Weekend Discussion

Later tonight, I'm jumping on a plane and leaving sunny, Southern California and heading back to Toronto. The trip--although short--was fantastic. It's always great to go to work at an office and keep home feeling like it's home.

Check out Weekend Confirmed Live from Kevin Smith's SModCastle with hosts Garnett and Jeff along with special guests Geoff Keighley, Billy Berghammer, Patrick Klepek, and Christian Spicer. Oh, and I'm there too! It really was a fantastic show that could only have been better if Brian was able to talk and if Garnett remembered to introduce and/or thank me during the show. Seriously, I was sitting right there!

Time to bust out the scarf and shovel some snow, until then... here's what we're all going to be playing this weekend.

  • Alice O'Connor: I have no particular plans regarding video games this weekend.
  • Garnett Lee: I'm setting my sights on finishing Red Dead Redemption this weekend. I'll also be booting up several of the contenders in our Best of 2010 Awards for a little refresher and who knows, I may play a little more with my Worgen warrior in Cataclysm.
  • Brian Leahy: World of Warcraft: Cataclysm, NFS: Hot Pursuit, StarCraft 2, BF:BC2 Vietnam, and maybe trying to finish Assassin's Creed 2.
  • Xav de Matos: I'll be exploring Los Angeles until I fly out tonight. If I'm awake on the flight home I'll probably play some Chrono Trigger on my DS or any number of the fantastic Humble Indie Bundle #2 titles I purchased earlier this week.
  • Jeff Mattas: Little bit of DJ Hero 2, some more Epic Mickey, and an extended preview build of SuperGiant Games upcoming action-RPG, Bastion.
  • Ozzie Mejia: Christmas shopping's all done, so this is a good weekend to finish Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood. Also have a lot of Rock Band 3 DLC to catch up with, including the Billy Joel pack.

Xav de Matos was previously a games journalist creating content at Shacknews.

From The Chatty
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    December 18, 2010 8:01 AM

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      December 18, 2010 8:01 AM

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      December 18, 2010 8:01 AM

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      December 18, 2010 8:03 AM

      I smell mod favoritism!

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        December 18, 2010 8:25 AM

        Hey guys! Look! Trolls do have tears!

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          December 18, 2010 8:39 AM

          Are you crying? I'm sorry. Truly anhero.

          We'll discuss what you are talking about later.

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      December 18, 2010 8:04 AM

      hahaha ramasule got owned

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      December 18, 2010 8:07 AM

      Thats.. thats not really fair :(
      I sat here for an hour waiting refreshing, thats it ... something inside.... stirring... the demon.... rising.....
      must.. resi. resi.... RESIST.... GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

      RAMASULE IS COMING BACK TO FOO1 EVERYTHING IN WILDERNESS WILL BE GRIEFED.

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        December 18, 2010 8:08 AM

        *goes to closet, fetches banhammer, places beside chair*

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          December 18, 2010 8:11 AM

          Hey, anything in wilderness was full on pvp I thought?

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      December 18, 2010 8:07 AM

      Watch Notch coding: http://mojang.com/live/

      He's making a game for the 48 hour game competition, Ludum Dare 19. Has nothing to do with Minecraft (as far as we know).

      It's interesting though, he's got a bit of a (fake) 3D world, with lighting and stuff.

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        December 18, 2010 8:10 AM

        Can we send him live messages to get back to the mother fucking task at hand.

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        December 18, 2010 8:11 AM

        Minecraft is shit. Stop being poor and play a real game.
        Minecraft is shit. Stop being poor and play a real game.
        Minecraft is shit. Stop being poor and play a real game.
        Minecraft is shit. Stop being poor and play a real game.
        Minecraft is shit. Stop being poor and play a real game.
        Minecraft is shit. Stop being poor and play a real game.
        Minecraft is shit. Stop being poor and play a real game.
        Minecraft is shit. Stop being poor and play a real game.
        Minecraft is shit. Stop being poor and play a real game.
        Minecraft is shit. Stop being poor and play a real game.
        Minecraft is shit. Stop being poor and play a real game.
        Minecraft is shit. Stop being poor and play a real game.

