson
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  This situation highlights what Google has gotten wrong and what Apple has gotten right. I like both platf... : funnynamehere
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    That having been said, Apple is far from perfect. The best of both worlds is a combination of the two. Cl... : funnynamehere
    • Google had the right idea but then realized the monster to market and sell that device is impossible. Th... : redfive
• My Nexus One literally exploded in my hand the day the Nexus S came out, outrageous! : jra101
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  New iterative firmware updates do not suddenly cause your phone to stop working. They do not make it any : ConfusedUs
  • It's also only been two weeks since the nexus s, not a month : mroizo40
• Why do you buy without a contract? Sheesh. : sukabljat
• Trust me, Gingerbread (2.3) is half-baked and you don't want it on your N1 yet. I ran an N1 for a year... : Zero|DPX
• Buddy of mine at work got a Nexus S, I thought it was going to be the iPhone 4 killer, but its not. And ... : jimmy-buffett

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  I'm left again wondering why all the shows I enjoy get canceled. SGU, this, etc. Either my taste is count... : Syixxs
  • making room to air more wrestling : dantastic
  • You have awful taste, SyFy has awful times for shows, and hates shows that are good. Examples: Farscap... : YerMothah
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    same. I'm still amazed that Archer and Chuck are still barely hanging on. I feel like I curse whatever ... : proclone1
    • how is Archer barely hanging on? new season hasnt even started yet! : hirez
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    I for one thought caprica was really bad. I liked the concepts, but it seemed the way the story was being... : Wheatloaf
    • It starts off meh as you describe but episodes 12 on have a very different tone and are more heavy on the... : BouillonCubes
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    High budget shows and syfy apparently has more interest in producing junk shows that have a better dollar... : BouillonCubes
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      It is! Blood & Chrome is being filmed as a 2 hour pilot http://www.wired.com/underwire/2010/10/battlestar... : transmetal
      • Awesome! : BouillonCubes
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        'virtual sets' makes me nervous : Thomas Hace
        • Same here :( : BouillonCubes
        • I think its worked fairly well on Sanctuary. : pimpium
• I saw that on the tvguide I use - sad panda that SyFy is burning through Caprica, as well as cancelling S... : seven
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  FU "SYFY". I'll never watch that network again. go show all the wrestling & ghost hunters you want. : hirez
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    You'll be back! They always come back. : pimpium
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      Why go back? They had pretty much every show worried about cancellation this year. : Jonathan
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        I hate the network but i still like other stuff like Eureka and W13 and Sanctuary. : pimpium
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          Eureka's already been picked up for season five but I doubt it will get a sixth season. Sanctuary is stil... : Jonathan
          • What i read is Sanc is doing well in its slot after wrestling and why they didnt move it. Shitty wrestlin... : pimpium
    • nope. I'm done. SGU cancellation was the last straw. I removed it from my channel guide. : hirez
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    Son is there some junior exec prick fresh out of Syracuse with a media degree in a NYC high-rise saying a... : rosewood
    • Son=So !=? Fuck u iPad : rosewood
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  after Caprica ends, will there be any serious sci-fi shows on TV? : DonkeyPopsicle
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    that's what I wanna know too. Space ships and lasers and the future are rad - why is there so little o... : seven
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      It really pisses me off that with the end of SGU, there's essentially no new space sci-fi on TV. Someday ... : thetangent
      • I thought SG:U was really picking up end of first season moving in to second - plot threads were being cr... : seven
  • Outcasts is supposed to be on BBC at the end of the year. : pimpium
  • I think Outcasts is about it. I'm planning to check out Warehouse 13 for some sci-fi. My apologies in adv... : Syixxs
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    Another BSG spin-off called Blood & Chrome about Bill Adama during the first Cylon war is in the works. I... : beanman101283
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      ^^ The flashback to this in the 2004 series was better than the whole of Caprica. : Bamtan
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        theres just no way to make edward james olmos look young : thewindcriesmary
        • Bondo, angle grinder, and primer. : Merconium
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      http://www.wired.com/underwire/2010/10/battlestar-blood-chrome/ ...the show would employ virtual sets : waxthirteen
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        Wow that sounds like a disaster. : Wisp!