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        December 18, 2010 8:11 AM

        Also he posted this last night (his morning): Discovery. The Daft Punk album? The TV channel? Finding lost keys? So many possibilities! Totally going with a dungeon crawl, though.

        I interpret that last line to mean he's going to play some Minecraft, and I figure he's playtesting a patch. Maybe beta patch is done.

        Since I have a bad habit of speculating on things I can't control (seriously, I do it in real life), I wonder if the Minecraft beta patch is done? Otherwise how does he have time to do LD19?

        I'll just hold my breath until Monday.

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        December 18, 2010 9:14 AM

        He's quite the artist...

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          December 18, 2010 9:40 AM

          He's created a 'world' with grass, water, trees, and he's running around in it.

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            December 18, 2010 3:42 PM

            Damn he's made a lot of progress.

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        December 18, 2010 3:48 PM

        I can't stop watching him for some reason.... it's kind of fascinating.

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          December 18, 2010 3:50 PM

          And you can even run around in an early version of the game here: http://mojang.com/notch/ld19/

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          December 18, 2010 3:54 PM

          Yeah. I wish I understood programming.

          I wonder if anyone can see it clear enough to tell how good (or bad) of a programmer he is. Self-taught, so maybe does a lot of things in a way that is harder than necessary, or whatever.

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            December 18, 2010 4:02 PM

            Yeah, it's almost impossible to see the actual code I think. At one time he zoomed in for people to see but I think it was just slowing him down. He's going to release the code with the game though.

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        December 18, 2010 10:38 PM

        He needs a MFC coding show

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        December 19, 2010 5:05 AM

        Not live, though.

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      December 18, 2010 8:08 AM

      The worst part is no one will see how I pawned eric :(

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      December 18, 2010 8:18 AM

      Wish more shackers would visit foo1. Troz and I (and Crabs and EricZBA) built this awesome minecart system.. but nobody is around to use it.

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        December 18, 2010 8:19 AM

        There was 7 people on last night Maddog, what are you talking about People are just playing WoW and finishing their finals. They'll be back.

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        December 18, 2010 8:20 AM

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        December 18, 2010 8:33 AM

        Wish more shackers would just go back to mercfox1 and build since thats what they are doing on foo1 anyways.

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          December 18, 2010 8:45 AM

          wish more shackers would just go to m0rfus' server and kill each other since that's what they are doing on foo1 anyways.

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            December 18, 2010 9:01 AM

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            December 18, 2010 9:48 AM

            When is the last time someone got pked on foo1.
            I'm just saying foo1 is full of dupe, and whiners asking for it to be daytime so the monsters dont spawn.
            Oh wait here we go.
            Wish more shackers would just go to shadowdanes and play PVE.

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              December 18, 2010 10:11 AM

              *sigh* Hyperbole much? The situation you talk about was a once-off, and you overreacted to a 'Vivid abuses his mod powers' joke. Cry more.

              We'll run the server however the fuck we like. We're doing this in our own spare time, for no gain. The last thing we need is to continually have to fend off flak like this.

              You don't like it, go somewhere else.

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                December 18, 2010 10:39 AM

                I guess all I'm trying to say its its sadening to see the mercfox1 server abandoned only to have people building stuff on foo1.
                I'm not complaining how you run the server, infact I've said it before and I'll say it again, "Vivid is a decent mod. He helps out a lot, is on regularly, and shows slight improvement of bedside manners." I wasn't complaining about vivid switching it to day, although I belive it did come across that way. It was more of the situation of the pve server mentality as a whole. As for vivid abusing his mod powers the only time I complain specifically about vivid is when I'm building and I get kicked with a message about having fags on his server.
                Yes its annoying to get kicked like that, but I didn't really care otherwise I would have SMed.

                I guess I'm just frustrated with how things turned out between foo1 and mercfox1.
                Sorry vivid if it seemed like it was targeted at you.

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                  December 18, 2010 11:39 AM

                  Sorry to lash out. You were basically one too many people giving me shit about something today.

                  While I agree that it's sad to see Merc1 deserted, that's what the populace wanted, for the most part. http://box.nevernet.com/~djr/mc/vote.jpg . Personally, I think we should shut Merc1 down and give out the map to whoever wants it at this point. It's basically a museum. I think foo1 should go full PvE, and the rest should stay as-is.

                  Way I see it, at present PvP only works if you do a 'no holds barred' server like morfus', or have highly controlled PvP events (CTF is a good example) with willing parties on all sides. I think the latter is a decent fit for foo1 but basically, the tools aren't there to do it without just relying on everybody being on board and playing by the rules. As your circuit room showed, one misunderstanding = a lot of hurt otherwise.

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                    December 18, 2010 11:48 AM

                    Id go for a pve foo1 full reset when inventory is fixed.

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                      December 18, 2010 12:10 PM

                      I'd strongly doubt that this will happen. It'd do more to split the community than anything -- some of our most loyal players have put a hell of a lot of time putting minecart tracks in for all the various cities, for instance.

                      PvE with no reset seems more likely to me.

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                        December 18, 2010 3:35 PM

                        How about an inventory reset?

                        I've been kind of wondering why people have been putting so much time into building on foo1. The way I see it, MercFox1 is the building server that will never be reset.

                        Of course there might be a patch that totally changes things and forces everything to reset.

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                          December 18, 2010 3:37 PM

                          what does it matter? It's not like we can reset chests

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                            December 18, 2010 3:38 PM

                            furthermore, even if we could I'd be against it. It would hurt all the people that had been playing legitimately the most, and I don't think that's cool.

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                              December 18, 2010 4:00 PM

                              Yeah, true. Maybe could give them a kit to get started.

                              The real problem is we're playing for different reasons.

                              Some people have big plans on things to build, so they need a lot of supplies. They don't want a reset of any kind.

                              Other people want the new challenge of tools breaking, and whatever else changes. Having massive supplies from the alpha days doesn't help the 'challenge'. Yeah we can just die and start from scratch somewhere, maybe I'll do that.

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                                December 18, 2010 4:23 PM

                                anyone who wants this can come to me, I'll teleport them into the middle of nowhere

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                                December 19, 2010 9:14 AM

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                                  December 19, 2010 9:49 AM

                                  Yeah we can just die and start from scratch somewhere, maybe I'll do that.

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                        December 18, 2010 3:39 PM

                        and yet no one cared about leaving it behind on merc. If you left foo in place for those people and put in a new server with feature X, everyone would end up on the new one

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                          December 18, 2010 3:42 PM

                          surely you can see that this isn't a black/white thing. The more times we reset, the more we alienate the loyal players (unless it's agreed, up-front, that there will be resets every month or something). Eventually people will go 'you know what, fuck it, I can't be arsed designing and debugging my 348th train station'.

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                            December 18, 2010 3:57 PM

                            well sure. I still think doing it once was too much. It just grates that this reluctance to reset didn't come until after it had already been done, ghost-towning what had been a cool place, especially now that the new resembles the old in so many ways (large constructions, duped stuff). At least there are mobs :-/

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                              December 18, 2010 4:16 PM

                              Personally, my preference at the time was to turn mobs on on Merc1, and do a reset come beta. But at the time, Beta seemed like a far-away dream, and there were too many voices that outvoted me.

                              Honestly, foo1 is a ghost-town at the moment too. Not as much as Merc1, mind, but still very quiet.

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                            December 18, 2010 4:01 PM

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                              December 18, 2010 4:07 PM

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                                December 18, 2010 4:23 PM

                                in retrospect, mercfag with PvE/towny might have been nice. I'd have been in favor of a creeper vs terrain nerf, but w/e.

                                Still hate mobs, but complete lack of people is worse. Particularly when there are people who won't log in because no one is on. If all those people did, there'd be people on it. Whatever.

                                Just sour grapes on my part. I'd said back then I was done once damage happened because I wasn't interested in mobs or playing on an empty server. Somehow keeping me around seems to have been given undue consideration, thus Merc remained as carebear land, so I felt obligated to stick around a while. This was probably a disservice to everyone else and I should have just been done without saying anything instead of being at least partially to blame for a situation where everyone else got reset, and I "had" to hang around in a graveyard for a couple weeks more than I'd planned so as not to look ungrateful. Sucked all around. mea culpa

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                              December 18, 2010 4:12 PM

                              Look at the rules for this server, and try to log in. Maybe you can't because it's full, with 20/20 players (was full when I checked).