        • Seriously. With a MASSIVE budget Lucas couldn't really make this work. I fail to see a TV budget pulling ... : BeowolfSchaefer
        • Agreed, I'm not too optimistic about that. : The Grolar Bear
  • There's "V", and there's "Eureka" (though I guess that's not really serious is it?). Honestly, it seem... : thetangent
  • I'm replacing SyFy with BBCAmerica & their SciFi Saturdays: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/12/15/b... : hirez
  • Doctor Who if you get BBC and it's awesome! : Sumantro
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  I already watched them and it amped up better than I expected yet they still capped it off well. Overall... : BouillonCubes
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    I know they didn't plan the season finale as the series finale, but I think it serves that purpose really : transmetal
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      Really? I thought they got everyone back to shoot a special ending. If that's the original then it's ev... : BouillonCubes
      • Its original. It was done shooting a long time before. Hell, they thought they would get a second season ... : pimpium
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  They changed their name but they still can't keep a good show. I don't much care for caprica, but SG:U i... : dnagenome
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    They consistently fuck their shows the same way. Farscape was fucked by constantly moving its day and tim... : pimpium
    • Ya, I remember, then they started that SciFriday, picked up SG-1 when Showtime was gonna can it. Spent s... : dnagenome
• Oh good, the episode that started an hour ago didn't get picked up by my DVR as a new episode, but the re... : Gnowknayme
• I think the problem is every time they have a decent idea they dilute it down trying to make it appeal to... : BeowolfSchaefer
• Maybe Syfy needs to change....online only? 10$ a month for viewing? I dunno. Caprica was very interesting... : nubitup

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  I don't play my PS3 much, but I still think it's the sexiest of the consoles. I would love to use it more... : MagicWishMonkey
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    It is an amazing media box. Blu Ray, Netflix, Hulu+, the only thing it is really missing is playing back ... : Serpico74
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      I wish it or the 360 would support Amazon VOD. :/ : ThomW
      • http://www.playon.tv/content-channels?loc=pl1 : Slowtreme
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      I still use my 360 for Netflix, out of habit. I need to update my PS3 and check out 1080p streaming, it w... : MagicWishMonkey
      • I use ps3 media server to both my ps3 upstairs and my xbox downstairs. : legsbrogan
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      360 Netflix is HD but PS3 Netflix is not, correct? : Gorkgork
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        Nope. PS3 netflix is the first to get 5.1 surround and 1080p video for some content. : Prozium
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          No kidding. I have 5:1 speakers. Is there a link to the content? : Gorkgork
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            Nope. Netflix isn't listing 5.1 capable content separately. Check engadget for a review. I think they lis... : Prozium
            • Considering all my online gaming is on Steam, this is now the perfect reason to cancel my XBL account. : Gorkgork
      • They switched off disc based a couple months ago. : TShandy
    • For this reason I cannot see the point for getting a replacement like XBMC on it. It already does all tha... : LoioshDwaggie
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    I've always used my PS3 more than my 360 : uglysad
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      The controller kind of sucks IMO (personal preference) : MagicWishMonkey
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        That's actually why I use it more. I prefer the PS3 controller because I've been playing on the same basi... : uglysad
        • I always buy PC game pads that are roughly PS-pad shaped. I don't like the 360 pad. I actually preferred ... : Mr. Goodwrench
  • I use my PS3 all the time as DLNA client not so much for games though. : giant boy detective
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  The media center stuff is going to be insane. The rate these guys are going (cfw is already packed) its g... : pancake humper
  • There is almost no reason for a custom firmware though. The keys are public to sign whatever to just lau... : jaxpunk
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  Might be time to buy a PS3! : YerMothah
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    The moment they have a working XBMC port I'm enroute. : tboomer2
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      As am I :( : spazzium
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        what makes XBMC better than the built-in functionality of the PS3? : RikiTiki2
        • It supports every media and it has a nice interface. It also scrapes all the info for your movies, tv sho... : razlebol
        • Codec support and customizability. : BouillonCubes
• I still have my original xbox, running xbmc. So damned good. : seven
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  I like how they say that they did this in response to Sony removing the OtherOS option. lol : pyide
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    fail overflow is antipiracy, so i don't see what the lol about it is : harold.johnson
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      That Sony removed it in the first place. It wasn't hurting anything or anyone but they removed a feature ... : pyide
      • Ah, okay. I made an asumption, my apologies! : harold.johnson
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  PS3 Media server is awesome already, free and just works, what am I missing here? was XMBC that much bett... : oldschoolbob-o
  • no transcoding : pancake humper
  • Yes. It natively played content without the need for transcoding. Also had numerous options to tweak vide... : Prozium
  • ps3 media center is ok, but transcoding always sucks. My ps3 is connected through wifi and has trouble tr... : klearlyunseen