                              http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1014&t=94090

                              No Rules, No Mods, No Kits, No Ops, No Cheating, just ... SURVIVAL! Animals, Monsters , PVP, Fire, Lava, Water. Everything is enabled. The only thing protected on this server is the spawn chunk, and the only command you have is /home, which takes you back there. It's up to you to decide where to live or die. Griefing is just part of the gameplay, so if you live near spawn you'd better be fortified, booby trapped, or hidden! If you live further out, be prepared for a long trip past roving murderers and night-time hordes of the undead. It's a rough world out there. Just what will you do to survive?

                              It's a fun server, if you like PVP! Always have to watch your back, etc. One problem is the world is too big, and 20 players isn't enough.

                              For some reason some people build bases almost within sight of spawn, then complain when they get "griefed". There is no griefing on this server (hackers don't count).

                              PVP will change a lot once duping and the repair bug is fixed. Virtually every server is tainted by duping, with way too many diamonds and so on.

                              Towny had potential, but it seems like updates to it have really slowed down. Who knows what will happen once official mod support is in, too.

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                              December 18, 2010 4:28 PM

                              Having all the playtypes on one world just leads to drama because of misunderstandings, however.

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                    December 18, 2010 11:49 AM

                    Wasn't trying to give you shit.
                    Just was trying to make a point how people kept pointing to morfus server for pvp so I pointed at shadowdanes for pve

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                    December 18, 2010 3:33 PM

                    As your circuit room showed, one misunderstanding = a lot of hurt otherwise.

                    I'm not sure how much ramasule raged after that, but it didn't bother me too much. I'd spent an hour or two standing around helping him push buttons to get things working, and it was quite a neat and complex thing, but foo was able to restore it, right? So it's not like a one time creation was destroyed forever.

                    Amusingly, I think North Korea got way more angry when we destroyed their base that they built right next to us (within reach of the Towny border).

                    I don't know.

                    I do agree that PVP needs to be 'no rules' or have strict rules, I just wanted to talk about that vault incident and how it might have been over-exaggerated.

                    Also, check your PMs.

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              December 18, 2010 10:14 AM

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              December 18, 2010 10:31 AM

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                December 18, 2010 10:35 AM

                OH IT'S ON LIKE DONKEY KONG

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                December 18, 2010 10:41 AM

                Your town is not flagged pvp.

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                  December 18, 2010 10:55 AM

                  Like that even works. afaik it's still broken.

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                    December 18, 2010 11:17 AM

                    Yes the damage thing is broken but I am not about to attack you if your town isnt flagged pvp
                    I do have standards you know, I am civilized.

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                      December 18, 2010 11:20 AM

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                        December 18, 2010 11:47 AM

                        oh no no no, your going to do this
                        /town pvp on
                        /town protect buildonly

                        and then your going to log in

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                          December 18, 2010 3:48 PM

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                            December 18, 2010 3:51 PM

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                              December 18, 2010 4:03 PM

                              easy there tiger.

                              No we cannot just get together and fight, thats boring. I prefer to sneak up on the player when they are working in there city or mining and get them. That way you have to be on the lookout.

                              Build only does not allow me to destroy blocks nor would i ever blow up your thing intentionally.
                              Build only allows you to press buttons and switches so you may enter my castle to get me and likewise for yours (if you ahve such a thing).


                              And why are you going all crazy man. There are plenty of pvp servers out there which if i want to pvp I play on. If i felt like building I went on mercfox but if we are using foo1 for build I will use that now.

                              And lastly just so you know I can destroy anything you have wether you have protection on or not. Likewise you can do to me.

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      December 18, 2010 8:24 AM

      One minute late

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        December 18, 2010 8:25 AM

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        December 18, 2010 8:55 AM

        lol now that Eric is getting the tags and days right we're slamming him on punctuality?

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          December 18, 2010 9:31 AM

          he means someone else posted a minecraft thread before him

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        December 18, 2010 9:52 AM

        What you missed is me posting the 10:00 the weekend morning thread
        and then eric wining about it and getting the mods to remove it.

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          December 18, 2010 10:05 AM

          more like, you set your alarm early and tried to steal his thread, suspiciously on a multi-day chatty... ;)

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            December 18, 2010 10:09 AM

            This is day 9 of a 21 day shift at work in a camp 8 hours from home. I am unaware of what actual weekday it is.

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          December 18, 2010 10:16 AM

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          December 18, 2010 8:39 PM

          hahahahhahaha! I did miss that

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      December 18, 2010 8:41 AM

      Hmm ARock82 appears to be destroying Stargates on my server... anyone know who this is?? That username doesn't match anyone on the shack.

      2010-12-18 11:29:49 [INFO] ARock82 [/98.219.193.115:49287] logged in with entity id 4259
      
      2010-12-18 11:29:49 Player count: 1
      2010-12-18 11:29:54 [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
      2010-12-18 11:30:18 1, 0
      2010-12-18 11:30:18 1, 0
      2010-12-18 11:30:40 [INFO] Destroying stargate at Portal [id=SignPost@74037f19, name=Wonderland]
      2010-12-18 11:37:29 [INFO] ARock82 lost connection: Timed out

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        December 18, 2010 9:42 AM

        It doesn't seem impossible to accidentally break the sign on the stargate instead of right clicking it.

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      December 18, 2010 11:10 AM

      Wang station is now operational. Just need to make it look pretty.

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      December 18, 2010 11:28 AM

      Shadowdane server winter menz: The Snow Lodge and the huge snow biome are now open for business, conveniently accessible for all your winter colonization and exploration needs!

      http://shadowdane.shackspace.com/Minecraft/ShackDC-Gmap/index.html?x=4348&y=102&z=544&zoom=7

      Take the stargate to the Snow Lodge (right click on the sign at the stargate until it has your desired destination, then right click on the button and enter the gate) and check it out.

      Think of the Snow Lodge as an additional spawn point: it's safe and protected, it's public and free to use (take whatever you need), and it offers easy access to lots of nearby terrain destinations:
      - To the south is a massive pine forest that hopefully no one burns down :(
      - To the east is some great hilly and mountainous terrain, and a lavafall too!
      - To the north are some flat ice lakes and another large pine forest
      - To the west is a lot of terrain perfect for someone looking for a flat area to build upon

      This biome is so large it could encompass all of the area around spawn that is currently settled. Plenty of space for everyone to have their own winter wonderland!

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      December 18, 2010 4:27 PM

      re: What happened yesterday on MercFox1.

      Sorry to anyone I annoyed, destroyed, accused, looked at, or farted on.

      I'd been waiting for a response to a PM to post this, but decided it's time.

      I plead temporary insanity. I'm serious, I don't know what happened. I'd gotten up at 2 or 3 AM after tossing and turning for a few hours, so was cranky. Then something sent me into a fit of rage and I decided to "clean up" some stuff that annoyed me. :(

      Sorry for doing bad things to your buildings and wasting your time: Kelbane, ninjase, Arctic Fox, foo, and I'm sure a few I missed.

      It won't happen again.

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        December 18, 2010 4:29 PM

        What exactly did you do?

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        December 18, 2010 4:32 PM

        The mods are considering your case Nixx. I've got to say that you burned through a lot of our good graces in one fell swoop. Decision pending... you can expect at least a week ban though. Personally, I'm just not sure whether I can trust you, yet.

        If it's any consolation, posting your mea culpa here has helped some.

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          December 18, 2010 5:39 PM

          What did Nixx2004 do?

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            December 18, 2010 5:44 PM

            shack search his name, read thread http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=24794916

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              December 19, 2010 4:16 AM

              I shack searched his name, didn't seem to come up with anything helpful.

              I assume he built a bunch of duped signs on MercFox1?

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                December 19, 2010 5:22 AM

                This isn't even the half of it. I make a policy not to discuss why we ban people, but if Nixx wants to tell him yourself then he's welcome.