  • PS3 MS is mediocre at best. The requirement of a beefy PC to transcode many of the formats brings it dow... : Halen
  • Transcoding stinks :( : BouillonCubes
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  No. This stuff is mostly for piracy as far as I'm concerned. The 360 has been rooted too (it has been for... : jingletard
  • The big deal here is that since the private key has been exposed, you can mod and re-sign original conten... : rmjackson
  • Connect to Live with any jtagged 360 and it will not be running homebrew again. The XBox 360 private key ... : Endymion_
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  does this mean I can run anything without installing a mod or doing some twilight princess buffer overflo... : Chandler55
  • yes : pancake humper
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  How about just building a HTPC... It will cost you a little more but you will be able to do a lot more on... : razlebol
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    Htpc doesn't play valkyria chronicles :( : roushimsx
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      I have 0 interest in buying online games on the ps3 : razlebol
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        lol. : roushimsx
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          Yeah... That's the reason why I suggested that. It would be stupid not playing the Uncharted serie. N... : razlebol
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            I don't recall Uncharted having multiplayer, and no one buys Uncharted 2 for the multiplayer, just like n... : roushimsx
            • Shining Force is one of my favorite games of all time but I couldn't get into Valkyria Chronicles at all.... : razlebol
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              yeah if I got a ps3 it'd be to play SP games. : boomstickah
              • wait I have a ps3, in a closet in 1000 pieces. So easy to forget. I actually was actively fixing it. doh : boomstickah
              • That's pretty much all I play, too. Though I did dabble in BLOPS multiplayer. that shit is really damn fu... : roushimsx
            • I wanted to like it, but strategy games make me stupid :( : Entity
  • to loud for a htpc : matthaeus
  • actually Id argue you can do a lot more with a modded ps3, as it can play ps3 games and bluray. : klearlyunseen
  • A little more? I bought a 1080p capable HTPC for $220 and it's the size of a book. : Halen
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  It will be awesome when someone hacks in backwards compatibility. : harvord
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    didn't they remove the hardware that did the backwards compat? so any efforts at that would be a software... : RikiTiki2
    • You are correct sir! I am betting the people working on these hacks will be able to do what Sony was unab... : harvord
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    Yea, that's not possible. The hardware isnt there and there's no way anyone is going to write a proper gp... : roushimsx
    • interesting, why not? : indosauros
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      Why would it be impossible? I know they removed the hardware but I bet someone will figure out a way to s... : harvord
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        Emulation is very expensive compared to the real deal, it's possible the PS3 isn't powerful enough to emu... : Zek
        • if you can even figure out how to program the thing to pretend it's something else : RikiTiki2
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          Didn't the second iteration (after removing hardware emu) still contain a software emu? So they've done ... : indosauros
          • I mean I see a small stretch, but not "impossible, ever." stretch : indosauros
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            Nope. The first batch had the EE and GS chips from the PS2. The "software" BC models still had the GS chi... : Prozium
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              ah, so they'd have to write an emulator for both missing EE and GS chips : indosauros
              • I was always bummed that Sony didn't go the extra mile to emulate the GS, because not only would that ena... : roushimsx
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        The first PS3's had hardware emulation, the second run had software emulation. : LankyJon
        • There was never a 100% software solution. : Frank_Mackey
        • Sweet, let me know when you get that emulator working! : roushimsx
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        Well, look at it from a practical point of view: PCSX2 has been in development for over 8 years and st... : roushimsx
        • i like when you lay down knowledge about emulators for us : RikiTiki2
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      There's already a Dreamcast emulator in the works. I wouldn't say never. : burning eye
      • yea, it's a portjob of NullDC. What a big surprise. It runs like crap and the compatibility isn't good. P... : roushimsx
  • That poses this question - isn't the PS3 difficult to program for? If that is indeed the case and dev st... : jingletard
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  if you hack it to turn it into a media centre, will you still be able to connect to PSN to update the blu... : dantastic
  • the PS3 already does a lot of media center stuff anyway : RikiTiki2
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  I have no desire to pirate PS3 games...but man would I love it if someone built a good emulator to run ol... : Vincent Grayson
  • The thought of building an HTPC for MAME games has certainly occurred to me. I wonder if a guy could make... : Entity
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    NES: https://code.google.com/p/fceu-ps3/ SNES: https://code.google.com/p/snes9x-ps3/ SDLMAME (possibly ... : roushimsx
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      Oh neat, they actually improved the core in Genesis Plus and made it more compatible/better. Big up to th... : roushimsx
      • duurrr, i'm retarded. The PS3 port of it is on a page I don't totally feel warm and fuzzy linking. But he... : roushimsx
• when there's a XBMC for it, I'll get one for sure : umegastar