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                  December 19, 2010 5:24 AM

                  Tell YOU HIMself, fuck me, time for coffee

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                  December 19, 2010 5:34 AM

                  I don't think it'd help.

                  The people I wronged know what I did, they can accept my apology or not.

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                December 19, 2010 11:41 AM

                i said thread not post

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            December 18, 2010 8:32 PM

            He went full retard...
            You never go full retard.

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              December 18, 2010 10:04 PM

              Full retard is me going around placing bedrock everywhere and placing unholy lava that burns through everything.

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        December 19, 2010 12:59 AM

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          December 19, 2010 7:43 AM

          I usually am.

          Don't hate me now. :(

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      December 18, 2010 11:50 PM

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      December 18, 2010 11:51 PM

      I have to solution for the Northern Junction on foo1 built.

      Through modern miniaturization technology, I was able to shrink my 4-way switch and fit all of it except for the outgoing boosters and some routing tracks into the Northern Junction. In the process, the only thing that was lost was the auto delay on the button, however, if someone wants to build a 30 torch vertical delay circuit just off the SW of the junction (just to the left of where the track from PI comes in), the latch will fit under the roof but above the tracks.

      This switch is different than my other switches, but the instructions should be clear. Find your destination on both signs and set the controls accordingly, then press the button (and possibly keep pressing the button until you are launched).

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      December 19, 2010 6:13 AM

      17K sold in 24 hours...

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        December 19, 2010 6:15 AM

        ahahaha everyone's getting in on that lifetime free update train before it ends. Should be a nice little Christmas bonus for Notch and co.

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        December 19, 2010 3:04 PM

        He's made about 5+ million dollars since the Halloween update. Amazing! It's every indie developers dream come true. Good for him!

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      December 19, 2010 6:48 AM

      I think I might have just crashed Mercox somehow?? I logged in so I could make my pilgrimage to Hyrule finally. Seems to have gone down.

      Oh wait... now I can't log int at all.

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        December 19, 2010 6:54 AM

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          December 19, 2010 6:59 AM

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            December 19, 2010 7:02 AM

            Yeah, I guess DDoS service is blocking people for some reason... hmmmm... that sucks. This is the only weekend of the year without my wife and kids.... and I can't play minecraft!! I MUST have done something horribly wrong in one of my lives... because this karma is a BITCH sometimes.

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      December 19, 2010 7:18 AM

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      December 19, 2010 9:46 AM

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      December 19, 2010 10:24 AM

      This is the best currency mod I've seen, although I think the stone ones could be left out.

      http://i52.tinypic.com/28aqrk9.jpg

      http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1599104#p1599104

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        December 19, 2010 10:46 AM

        There's no need for currency in Minecraft atm. This mod is pointless.

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          December 19, 2010 10:49 AM

          This mod is pointless.

          You shouldn't talk about yourself like that! ;)

          Yeah, at the moment maybe currency is pointless, but it gives an idea of future potential.

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      December 19, 2010 11:39 AM

      I think he's done with his Ludum Dare 19 thing: http://mojang.com/notch/ld19/

      48 game competition.

      He's been streaming: http://mojang.com/live/

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      December 19, 2010 12:01 PM

      http://twitter.com/notch/statuses/16581434982535168
      I gave up on my Ludum Dare entry. I need to rest for the beta release tomorrow. Also, I miss ez.

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        December 19, 2010 1:08 PM

        Oh, that sucks. It's stilli pretty damn cool what he came up with in that time.

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      December 19, 2010 4:35 PM

      I finally pulled the trigger. Question, can mobs see me through my glass windows? I built huge glass walls and a glass roof. =)

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      December 20, 2010 1:35 AM

      He's up and working. A few updates: http://twitter.com/notch

      It's Beta Day today! There's a pile of work that needs to be done, but nothing too bad.

      The ETA for beta is "sometime today", and there won't be any major noticeable changes. But there's a game update coming

      Included in the release today is leaf decay, working server-side inventory, throwable eggs, and less system hungry servers.

      Oh, and there's visible armor in the update today as well.

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